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   DJ...arresting people because they call for a demonstration in NL gets a lot of people-and even government supporting parties-very angry. 
[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/ and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague ;
According to the climate activist group, talks with the municipality, the police as well as the OM are said to have led to nothing to facilitate a peaceful demonstration. “We are fully entitled to demonstrate in a location and manner of our choice. We do this peacefully and are committed to the safety of our demonstrators and road users. We hear from the media that the police are planning to refer people to the Malieveld, although our demonstration is not taking place there. We are disappointed that the police are trying to frustrate our demonstration in such a cynical way,” Kervers said in the group’s press release.

Angered by the arrests, leaders of about 40 civil society organizations are taking part in a show of support. The event will take place on an overpass over the A12 highway. Among others, Greenpeace, FNV, Urgenda, the Aids Fund, Cordaid, the COC, the Cyclists' Federation, the Humanist Verbond, Milieudefensie and the Stichting Vluchteling have announced their participation in this protest
DJ, so now also trade unions, refugee organizations, gay-right groups, etc. join the protests...What I do make of it there are several thousend protesters at (at least) three places in The Hague...
[url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn ; 
The authorities fear there won’t be any shelter available for thousands of asylum seekers within a few weeks. Undocumented migrants will then roam the country and cause problems, especially in the large cities, the authorities warned. If nothing changes, the COA expects a shortage of 8,000 reception places by April.

Over the past months, the Netherlands hastily set up thousands of shelter spots, so people didn’t have to sleep outside in the winter. But most of them are temporary. Nieuwsuur recently reported that the contracts for 35 locations would expire by June 1, leaving the country 38,000 reception places short.
The Ministry thinks more people will seek safety and shelter in the Netherlands this year than expected. According to NRC’s sources, the new forecasts show 45,000 asylum seekers coming to the Netherlands this year, 10,000 more than the Ministry’s estimate at the end of last year.
DJ, Very likely already thousends of refugees live with friends/family or in all kind of (homelees) shelters...So in a bad scenario tens of thousends of people may end up without shelter in NL this summer...NL "government" is supporting all kinds of crazy wars-however refugees-as a result of those wars-are not welcomed...
I think in most of "the west" trust in politics/government is gone..."Opposition parties" (UK-labour, NL-"left"-in Germany social democrats/greens are supposed to be the government) often offer no realistic alternatives...
Strikes to compensate for high inflation do see anti-strike laws made up by governments out of public support...The social/healthcare system is getting very overstretched...Police is out of policestaff to deal with a lot of issues...
Neo-liberalism is pushing NL-Europe towards collapse...(and then there are also pandemics and wars...)

