Off Topic Maybe Ebola

ahh crap

You would think the WHO would be on this right away.  If ebola, should be easy to trace, as outbreaks are followed closely.  I wish they are saying they are also checking for H5N1, but that might be too reactionary.  In any case, thank you so much Isu2001 for bringing us this story, I didn't see it this am in the usual outlets.  Please keep us up to date on all the developments.  It is concerning, as it doesn't match any typical "Western" common ailments: seizures and unconsciousness, mixed with vomiting and bleeding, with flu symptoms days prior to her plane ride.  Certainly sounds like an infectious agent. 

JN What is your take on this very curious???

After reading the article, I would agree that we need to be very careful in what we say and do.  However I would strongly recommend that we follow this case until competent medical authority has determined what has happened here.  From the sounds of the article I would doubt that it was Ebola.  However, it could be something that is indeed a problem. 

full article below:

A WOMAN is feared to have died from ebola after taking ill on a plane home from Africa yesterday.

Passengers and crew on the flight to Heathrow are understood to be panicking that they have contracted the contagious virus.

They helped the Briton when she was vomiting and bleeding. Some even shared their drinks with her.

Last night, tests were being run to confirm whether she had the haemorraghic fever.

The 38-year-old was on Virgin Atlantic flight VS602 from Johannesburg. It is understood she worked at an embassy in Lesotho.

She had visited a doctor before the flight complaining of flu symptoms and was told she could fly.

But during the trip, she suffered a fit that knocked her unconcious.

Cabin crew and passengers passed her drinks and did all they could to help. At around 3am, she started to vomit heavily and began bleeding.

When the Airbus A340-600, carrying 249 passengers and 18 crew, touched down at 7am she was rushed to nearby Hillingdon Hospital.

Hospital staff treated her as if she had ebola as her symptoms matched those of the virus. She died in hospital.

Cabin crew who came into contact with the woman have been told to monitor their health over the next week.

A hospital spokesman said: "A patient was brought to our accident and emergency department on May 19 after falling ill on a flight to Heathrow.

"As a precautionary measure, the patient was initially treated as if infectious. Tests are still ongoing to establish the nature of the illness."

A Virgin spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that a female passenger taken ill on flight VS602 subsequently died at Hillingdon Hospital.

"Virgin Atlantic would like to extend our sympathies to the family and friends of the passenger."

One cabin crew member said: "Those people who came into contact with the dead woman are terrified at what might have been caught."

The virus is transmitted by direct contact with infected body fluids. There is limited evidence of human-to-human airborne transmission.

Hemorrhagic Bird Flu looke just like Ebola to an average person.  It was reported as Ebola in the original Boxun reports out of China.

http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?FID=16&TID=1469&PN=1


Edited by JoeNeubarth - May 20 2006 at 9:45am

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_objectid=17105559%26method=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html

Here's another article on the woman with "Ebola".

20 May 2006
EBOLA FEARS AS BRIT DIES
Woman collapses on packed flight
By Stephen Moyes
A WOMAN is feared to have died from ebola after taking ill on a plane home from Africa yesterday.

Passengers and crew on the flight to Heathrow are understood to be panicking that they have contracted the contagious virus.

They helped the Briton when she was vomiting and bleeding. Some even shared their drinks with her.

Last night, tests were being run to confirm whether she had the haemorraghic fever.

The 38-year-old was on Virgin Atlantic flight VS602 from Johannesburg. It is understood she worked at an embassy in Lesotho.

She had visited a doctor before the flight complaining of flu symptoms and was told she could fly.

But during the trip, she suffered a fit that knocked her unconcious.


Cabin crew and passengers passed her drinks and did all they could to help. At around 3am, she started to vomit heavily and began bleeding.


When the Airbus A340-600, carrying 249 passengers and 18 crew, touched down at 7am she was rushed to nearby Hillingdon Hospital.


Hospital staff treated her as if she had ebola as her symptoms matched those of the virus. She died in hospital.


Cabin crew who came into contact with the woman have been told to monitor their health over the next week.


A hospital spokesman said: "A patient was brought to our accident and emergency department on May 19 after falling ill on a flight to Heathrow.


"As a precautionary measure, the patient was initially treated as if infectious. Tests are still ongoing to establish the nature of the illness."


A Virgin spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that a female passenger taken ill on flight VS602 subsequently died at Hillingdon Hospital.


"Virgin Atlantic would like to extend our sympathies to the family and friends of the passenger."


One cabin crew member said: "Those people who came into contact with the dead woman are terrified at what might have been caught."


The virus is transmitted by direct contact with infected body fluids. There is limited evidence of human-to-human airborne transmission.

Same writer, same story.  We need a second source with a bit more detail on actions taken.  CONFIRMATION.  This site has been blasted for some people going over the deep end and posting things in News site's that were not true.  WE need to be carefully and make sure that the facts are right!!!!

Ok here we are;
Saturday, 20 May 2006 10:31
BNN: British Nursing News Online · www.bnn-online.co.uk
WOMAN COULD HAVE DIED FROM THE DEADLY AND CONTAGIOUS EBOLA VIRUS
A woman is feared to have died from the deadly and contagious ebola virus after she arrived in London on a flight from Africa.
http://www.bnn-online.co.uk/index.asp#3608

Fem Vet it was supposedly a Virgina Atlanta flight.  Secondary post appears to be a rehash of the original story.  Would like something from the Times or BBC. 

Saying that it is Ebola is wrong and could be very misleading.

They have no way of knowing. All that is reportable is that she may have died from a hemorrhagic fever (and there are scores of them out there).

She also could have had an aneurysm that ruptured into her throat (unlikely) and did not die from a virus at all.

Since she was reported as ill with flu symptoms to begin with, I am disposed to fear Bird Flu.

And yes, I do believe it is now endemic to the entire continent of Africa.


Edited by JoeNeubarth - May 20 2006 at 10:05am

Re article on woman on plane with possible ebola:

ReadyMom wrote: full article below:   http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_objectid=17105559%26method=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html20 May 2006

    

ReadyMom, Sorry, I posted this without knowing that you had too, and I don't know how to get rid of it!
    

Edited by rutsuyasun - May 20 2006 at 10:10am

Major ... I just found another one ... in the Daily Mirror ... what do you want me to do? -k  You can PM me @ TK3Promotions@comcast.net, if you think that would be better.

Edited by ReadyMom - May 20 2006 at 10:23am

Sam ... see above! -k

Edited by ReadyMom - May 20 2006 at 10:30am

xx

Sam ... you are right ... same author! They look like linked tabloids, too - don't they? Sneaky little devil , he is! Well, we'll just have to watch and see what happens with this.  I poised the quarentine question earlier,as well. -k

oke Guys .. ... It's a date ... same time, same place? 

Survivor wrote: OK - I did a search on ebola in Johannesburg, ebola in South Africa...nothing about a flight (some interesting articles on procedures and outbreaks from 1996 and 2000) Also, checked BBC and nothing either. This could be a typical "attention-getting tabloid byline" or it might be that mainstream media has not reported on this because the case has not been confirmed. We should soon see if it is legitimate (once BBC or other mainstream media report) Sam

Google reveals that Stephen Moyes (The writer of the article) is an investigative reporter. He is listed as a finalist for reporter category for British Press awards. Could be that he is a flake, but not likely.

http://www.britishpressawards.com/finalists.html

Albert wrote: I wouldn't trust any news related to a URL coming from www.TinyUrl.com.

Albert, I didn't even know that tinyurl existed until you posted that.  I checked it out and it look legit as a means of just shortening a long URL into a tiny one.  It just links to the original URL as best I can tell.

Is there something that I do not understand?

Alright People just for clarification.  I found the story over on fluwiki and they have a long thread with many of the same concerns and questions as we have here. As far as the tinyurl.com thing I simply copied the url from the Daily Record website and pasted it into the shortening blank on tinyurl.com.  It generated a short url and I posted that.  There is no intent on my part to mislead anyone.  I am simply relaying the story.  If you notice the title of this thread it clearly indicates this is OFF TOPIC for bird flu and MAY BE Ebola.
Thats It.
Tim

I visit a lot of weather related hurricane sites and the mods there ask people to use TinyUrl rather than putting in extremly long urls to help prevent side scrolling.  I just have gotten into the habit when I post on a board.
Tim

When this calms down a bit, could someone from the U.K. give us a list of British newspapers and which are considered tabloid and which are reliable?

I have no idea what I'm looking at when British newspapers pop up in a search.