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That is actually a good idea, Technophobe! I'm going to look into it, thanks :)
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My tens unit came with a charger and rechargable battery
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They told me mine wouldn't. :/ Just that a battery will be included,  no charger and not rechargeable. I'd have to get my own if I wanted it recharged. :( Is your battery also 9volt, Penham?
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Yes, it's a 9 volt
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You can possibly order it later from the company, because they sell the plastic patch thingys you need (not sure of the official name) you have to replenish them though because they lose their stickiness.
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Ah yeah, I'm doing it all through Kaiser, so I hope they have the rechargeable ones. I have some patches from my trial test, and should get one more pack with the unit, but I think she said they last 1 month or something and then I'd need more.
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Hachi- Google Battery Depot. They sell bulk batteries (144) for a very reasonable price. I have sciatica too and use a 9volt tens meter. I used to go to the Chiropractor twice a month! Then I bought a Saunders lumbar traction device and I haven't been back since! It's truly been a life saver! It's saved me thousands of dollars!
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arirish, I have been curious about the lumbar traction device. So they work well?
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Thanks for the info, Arirish :) I'll look into that and google the lumbar thing.
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My wife and I both have Lumbar problems! She has had her back broken twice so she has a lot of scare build up and it didn't help her at all. It has been a true miracle for me! I haven't been adjusted in several years! I feel the slightest twinge in my lower back and I have my wife strap me in. Ten minutes later I'm good for another month! So what I'm saying is it may help and it may not! I let anyone I know with back problems try it, several people I know have bought they're own. My wifes doc wrote an RX for it and our insurance paid for most of it! Wish it had helped her as much as it did me!
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Me and my wife use an inversion table we bought last year. Works wonders (we both get sciatica) and it's fast. A few minutes and the pain has gone. Picked it up cheap on Craigslist.
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I've got a slant board, which I think is a cheaper version of an inversion table. I don't have back problems but I still love it. I should use it more than I do. I think it just takes the pressure off everything and you get a reverse gravity effect that feels lovely.
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I'm going to have to check all those out for my back!

Today I did get a few OTC meds, 5 bottles of guaifenesin cough syrup, 2 bottles of Dayquill, 1 bottle of night time cough & cold generic, and one bottle of generic Benadryl.
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Cats & mouse traps! Pesky Rodents NOT welcome here!
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You're buying cats, Newbie? I have two cat trouble makers that basically hunt each other lol They're mischievous, but I love them haha
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Hachi - try four that take it in turns to pick on each other at all hours of the day and night Angry
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lol one of my cats slaps doorknobs, randomly and the other sits at my open door and cries at me.Cry
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It's like having kids - but stinkier. Litter boxes make me miss diapers Dead


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Bananas sticking to my dehydrater sheets.. help.
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What kind of dehydrator coyote?
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Hi..excalibur.
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Hi again hoosier mom.. doing kale chips today.
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I still haven't got to set up my tent, it's rainy and cold. Thinking about opening it up in the house just to see if everything is there, lol.
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I'm adopting a couple more cats (all spayed, vaccinated etc) to keep the old house and my barns more mouse free. I've got 3 here now - going to move the girl into my house (haven't seen mice in here 'yet' but this time of year they move indoors from fields so I'm putting out a bunch of traps where they come in) and the 2 boys I have will stay in main barn, another 1-2 will stay in other barn (they are all connected with a heated part) and I'd like to put one into old house next door, at least for a few weeks.
The mice are getting into the grain in barn etc - wrecking bags of feed - and the 2 boys I have there now, seem to be a bit 'lazy' on the catching/killing end of things...Oh you mean I need to chase that?!?! But it's fast! lol
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Originally posted by coyote coyote wrote:

Bananas sticking to my dehydrater sheets.. help.


spray them with pam first
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Hachi - try four that take it in turns to pick on each other at all hours of the day and night Angry


lmao - JD - why I haven't had a cat in house till now... if you have 1 they pester you (at least when young) if you have multiples they pester each other... mine have all their tiff's out in barn - I don't have to listen to 'em!
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Thanks Newbie. .
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Coyote- I dip my banana chips in pineapple juice! It doesn't stop them from sticking but it keeps them from turning brown and gives them a unique flavor!
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Thanks Arrish..Will have to try that.
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Persuaded the wife to buy me a small (camping) wood-gas stove.  I will have to wait until Christmas to try it out though Tongue (unless we have an emergency before then).

We have a wood burning kitchen stove, that in winter power-outs will provide heat and stove-top and oven cooking.  The wood-gas stove is, say for a power cut in the middle of the day, so we can heat up some water for coffee etc.  This stove uses twigs and small bits of wood, and I hope that it will save on precious fire wood by not having to light the main stove unless we have to.  [I saw and split the wood by hand, so fire wood is precious!]
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EdwinSm,- I wish I could afford a wood cook stove! I have to settle for a Dutch oven! My wood splitter moved out and got his own place last year so I had to break down and buy a hydraulic one. Using a maul I can split a rick of wood a day but I can't move the next day and it takes me a month to get over it!
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EdwinSm, I have one of those camping stoves that I bought for emergencies and have never used it yet. I bought a $300 gas grill for about $50 during an end of year clearance a couple of years ago and I finally asked someone to put it together for me this summer and that thing is awesome! So easy to cook on, it has two sections to cook food on, then it has a side burner for pans to cook with.
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I have two wood stoves, one is a Rayburn and the other is a Chippie. I was given a great tip for running a wood stove by a lady who has used one for over 40 years and that is to add wood little and often. Don't go loading it up with as much wood as you can because it causes a spike in the oven temperature. She only used twigs and sticks she had collected around the place and her wood stove was slightly larger than mine and she did all their cooking on it.

I'm not sure if anyone outside Australia and NZ have chippies, but they are a small narrow woodstove with a hot water jacket. They are only a foot wide and normal height and have one hot plate on the top but no oven. They are thrown away as rubbish here. Mine cost $100 from a scrap metal dealer (they are very heavy, enamelled cast iron). Very useful as they are very efficient at heating water as the hot water jacket goes around 3 sides of the firebox. A very small amount of wood will heat alot of water and cook at the same time. 

My Rayburn was also second hand as they cost $12.000 new! Mine was $2600. It has 2 ovens and 2 hot plates. It is the best purchase we've ever made.
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When I was young I had two jobs on the farm. One was splitting what we called biscuit wood. Pieces of oak about the size of a broom handle and 10-12 inches long. My Grand parents had a Majestic wood cook stove and my other job was to feed it biscuit wood a little at a time and watch the thermometer trying to keep the temp steady. On the farm everyone works! Even the youngest! Some of the best things in life came out of that stove!
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Hi everyone. It has been a long time since I have posted. Additionally since I have not posted much in a long time I was unable to log in with my old username (which was something along the lines of Dr. Who).

Anyway, I have not forgotten you. I have a button on my bookmarks bar and I visit several times a week - more frequently recently. I have kept up on what is going on here and I hope you all do well with whatever is to come.

So to answer your question on this thread...

Yes I have stepped up my prepping. Yesterday I took out my list and updated it. Did an inventory of what I have then determined what I still need. Next I split the list into what I would buy if I went shopping every two weeks for the next six months. That was just to determine that it would fit into my six month budget. Then I re-wrote the list so that it was ordered by what store each item will come from. I went to WalMart yesterday and got everything from the list that I would get from that store. Today I do the second part of the list. Part three should be done soon. I should have six months worth of preps. It's not perfect but I did not want to let that stop me from doing something. If we need to SIP the kids and I can do that with little problems. Guess we will just have to home school. The hardest part will be my wife's job as they may expect her to go to work and we are dependent on her income.

I learned that I had let my prepping go. I also learned that I did still have at least half of the total.

The hardest part was making sure that I had the funds to do it all at once like this. To do that I withdrew a lump sum from my emergency account. Then put it into envelopes - one for each month. The envelopes represent the amount I normally spend on groceries each month. As long as I could buy food I would normally buy with the money I normally use I knew the budget would work.

I even have money left over. And the way I see it I will either eat the food and spend the money with no need to worry about any sort of disaster or I will be glad I did it and the money is better sitting at home than in the bank. 

Lets pray that the US healthcare response gets better and this never becomes a large outbreak here.
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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

I'm rendering down 10 kilos of mutton fat today having butchered a sheep yesterday. Heaven knows what I will do with it all as we are not short on fat for cooking (with unlimited butter and plenty of lard). Maybe I'll make soap.  Any suggestions? I could bottle it but am not sure we'll ever get round to using it.

I'm using it to make a hard rosemary soap. I figure you can never have too much soap can you?
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Great choice to make soap!!! Wish I could make soap...would have to look it up on the net and then see if it worked. Have fun making it! Wish I was there to help you!
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Flumom, I used to make a lot of soap before I had kids. Now my kids are no longer preschoolers, I decided to make some again because I have unlimited amounts of milk and butter and have to use it up. 

So I went to the supermarket to buy a packet of caustic soda only to discover that you can't buy it anymore. Now you can only buy a branded drain cleaning product that is not pure caustic soda. The reason is that you could use the CS in some sort of terrorist activity. 

So I went to the city to a specialist craft shop and they were all lamenting that you couldn't buy CS and now you had to spend a fortune buying a premade soap base at great expense. 

Never one to be outdone, I tracked down a industrial chemicals supplier and they had some which I bought through my business but now I have a 25kg sack of the stuff. It's a lifetimes supply!

Soap is very easy to make. Basically it's any type of fat or oil, with caustic soda and water. It gets complicated when people start making fancy soap with a hundred ingredients. Any basic book from the library will tell you how to do it. 

The one I'm making is just made using lamb fat that I've rendered and clarified, water, caustic soda and rosemary from our garden. It will be a pure white, hard soap with medium sized bubbles.
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Have you bought your has-mat suites yet?
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I could use alittle help I live in california and all my kids and grand kids live in IND. Anyway every time they call I always ask them if there putting any rice and beans away just in case.
I alway tell them its a good time in history to have a months worth of anything that would make you leave the house. Well she called last nite and she trying to get months worth togather but she doesn't how much she needs to get for 5 people.Well I couldn't give her a stright answer.So could any one tell me how much rice and beans and caned veg. does she need to get for 5 people for a month.Thanks for any help you can give.
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I strongly suggest you give her a copy of the LDS Preparedness Manual


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or you can purchase a hard copy for $25 or so

a VERY good investment in preparedness

https://www.ldsavow.com/PrepManualGeneral.html


it is interspersed with Mormon teachings,but do not let this dissuade you from reading it

it is one of the best books out there on the subject of preparedness 


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I think it's a minimum of 3 cans per person per day, but can't remember for sure.

The answer should be in this forum:

http://www.ebolainfo.org/home-family-planning_forum464.html
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And here:

http://www.avianflutalk.com/emergency-prepping-list_forum379.html

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Or may even be earlier in this thread :)
I haven't read the thread from the beginning.... yet.
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