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Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Offline Points: 80762	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 28 2023 at 5:17am
	DJ...arresting people because they call for a demonstration in NL gets a lot of people-and even government supporting parties-very angry. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/01/hundreds-of-climate-activists-gather-in-the-hague-block-the-a12/ and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/hundreds-extinction-rebellion-activists-block-a12-hague ; According to the climate activist group, talks with the municipality, the police as well as the OM are said to have led to nothing to facilitate a peaceful demonstration. “We are fully entitled to demonstrate in a location and manner of our choice. We do this peacefully and are committed to the safety of our demonstrators and road users. We hear from the media that the police are planning to refer people to the Malieveld, although our demonstration is not taking place there. We are disappointed that the police are trying to frustrate our demonstration in such a cynical way,” Kervers said in the group’s press release. Angered by the arrests, leaders of about 40 civil society organizations are taking part in a show of support. The event will take place on an overpass over the A12 highway. Among others, Greenpeace, FNV, Urgenda, the Aids Fund, Cordaid, the COC, the Cyclists' Federation, the Humanist Verbond, Milieudefensie and the Stichting Vluchteling have announced their participation in this protest DJ, so now also trade unions, refugee organizations, gay-right groups, etc. join the protests...What I do make of it there are several thousend protesters at (at least) three places in The Hague... [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/27/netherlands-heading-socially-disruptive-asylum-crisis-involved-authorities-warn ; The authorities fear there won’t be any shelter available for thousands of asylum seekers within a few weeks. Undocumented migrants will then roam the country and cause problems, especially in the large cities, the authorities warned. If nothing changes, the COA expects a shortage of 8,000 reception places by April. Over the past months, the Netherlands hastily set up thousands of shelter spots, so people didn’t have to sleep outside in the winter. But most of them are temporary. Nieuwsuur recently reported that the contracts for 35 locations would expire by June 1, leaving the country 38,000 reception places short. The Ministry thinks more people will seek safety and shelter in the Netherlands this year than expected. According to NRC’s sources, the new forecasts show 45,000 asylum seekers coming to the Netherlands this year, 10,000 more than the Ministry’s estimate at the end of last year. DJ, Very likely already thousends of refugees live with friends/family or in all kind of (homelees) shelters...So in a bad scenario tens of thousends of people may end up without shelter in NL this summer...NL "government" is supporting all kinds of crazy wars-however refugees-as a result of those wars-are not welcomed... I think in most of "the west" trust in politics/government is gone..."Opposition parties" (UK-labour, NL-"left"-in Germany social democrats/greens are supposed to be the government) often offer no realistic alternatives... Strikes to compensate for high inflation do see anti-strike laws made up by governments out of public support...The social/healthcare system is getting very overstretched...Police is out of policestaff to deal with a lot of issues... Neo-liberalism is pushing NL-Europe towards collapse...(and then there are also pandemics and wars...)
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Offline Points: 80762	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 15 2023 at 2:50am
	[url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/15/dutch-coalition-likely-lose-9-senate-seats-election-many-voters-undecided[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/15/dutch-coalition-likely-lose-9-senate-seats-election-many-voters-undecided ; The Rutte IV coalition of VVD, D66, CDA, and ChristenUnie will lose nine seats in the Senate after today’s Provincial Council elections, according to EenVandaag and Ipsos’ final poll before the polling stations opened on Wednesday. The poll also found that a remarkable number of voters are still undecided. Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s VVD could lose its throne as the biggest party in the Eerste Kamer to both the right-wing farmers’ party BBB or the left-wing combination of PvdA/GroenLinks. According to the latest poll, the VVD could get 12 seats in the Eerste Kamer, the Dutch Senate. BBB stands at 13 projected seats and PvdA/GroenLinks at 14. If this final poll comes close to the election result, the coalition will be even further away from a majority in the Eerste Kamer than after the 2019 election. Then the VVD, D66, CDA, and ChristenUnie got a joint 35 seats, already too few for a majority in the 75-seat Senate. According to the latest poll, the coalition will only have 23 seats after this election. VVD stays stable at 12 seats. D66 drops from seven seats to 4, CDA drops from 9 to 5, and ChristenUnie from 4 to 2. With 23 seats, the coalition would need 15 opposition seats’ support to pass anything through the Senate. It could go right-wing, working to gain support from BBB (13) and JA21 (3). Or it could look for help on the left from GroenLinks/PvdA (14) and SP (5). According to the poll, today’s election will significantly shake up the Senate on the right wing. FvD will lose 10 of the 12 seats it won in 2019, leaving the far-right party with 2 seats. The PVV (8), BBB(13), and JA21 (3) all stand to make significant gains. The picture on the left-wing side of the opposition is remarkably stable, EenVandaag said. PvdA/GroenLinks will get 14 seats, the same number the two parties got separately in 2019, at 8 for GroenLinks and 6 for PvdA. SP will gain one seat, going to 5, and animal party PvdD will go from 3 to 4. The poll also showed that a remarkable number of voters were still undecided the day before the election. 43 percent of people who said they would vote did not yet know which party they would vote for. A day before the parliamentary election in 2021, 32 percent of voters were still dithering. The many undecided voters could make the election results differ widely from the polls. DJ, Due to neo-liberal rule for 12 years under rutte 40% of NL households live in poverty, 1-in-6 NL citizens "stand outside society"....Income inequality grew, we have a major housing crisis, strikes all over the public sector... Maybe more important; trust in politics, governments in NL-like in many other countries-is at an all time low...DJ-My view-at present "politics" lost contact with most of the public they claim to represent...All over the world people want safety, a better future for their children, access to education, healthcare, housing, transport...An out of control neo-liberal/neo-conservative politics-only in contact with a rich elite-would even privatize "your mother"....While increasing their incomes "politics" is dumping all kinds of public responsabilities to "the market" for profit... At the end (public, basic) services-once done at a price just to cover reasonable costs- become unaffordable for most...Price pushed up to maximize share holder value, pay for advertising, insane saleries for the CEO.... Why SARS-1 in 2003 was "stopped", SARS-2/CoViD-19 could become a pandemic simply is related to how politics disfunction...Once governments realized the need to keep its population "healthy and happy" now "politics is for sale".... The tide is turning...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein