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Dark Hollow Falls, near Skyline Drive, Virginia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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JANUARY 6, 2010

Salazar to Toughen U.S. Drilling Rules

 

By STEPHEN POWER

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar is expected to announce Wednesday that his agency will require oil and natural-gas companies to clear more regulatory hurdles before they are allowed to drill on federal lands.

Mr. Salazar's action is likely to make it more difficult for the U.S. Bureau of Land Management to fast-track the permitting of oil and gas projects on federal land. BLM field staffers would be required to seek additional approvals from their supervisors and to undertake more visits to areas where energy companies are seeking access, according to people familiar with the matter.

 
 
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Natural Gas Stocks Dip Again
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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:33 AM
 
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...Nevertheless, we are not fully convinced about the sustainability of natural gas' current gains, as the specter of a continued glut in domestic gas supplies (storage levels remain 13.6% above their five-year average) still weighs and the inventories remain higher compared to averages for this time of year. This translates into limited upside for natural gas-weighted companies and related support plays.
 
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And add to that...  Tougher Drilling Regulations
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  • Delawareonline - Environmentalists want tougher gas drilling rules

    Dec 30, 2009 ... Environmentalists want tougher gas drilling rules ... Delaware River Basin Commission to adopt tougher regulations on natural gas drilling ...
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  • Environmentalists want tougher gas drilling rules | dailyrecord ...

    Dec 30, 2009 ... Basin Commission to adopt tougher regulations on natural gas drilling ... The groups say chemicals used to extract natural gas can leak ...
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  • Environmentalists Want Tougher Gas Drilling Rules - cbs3.com

    Dec 30, 2009 ... Three environmental groups want the Delaware River Basin Commission to adopt tougher regulations on natural gas drilling in the Delaware ...
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  • Environmentalists want tougher gas drilling rules - NewsFlash ...

    (AP) — LAMBERTVILLE, N.J. - Three environmental groups want the Delaware River Basin Commission to adopt tougher regulations on natural gas drilling in the ...
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  • oil and gas drilling regulations « Colorado Independent

    The two remaining GOP gubernatorial candidates won't even wait to see how new, environmentally tougher oil and gas drilling regulations work during an ...
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  • Natural Gas Drilling Debate Heats Up - ProPublica

    Jun 3, 2009 ... The institute says state regulations are sufficient to keep water supplies safe ... that thousands of jobs would be lost if tougher regulation was passed. ... In New Gas Wells, More Drilling Chemicals Remain Underground ...
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    Split Estate
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    In split estate situations, the surface rights and subsurface rights (such as the rights to
     
    develop minerals) for a piece of land

    are owned by different parties.
     
    In these situations, mineral rights are considered the dominant estate,
     
    meaning they take precedence over
     
    other rights associated with the property,
     
    including those associated with owning the surface.

    However, the mineral owner must show due regard
     
    for the interests of the surface estate owner
     
    and occupy only those portions of the surface
     
    that are reasonably necessary to develop the mineral estate.
     
    .
     
    .. manages the public lands, including the Federal mineral estate, to
     
    enhance the quality of life for present and future generations of
     
    Americans, under a mandate of multiple use as described in the Federal

    Land Policy and Management Act. The Mineral Leasing Act guides the
     
    land use planning, leasing, bonding, operations and reclamation
     
    associated with all development of
     
    Federal oil and natural gas resources.
     
     
     
     

    You May Not Own The Earth Beneath The Land You Own
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    Split Estate is a heart-wrenching story about the consequences and
     
    conflicts that can arise between
     
    land owners in the
     
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    and the companies that own the mineral rights below them.
     

    What happens when your land is not yours?
     
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    All the online Investor Boobies are hyping it....
     
     
    Stop Hyping Marcellus Shale Gas Reserves!
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    As recently as 2002 the United States Geological Survey in its
     
     
    Assessment of Undiscovered
     
    Oil and Gas Resources of the Appalachian Basin Province, calculated that the Marcellus Shale
     
    contained an estimated undiscovered resource of about 1.9 trillion cubic feet of gas. [1]
     
    That's a lot of gas but spread over the enormous geographic extent of the Marcellus it
     
    was not that much per acre.
     
     
     
    So all you wild eye gas grabbers...   Get a Clue....
     
     
    To make any profit from the effort, drillers would have to riddle the state with wells
     
    to get at the gas.    And drilling that many wells would increase the chance of messing
     
    with ground water all over the state.
     
     
    Is no one understanding that reality?
     
     
    People... we need to think ahead... for them.
     
     
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    22 Wells On One Foot Print.
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    VIDEO
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    drilling sites rarely look this tidy and usually have dirt roads ...  scroll down to see the  "perfect "Disney Like" drilling site.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Un-Naturalgas.org
     
     
     
     
    GAS DRILLING IN THE CATSKILLS
     
     
     
     
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    OK.... Combine the Drilling of Gas Wells
     
    all over the state... like chickenpocks
     
     
    with    seismic activity    ...     and hmmm 
     
     
           mixing water with oil...        ya think?
     
     
     
     
     
     
  • View Current Seismograms Recorded at LCSN Broadband Stations
    PAL, ACCN, BRNJ, BRNY, CPNY, FRNY, HCNY, LUPA, ODNJ, NCB, PRNY, PTN, UCCT, WCNY
  • LOZ - Lake Ozonia, New York (deactivated)
  • MVL - Millersville University, Pennsylvania
  • SDMD - Maryland Geologic Survey, Maryland
  • FOR - Fordham University, NYC
  • FMPA - Franklin & Marshall College, Pennsylvania
  • UCCT - University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT
  • HCNY - Howe Caverns, Cobleskill, NY
  • PRNY - Paleontological Research Institution, Ithaca, NY
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     Paleontological Research Institution, Ithaca, NY
     
     A helicorder is a device which records signals from a seismometer. The traditional helicorder records the seismic signal on a piece of paper ...
     
    Seismic Activity   ( Quakes )
     
     Taken at Ithaca
     
    December 25 2009...
     
     
     
    December 30th 2009
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lots of Lawsuits in PA...
     
     
    Too Bad...
     
     
     

    Data from station SSPA (Standing Stone, Pennsylvania, USA)

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    From Google-
     
     
     
  • Earthquakes and Gas Drilling | FWCANDO

    May 16, 2009 ... "Three human activities that commonly induce earthquake activity are: ... there were less than 10 gas wells in Tarrant County. ...
    www.fwcando.org/node/256 - Cached
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    Seismic Testing and Produced Wastewater Gathering System Fact Sheet

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    well locations; therefore, it is difficult to determine if allowing seismic operations on streets will increase gas drilling activity in the eastern portion ...
    www.flower-mound.com/.../seismic/Town%20of%20Flower%20Mound%20Seismic%20Testing%20and%20W...
  • Natural Gas Drilling May Be Cause Of Recent Texas Earthquakes

    Jun 13, 2009 ... A Geologist has testified that 'yes' indeed the Gas Well Drilling caused the Earthquakes!! And don't forget anout the Fault line here under ...
    www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/47961351.html - Cached
  • Completion/stimulation practices in Cotton Valley gas wells ...

    The potential for prolific gas production from expensive, deep wells in the Cotton ... Frantic land, 3-D seismic and drilling activity were fueled by some' outstanding ... Danger: 3 Debit Card Scams to Avoid · 6 Myths About Gas Mileage ...
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    Sep 13, 2006 ... Given that there are so many dang oil and gas wells (some 700000 in the U.S. ... But even with so many holes, the planet isn't in danger of ...
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  • Blog and photos of Marcellus Shale Gas Drilling near Hickory PA

    Three seismic testing trucks parked south of Hickory Pennsylvania · Mertz universal vibrators on Thumper Trucks ... Separation tanks and gas well along Route 519 south of Hickory .... Danger Danger NO SMOKING - NO OPEN FLAMES ... Marcellus Shale gas drilling activity between Hickory and Houston PA along Route 519 ...
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    gas exploration well spews roughly 50 tons of nitrogen oxides, 13 tons of carbon ... any drilling and seismic activities on existing leases in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas ... “Offshore drilling: A current danger.” Sun Sentinel 17 Jun. ...
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  • Barnett Shale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    ... parks) without disrupting other activities so they may obtain royalties on any ... In some of the wells there is a danger where the fracture will propagate too ... however, because technology like 3D Seismic allows operators to identify ... Several groups in communities in which gas wells have been located have ...
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    This article examines the dangers of shallow gas, precautions and .... Shallow gas drilling requires, more than any other drilling or well servicing activity, .... Booth, J. W., "Use of shallow gas seismic data in relief well planning," ...
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    Assembly Member
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    William Colton
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    Just recently, New Mexico released an executive order to place a moratorium on gas drilling because of reports of ground water contamination and reports have come out of Texas that areas that are engaged in gas drilling activities have experienced unusual seismic activity relative to the dormant seismic history.
     
     
     
    Comments Regarding the dSGEIS for Natural Gas Drilling in New York State’s Southern Tier
    Comments Prepared for the Bureau of Oil and Gas Regulation, NYSDEC Division of Mineral Resources, 625 Broadway, 3rd Floor, Albany, NY 12233-6500
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    But at least I know now that my cat gives us a heads up  : )    
     
     
    I'm trying to find out what the reading means..
     
     
    looks a lot wilder than this-
     
     
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    quakes in the last hour...
     
     
     
     
     
    11 quakes in the last 24 hrs?  Seems like a lot.
     
     
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    Originally posted by Mary008 Mary008 wrote:

     
     
    But at least I know now that my cat gives us a heads up  : )    
     
     
    I'm trying to find out what the reading means..
     
     
    looks a lot wilder than this-
     
     
     
    why do we keep running into this?
     
     

    The requested URL /exhibits_events/competit/bccy.html was not found on this server.

     
     
     
    I hit next... gives more info it's in white at the top.
     
     
     
     
     
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    interesting...
     
     
    Seismology is used to monitor testing of nuclear weapons and has increased our knowledge of the interior of the Earth.
    When international countries sign treaties banning the building and testing of nuclear weapons, they need some way of making sure that everyone is complying with the terms of the treaty.

    Seismology provides a means to monitor for nuclear explosions used to test and build weapons. This is because buried nuclear explosions create seismic waves which can be detected by seismographs.

     

    The challenge of modern day seismic monitoring is to be able to detect very small nuclear explosions detonated anywhere in the world. This makes the need for seismographs all over the world even more important.
     
     
     
    source

     
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    5 or 6 minor earthquakes near Albany NY Since
     
    October 20,
     
     
     
     
    Is anyone 20 miles SW of Albany NY ?
     
    mild quakes... Felt any tremors?
     
     
    What is 20 miles SW of Albany NY?
     
    At a consistent Depth of 4 to 6 miles?
     
     
    Any Gas Drilling Around there?
     
    MAP 3.1  2009/12/13 17:00:50 42.573N 74.108W 10.0   32 km (20 mi) SW  of Albany,NY
    map 2.6  2009/12/13 16:10:48 42.569N 74.108W 10.0   32 km (20 mi) SW  of Albany,NY
     
    map 2.9  2009/10/20 21:32:43 42.572N 74.104W  6.8   32 km (20 mi) SW  of Albany,NY
    map 2.0  2009/10/20 21:32:22 42.572N 74.104W 10.0   32 km (20 mi) SW  of Albany,NY
    map 1.8  2009/10/20 15:04:08 42.580N 74.139W 10.0   34 km (21 mi) SW  of Albany,NY

     
     map 1.8  2009/08/22 03:37:17 42.572N 74.092W 10.0   31 km (19 mi) SW  of Albany,NY
     
     
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    I remember feeling this one in CT... family felt it in VT also.
     
     
     2001

    Sunday April 21 01:39 AM EDT

    UPSTATE ROCKS!

    By CLEMENTE LISI

    The East Coast felt more like California yesterday after an earthquake (news - web sites) rattled dozens of cities and people awoke to the trembling of their homes.

     The 6:50 a.m. quake measured 5.1 on the Richter scale and is the third to shake the city in the past 14 months.

    Residents from Maine to Maryland reported being awakened by the rumble.

    The U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites) said the earthquake's epicenter was 15 miles southwest of Plattsburgh and lasted 30 seconds.

    "I could hear the frame of the house shaking," said Amanda Slattery, who lives in Westchester County. "I lay there long enough to realize it was an earthquake."

    Seismologists said it would take an earthquake measuring 6.0 or higher to cause any major structural damage. The 1989 San Francisco quake, for example, measured 7.1 on the Richter scale.

    Experts said that although earthquakes (news - web sites) are generally associated with California, there are many fault lines throughout New England.

    In the city, fire stations responded to several calls, but ended up only having to calm down quivering residents.

    New York State police said the temblor caused minor damage near the epicenter, including a stretch of Route 9N near the town of Au Sable, located 12 miles south of Plattsburgh.

    The Big Apple has recently been rattled by several earthquakes.

    In February 2001, a 2.9 earthquake shook residents of upstate New York with no reported injuries or damage. The epicenter of that quake was about 75 miles south of Buffalo.

    In October 2001, a 2.6 quake shook parts of Manhattan and Queens. No one was injured and little damage was reported.

    "We get a few small ones from time to time," said William Ott, a seismologist at the Weston Observatory at Boston College.

    "There are earthquakes all the time of a small nature, but the lower ones are not always felt."


    5.1 magnitude earthquake rattles Northeast, tremors felt from Maine to Maryland
    Sat Apr 20, 9:14 PM ET

    By MICHAEL VIRTANEN, Associated Press Writer

    AU SABLE FORKS, New York - An earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 5.1 shook the Northeast, collapsing roads in New York and rattling homes from Maine to Maryland. No injuries were immediately reported.

    The quake, centered 15 miles (24 kilometers) southwest of Plattsburgh, New York, left cracks in foundations and chimneys throughout the region Saturday, said Ray Thatcher, director of emergency services for Essex County.

    "It was shaking pretty good," said Jimmy Mussaw, who said he was standing in a Plattsburgh supermarket just before 7 a.m. Saturday when the walls and beams begin to shake. "Everybody was running from the back of the store to the front."

    State inspectors were sent to the Adirondack region to examine roads and bridges for structural damage. The state Department of Environmental Conservation inspected all the dams in the area and found no damage.

    In the nearby hamlet of Jay, the earthquake caused an explosion that disrupted a New York State Electric & Gas substation, sending sparks into the sky and cutting power to about 3,500 residents.

    William Ott, a seismologist at Weston Observatory at Boston College, said the quake had a magnitude of 5.1, and at least two aftershocks were reported.

    The quake broke off a 100-foot (30-meter) section from one road in Ausable, said David Fessette, highway construction supervisor for Clinton County. Parts of at least two other roads collapsed, and there were several water main breaks in the area.

    At Adirondack Mountain Spirits in Ausable, the earthquake rattled liquor bottles off the shelves.

    "It was just a mess," said owner Dayle Richards. "Even if they didn't break, they were covered with other debris."

    The largest earthquake recorded in New York, according to the USGS, was a 5.8 magnitude quake in 1944 that was centered in Massena, about 3 miles (5 kilometers) from the Canadian border.

    Tremors also were felt in Canada, as far east as Boston and Portland, Maine, and as far south as Baltimore.


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    Here is some interesting info on how to read the above  seismogram in red....
     
     
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    Mary I've always had crush on you. Just don't tell your husband. OK show it to him so he hugs you and appreciates what a special girl he has. :)

    Actually, your posts bugged me at first. They really bugged me!
    After a while I was drawn into them. Now I look forward to them.

    In the dating world that's called a push pull. Rejection and attraction!

    You know I'm teasing you or am I?

    That's it! This site is now a dating site!

    Your eyes in the moonlight are like the shimmering essence of eternal beauty themselves. OMG! I was dreaming. At least I didn't say those things I was dreaming about out-loud! Did I?


    And BTW: Penham, Now that I see your name is Penny I'm now admitting your next on my list. I hope my future Mistress doesn't get upset that I'm already trying to cheat on her.

    My life is such a conundrum...

    NOTE: You guys might have caught that I was half Joking. I don't know what they look like, their age or anything but what they post here. I just like their personalities and the way they handle themselves and deal with situations.
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    That quake looks like it did some damage.
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    Earthquake hits Californian coast
    A powerful offshore earthquake rattled communities in far northern California cutting power and forcing many to seek medical treatment.


    A 6.5-MAGNITUDE earthquake has struck off the coast of northern California, shaking buildings south of the Oregon border and leaving about 25,000 people without power.

    ''People are really shaken up. It was shaking pretty good, then it had a big jolt to it at the end,'' said Humboldt County Office of Emergency Services spokeswoman Jo Wattle.

    The quake was felt as far south as Capitola in central California, and as far north as central Oregon, said geophysicist Richard Buckmaster of the US Geological Survey.

    The coastal area is known for periodic earthquakes.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/quake-hits-california-20100110-m0mk.html?autostart=1
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    Hi Techi and Mary....awe...you guys would be cute together. ;-)
     
    JK
    I have lots of info on the latest 6.5 in Northern California.
    I'm kind of earthquake geek ever since my first trip there in 1999.
     
    Basically the area that this baby hit is on the southern end of the huge Cascadian Subduction Zone.  It is also not far from the northern most point of the San Andreas Fault that runs all along the western sea board/coast.
    Anyway I wanted to find out info on weather one going off has any relation to the other.
    And the answer is a whoppping YES.
     
    Here is the link to the study that was done by a Geological Team headed by a Dr. Chris Goldfinger.  His team discovered in 2006 or 2008 that 13 of the last 15 major quakes along the San Andreas were preceeded by an earthquake going off in the CSZ.  The 1906 quake was an exception and something to do with the fact that it was a South to North type of movement.  The more powerful deadly ones tend to move from North to South.
    Anyway they learned that the San Andreas followed anywhere between 25-45 years after a major Cascadian Quake.  I guess in geological times that's pretty close and 6.5 is considered a Major Quake.
    Anyway it was a fascinating read on who they uncovered the info and this type of realtionship between one fault affecting/turning on another has only been studied for the last 15 years! :-O
     
     
    TIP :-)
     
     
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    Here's a part of the article and another link. Tip

    Cascadia connection

    “Recent studies of past earthquake traces on both the northern San Andreas Fault and the southern Cascadia subduction zone indicate a correlation in time which may be evidence that quakes on the Cascadia subduction zone may have triggered most of the major quakes on the northern San Andreas during at least the past 3,000 years or so. The evidence also shows the rupture direction going from north to south in each of these time-correlated events. The 1906 San Francisco earthquake seems to have been a major exception to this correlation, however, as it was not preceded by a major Cascadia quake, and the rupture moved mostly from south to north.[7]

     

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    good links...   Tech, I had no idea my posts bugged you...    :)  
     
     
     
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    Originally posted by Mary008 Mary008 wrote:

    good links..Tech, I had no idea my posts bugged you...    :)


    That was only the first couple of months I was here. Much of it was the shrunken text, weird fonts and colors. I'm on a 1920x1200 resolution macbook pro laptop so my browser might convert the text differently then you see it. It shrinks it down to like 6 point text. It just took time to adapt. Some people can't handle the background stars and non standard colors of this site but if they were changed, people might complain and want them back. Don't take it personally.
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    Have you ever felt any earthquake rumbles out your way?   (yes, I find the text rather small.)   I would love a MAC... feeling a little on the fence...I have 2 laptops I am not using... one a dell W-98...can't remember the password... the other is very pretty...Garnet case....love the screen... dropped a big candle on it, not a scratch.... won't load driver... :(
     
    Your post made me smile... even if it was.... ment tounge in cheek.
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    Originally posted by Mary008 Mary008 wrote:

    Have you ever felt any earthquake rumbles out your way? (yes, I find the text rather small.) I would love a MAC... feeling a little on the fence...I have 2 laptops I am not using... one a dell W-98...can't remember the password... the other is very pretty...Garnet case....love the screen... dropped a big candle on it, not a scratch.... won't load driver... :(
    Your post made me smile... even if it was.... ment tounge in cheek.


    When you say you forgot the password you mean the user account or admin account to log into windows 98 not the BIOS password?

    If you have the knowledge you can get into just about any windows 98 machine.

    Do a google search for:
    windows 98 password retrieval

    On the laptop that won't load a driver. That might not have anything to do with the candle. It could simply be a driver failing to load that could easily be fixed. You need a computer savvy computer geek that you can trust. The Candle hitting the laptop "might" have damaged a sector on the hard drive. Many times you can run a Software type disk scan and repair tool to bypass that faulty sector making the system functional again. If the laptop is running windows 98 it's probably pretty old and slow. So an upgrade might be the best option.

    As for Earthquakes, Most people out here are not worried very much about them. We felt one 4-6 months ago but none of the current ones. We usually go years between noticing them. I watch the floods, tornado's and hurricanes on TV and think others have it worse.
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    .by Phmalo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanandaguaLakeVinyard680.JPG
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    TAKE BACK   Our Pretty State
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    There are plans for hundreds of UGLY Gas Wells
    all over New York State ... 
     
    Here is an album with some photographs of actual wells in the Barnett Shale in downtown Ft. Worth, TX.  As you can see
    wells are drilled in the hustle and bustle of the town
     
     
     
    gas%20well%20rig
     
     
     
    and everyone works and plays in and around the wells on daily basis.
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    ( the Land of Fools in a Visual Hell )
     
     
     5,500 wells currently pumping gas in the Barnett Shale play will ultimately generate on the order of $35 billion for their owners and through an economic ripple effect, $100 billion for the Texas economy.

    Well%20royalties%20donated%20to%20Jackson%20School
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    The double speak is amazing... carny talk...
     
     
     
    what they will do...

    Q: Will the gas companys disclose the dangerous chemicals they use?

    A: No .. gas companies will get leases from landowners and begin drilling.
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    what they say.....
     
    Q: Will the NYS DEC regulation regarding disclosure of all chemicals used during drilling cause issues with securing a potential gas lease?

    A: We do not expect that this requirement will have any significant influence on an energy companies desire to lease and commence drilling in NYS. The companies have already been working with and cooperating with the DEC while they were completing their study. 
     
     
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    Urgent Marcellus Shale Citizen Action Alert
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    Urge your family, friends and colleagues to take action too. Forward this email or post our
     
     
    Contact the Governor page on your preferred social networking site:
     

    We will keep you updated as our efforts progress.
    Email contact is best. The governor's email address is governor@chamber.state.ny.us
     
    Please email us a copy of what you sent at info@toxicstargeting.com so we can maintain a record of all contacts.

    Governor David A. Paterson
    State Capitol
    Albany, NY 12224
    518-474-8390 (o)
    518-474-1513 (Fax)

     
     
    Make the following points succinctly and emphatically:
     
     
    Governor Paterson must immediately withdraw the draft Supplemental GEIS because it is utterly inadequate to safeguard New York's environment and public health.

    The Department of Environmental Conservation's (DEC) own spill reports document existing regulations have failed to prevent or to require the clean up hundreds of natural gas and oil drilling problems involving
     fires, explosions, polluted drinking water wells, home evacuations and massive drilling wastewater releases.

    DEC must not issue new gas drilling permits until those regulatory concerns have been fully resolved. That is why the Supplemental GEIS review must be restarted.

    The draft SGEIS totally fails to propose a safe method of managing natural gas drilling wastewater and hydrofracking fluid. It simply leaves that task to localities.

    Improper management of natural gas drilling wastewater has already caused massive toxic pollution impacts. The SGEIS must solve this disposal problem before new natural gas drilling permits are issued.
    DEC is woefully understaffed to cope with existing natural gas drilling problems.
     
    Only 17 staff are available to regulate nearly 7,000 existing natural gas wells. New gas drilling permits must not be issued until the SGEIS solves this problem.
     
    The SGEIS fails to address critical issues associated with strict clean up liability, natural gas spill reporting, private right of legal action, insurance coverage and unfunded local government mandates. All those concerns must be addressed prior to the issuance of new gas drilling permits.
     
    Share your other concerns with Governor Paterson. Please be respectful, but remember Governor Paterson has a duty to protect New York's natural resources and public health. That is why the draft SGEIS must be withdrawn.
    Thank you for your assistance. Contact me if you have questions.
    Onward and upward,
    Walter Hang
     
     
     
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    Look What Happened to TEXAS
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    Talk About a MASSIVE Footprint.
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    Let's get Off Fossil Fuels!
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    Demand Renewable Energy
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    Nasty Wells and Chem Ponds Everywhere
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    You Will LOVE the NOISE
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    The Smell
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    You will want to escape it with the Lease money they gave you
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    New York State Is Up In Arms Over Dangers of     Hydraulic Fracturing
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    ExxonMobil can produce a spider web of 20 Gas Wells Off ONE FOOT PRINT.
     
     
     
    hmm  ... danger to groundwater/earthquakes taken into Consideration?
     
     
    Will Hydraulic Fracturing be Banned?
     
     
    Perhaps It Should Be
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    Exxon-XT0 merger off if hydraulic fracturing banned
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    UPDATE 1-Exxon-XTO merger draws draws scrutiny from U.S. Congress
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    * Exxon says there would still be competition after merger
    * Exxon-XT0 merger off if hydraulic fracturing banned
    (Adds comments from Rep. Markey, Exxon Mobil's chairman)
     
     
    By Tom Doggett
     
     
    WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - Several U.S. Democratic lawmakers on Wednesday
     
    expressed concern that the merger of Exxon Mobil and XTO Energy would reduce
     
    competition in the oil and gas industries and increase the use of a controversial drilling
     
    technique that could pollute water supplies.
     
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    Earthquake Induced Hydraulic Fracturing and Delayed Liquefaction in Heterogeneous Saturated Soils
     
     
    Phetmano P. Phannavong and Majid T. Manzari
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    The George Washington University
    801 22nd Street, NWWashington, DC 20052
     
    ABSTRACT

     
    Earthquake induced liquefaction in saturated granular soils is an important phenomenon which has been under intensive investigations in the past three decades. While the excess pore pressure buildup and subsequent liquefaction phenomena are well understood in clean sands and homogeneous saturated soils, the issue of excess pore water pressure migration and distribution in a heterogeneous soil is yet to be fully investigated. In this paper, the results of a series of shake table experiments on heterogeneous saturated soils subjected to strong base motions are presented.
     
     
     
    The George Washington University six-degree-of-freedom shake table was used to observe the response of saturated sand specimens with embedded seams of silt. Three different types of specimens were prepared and subjected to selected earthquake motions with varying durations. A homogeneous sand specimen with the same geometry was also built and tested for comparisonwith the results of the tests on heterogeneous specimens.

     
     
    The magnitude of the sinusoidal base motion was chosen high enough to induce liquefaction almost everywhere in the specimenexcept near its base. The experiments on heterogeneous specimens showed that during the shaking water pressure builds up underneath the seam of silt and creates an upward flow of high gradient, which causes the silt seam to crack.
     
     
    A delayed liquefaction in the upper soil mass isobserved to occur following the hydraulic fracturing of the silt seam. The experiments also show the significant role of the duration of shaking on the delayed liquefaction of upper layer.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Scientists have documented direct connections between earthquakes and both oil and gas extraction and waste-water injection.
     
     
    Moreover, several studies demonstrate that hydraulic fracturing induces microearthquakes and that the analysis of these microearthquakes can be useful in understanding fracture zones and reservoir production rates.[2]
     
     
    Recently, earthquakes have occurred more frequently in areas experiencing increased hydraulic fracturing.
     

    Concerns of fracking-impacted communities

    Oil and gas-field communities in Colorado, Texas and elsewhere are increasingly concerned about the role that hydraulic fracturing plays in induced seismicity in their communities. Concerns include:

    • immediate safety threats;
    • environmental and property damage;
    • how best to plan for oil and gas infrastructure (such as pipelines, processing plants, compressor stations and wells) in areas that may see increased seismic activity of a broad magnitude.

    Most oil and gas-field infrastructure do not have specific earthquake design standards. In most cases operators must take practicable steps to ensure interstate pipeline infrastructure (e.g. large transportation pipelines) can withstand anticipated hazards.

     
     
     
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    Gas drilling opponents rallied Today in Albany, New York
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    ALBANY -- Groups worried about a major expansion of natural gas drilling in New York are trying to keep the pressure on in Albany.

    ...Drilling of the deep Marcellus natural gas formation has boomed in some other eastern states. But environmental advocates are concerned about a drilling technique in which liquid is shot down the well hole to release the reserves. They say that process -- called fracking -- has poisoned wells and spilled toxic chemicals in other states.

    Fracking opponents will hold a rally Monday outside the Capitol.

     
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    Marcellus Shale Gas Drilling and Water
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    Area Flooding In New York State
     

    All this rain causes flooding all across the state.

    So guess what?   The chances of the cheapo little Chem Ponds they put all over the state
     
    overflowing from all of the FLOODING >>>    is VERY HIGH.
     
     
    THINK AHEAD NEW YORK
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    Rain causes flash flooding; seven families evacuated in Vestal; watch the river in real time

    Two towns declare states of emergency

    January 25, 2010, 6:31 am

     
     
     
    click on the little flooding photo to see VIDEO
     
     
     
     
     
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    New Yorkers Do Not Want To Be "looking down
     
    the barrel of a gun" with the drilling industry.
     
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    Event Type: Probable Blast
    Region: 37 km N of Lock Haven, PA*
    Date-Time: 1/20/2010 21:07:04.02 (UTC)
    Date-Time: 1/20/2010 16:07:04.02 (EST)
    Magnitude: 2.1 (Mc - Coda Duration)
    Latitude: 41.462 N
    Longitude: 77.383 W
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    Event Type: Probable Blast
    Region: 36 km N of Lock Haven, PA*
    Date-Time: 1/15/2010 20:11:15.01 (UTC)
    Date-Time: 1/15/2010 15:11:15.01 (EST)
    Magnitude: 2.2 (Mc - Coda Duration)
    Latitude: 41.463 N
    Longitude: 77.39 W
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    Event Type: Probable Blast
    Region: 38 km N of Lock Haven, PA*
    Date-Time: 1/14/2010 20:53:54.45 (UTC)
    Date-Time: 1/14/2010 15:53:54.45 (EST)
    Magnitude: 2.0 (Mc - Coda Duration)
    Latitude: 41.471 N
    Longitude: 77.382 W
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    Centre forms task force on gas drilling
    By SCOTT JOHNSON
     
     
    BELLEFONTE - Following the lead of neighboring counties, including Clinton and Lycoming, the Centre County commissioners have established a Natural Gas Task Force to handle the many issues emerging from drilling of the Marcellus Shale region.
     
     
    The task force will study and formulate recommendations leading to the responsible development of the Marcellus Shale area in Centre County and will focus on:
     
    n Economic development
    n Education
    n Environmental issues
    n Planning and zoning
    n Public police and legal issues.
     
     
    The new nine-member group will be formed by the commissioners. Elected state officials will be named ex-officio members and advisory positions will be held by those in the assessment, conservation, emergency management, GIS, 911, Penn State Cooperative Extension and planning offices.
     
     
     
    Sue Hannegan, assistant director in the Planning Office, said at Tuesday's commissioners' meeting her office hopes to make recommendations for the new committee in two or three weeks.
     
     
    Its formation is coming at a time when the development of natural gas wells is starting to hit the northern section of Centre County, with nine wells already drilled, 19 well pads sited, 25 permitted wells not yet drilled, four wells in production and nearly 100 wells being planned, Hannegan said.
     
     
    However, she noted the number of wells planned is likely a low estimate, with that number perhaps rising to around 130 with the recent acquisition of one drilling company by another that may drill up to 30 wells in the county.
     
     
    "It's a time-consuming task just to keep up with that," Hannegan said. "I think it's important we start now before we have to back-track and then correct it. I think it's good that we start in the early stages to develop responsible drilling discussions with the drilling companies, the commissioners and the task force.
    The drilling for natural gas started in the northern tier counties, and is working its way south and to the west.
     
     
    Hannegan called Lycoming County the "hub" of activity and knowledge about the natural gas industry in central Pennsylvania with its impact already being felt in a number of ways, including a dramatic increase in the number of homes purchased by those in the industry.
     
    "We can see the trucks driving through the Bald Eagle Valley coming from the east and the west, in between Lycoming County and Centre County so I think some of that will move our way as more of Centre County is developed," Hannegan said.
     
     
     
    The officials noted along with the increase in development comes an increase in responsibility to maintain the environment as much as possible.
    Matt Milliron, senior planner in the Planning Office, said most of the drillers are mindful of their environmental impact, but noted two firms have negatively impacted the aquifer while drilling wells in the Devonian shale region, which typically entails shallower drilling.
     
     
    However, he also noted county municipalities can also reap the benefits of the Marcellus Shale drilling by selling the companies water used in the fracing process, or leasing tracts of land to the firms.
     
     
     
    "The drilling's going to occur anyhow. You can't stop it. You might as well try to do what you can to control it," Milliron said. "At least in that lease agreement they can put on conditions. If you don't have any agreement, you can't control it."
     
     
     
    The commissioners lauded the task force's formation, although they disagreed on when it should have been formed. Chairman Jon Eich said he believes the group should have been formed last year. Instead, he said, the group members will be "looking down the barrel of a gun" with the drilling industry.
     
     
     
    "We know we're going to see an accelerated pace of activity," he said. "We want to work in a way that takes the best advantage of the economic activity... I would have liked to have the county ahead of the curve."
    However, Commissioner Steve Dershem responded he thinks the task force was formed just in time and noted the state Department of Environmental Protection will regulate the industry, not the county.
     
     
     
    "I believe in doing it right and bringing the right people aboard," he said. "Quite frankly, Centre County has not seen the activity that a lot of our neighboring counties have. It's growing toward us so I don't believe we are late."
    In other news at Tuesday's meeting, the commissioners entered into a lease with the First Presbyterian Church, 203 N. Spring St., to temporarily house the Bellefonte Senior Center, which was displaced in a fire at the Cadillac Building last month.
     
     
     
    The lease through Dec. 31 is for $950 a month, including all utilities, which is less than what the county had been paying for use of the Cadillac Building, Aging Department Director Jane Taylor said.
     
     
    Taylor said her department had looked at several buildings and the Presbyterian church fit the bill in terms of accessibility and available space.
    Dershem said he would like the center to move back to the Cadillac Building if it is repaired.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    New York Gas Drilling Is Fracking Out

    the Marcellus Shale has Western New York State in an uproar. Folks in New York City aren't happy either.

    arimoore The Marcellus Shale could meet all the United States' natural gas needs for more than two years, according to some geologists. With energy prices reaching record highs, at least nine companies are trying to lock up leases to drill in the Marcellus Shale, which lies as much as 9,000 feet beneath the earth's surface under New York, Pennsylvania and the southern Appalachian states. The drilling has generated quite a bit of opposition. The sign above is taken from the local saying, "Ithaca: Ten Square Miles Surrounded By Reality." As New York gears up for a massive expansion of gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale, state officials have made a potentially troubling discovery about the wastewater created by the process: It's radioactive. And they have yet to say how they'll deal with it.

    The information comes from New York's Department of Environmental Conservation, which analyzed 13 samples of wastewater brought thousands of feet to the surface from drilling and found that they contain levels of radium-226, a derivative of uranium, as high as 267 times the limit safe for discharge into the environment and thousands of times the limit safe for people to drink.

    (For more ProPublica stories on gas drilling in New York and Pennsylvania, go here.) 

    The findings, if backed up with more tests, have several implications: The energy industry would likely face stiffer regulations and expenses, and have more trouble finding treatment plants to accept its waste -- if any would at all. Companies would need to license their waste handlers and test their workers for radioactive exposure, and possibly ship waste across the country. And the state would have to sort out how its laws for radioactive waste might apply to drilling and how the waste could impact water supplies and the environment.

    A recent hearing in New York City on the environmental effects of drilling in the Marcellus Shale was a chaotic shout-fest. 

    What is less clear is how the wastewater may affect the health of New Yorkers, since the danger depends on how much radiation people are exposed to and how they are exposed to it. Radium is known to cause bone, liver and breast cancers, and the EPA publishes exposure guidelines for it, but there is still disagreement over exactly how dangerous low-level doses can be to workers who handle it, or to the public.

    The DEC has yet to address any of these questions. But New York's Health Department raised concerns about the amount of radioactive materials in the wastewater in a confidential letter to the DEC's oil and gas regulators in July.

    "Handling and disposal of this wastewater could be a public health concern," DOH officials said in the letter, which was obtained by ProPublica. "The issues raised are not trivial, but are also not insurmountable."

    The letter warned that the state may have difficulty disposing of the drilling waste, that thorough testing will be needed at water treatment plants, and that workers may need to be monitored for radiation as much as they might be at nuclear facilities.

    Health Department officials declined to comment on the letter. The DEC sent an e-mail response to questions about the radioactivity stating that "concentrations are generally not a problem for water discharges, or in solid waste streams" in New York state. But the agency did not directly address the radioactivity levels, which were disclosed in the appendices of the agency's environmental review of gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale, released Sept. 30.

    The review did not calculate how much radioactivity people may be exposed to, even though such calculations are routinely completed by scientists studying radiation exposure. Yet the review concluded that radiation levels were "very low" and that the wastewater "does not present a risk to workers." DEC officials declined to explain how they reached this conclusion.

    Although the review pointed to a possible need for radioactive licensing and disposal for certain materials, and it looked at other states with laws aimed at radioactive waste from drilling, the DEC said there is no precedent for examining how these radioactive materials might affect the environment when brought to the surface at the volumes and scale expected in New York. And it said that more study is needed before the DEC can lay out precise plans to deal with the waste.

    In comments to ProPublica, the DEC emphasized that the environmental review proposes testing all wastewater for radioactivity before it is allowed to leave the well site, and said that the volumes of brine water, which contain most of the radioactivity detected, would be far less than the volumes of fluid from hydraulic fracturing that are removed from the well.

    What scientists call naturally occurring radioactive materials -- known by the acronym NORM -- are common in oil and gas drilling waste, and especially in brine, the dirty water that has been soaking in the shale for centuries. Radium, a potent carcinogen, is among the most dangerous of these metals because it gives off radon gas, accumulates in plants and vegetables and takes 1,600 years to decay. Geologists say radioactivity levels can vary across the Marcellus, but the tests taken so far suggest the amount of radioactive material measured in New York is far higher than in many other places.

    The state took its 13 samples -- 11 of which significantly exceeded legal limits -- between October 2008 and April 2009. The DEC did not respond to questions about whether additional sampling has begun or whether the state would begin issuing drilling permits before the radioactivity issues are resolved. The DEC told ProPublica it did not know where the wastewater would be treated.

    "It's got to go somewhere," said Theodore Adams, a radiation remediation and water treatment consultant with 30 years of experience with radioactive waste. "It's not going to just go away."

    A Vague Threat

    Determining the health threat that radioactive material poses to workers and to the public is complicated. Measuring human exposure -- which is quantified in doses of millirems per year -- from radiation is notoriously difficult, in part because it depends on variables like whether objects interfere with radiation, or how sustained exposure is over long periods of time.

    Gas industry workers, for example, would almost certainly face an increased risk of cancer if they worked in a confined space where radon gas, a leading cause of lung cancer and a derivative of radium, can collect to dangerous levels. They would also be at risk if they somehow swallowed or breathed fumes from the radioactive wastewater, or handled the concentrated materials regularly for 20 years. But without these types of intensive or confined exposures, the materials may be less dangerous, making it difficult to discern effects on workers' health, experts say.

    People absorb radioactivity in their daily routines, complicating health assessments. Eighty percent of human radioactivity exposure comes from natural sources, according to the EPA. Everything from granite countertops to a pile of playground dirt can emit radioactivity that is higher than the EPA, which regulates based on a theory that zero exposure is best, may prefer.

    "You start with the world where you and I are getting an exposure from the sun, from the soil we walk on, from the brick in our house that on average is about 400 millirems a year -- which is dangerous," said Tom Lenhart, a former member of the federal-state Interagency Steering Committee on Radiation Standards. "The EPA would never allow that kind of exposure. So you are starting from a baseline of dangerous exposure, and this is what makes regulating it a nightmare."

    ProPublica In New York, extracting natural gas from the shale would involve deeper, more complicated wells than the state has previously licensed. Each of those wells, possibly numbering in the thousands, would suck up and later spit out as much as five million gallons of water in a process called horizontal hydraulic fracturing, placing an unprecedented burden on New York's watersheds, including those that feed New York City's reservoirs and farmland in Chemung, Tioga, Broome and Sullivan Counties. Roughly 200 tanker trucks would transport the water to each well. The EPA estimates that Americans are exposed to about 300 to 360 millirems per year, including routine artificial exposures like getting an X-ray or flying in an airplane. Each multiple of this "background level" denotes a proportional increase in the chance of getting cancer.

    The natural radioactivity of the Marcellus Shale has caused concern since the mid-1980s, when high levels of radon gas were found in the basements of homes in Marcellus, a town in upstate New York, where the shale reaches the surface. The question has long been, if the Marcellus can cause radioactive gas to seep into people's basements, how much radioactivity might be infused into the water left over from drilling? Add to that the question of how much human exposure can be expected from the radiation detected at some Marcellus drilling sites.

    In its environmental review, the state said it couldn't answer those questions because exposure depends on so many variables and because the units of measurement for human exposure and concentrations in water are incompatible. There is "no simple or universally accepted equivalence between these units," the DEC wrote in its environmental review.

    But Rick Kessy, operations manager for Fortuna Energy, a subsidiary of Canadian Talisman Energy and the largest gas producer in New York, says his company has assessed worker exposure at two of the company's well sites in Pennsylvania, where it found no serious risk.

    And a U.S. Department of Energy expert who specializes in such exposure conversions said an analysis in New York should be "very easy to do." ProPublica A drilling rig in the town of Barton, in Tioga County, N.Y.

    "If they know the concentrations and they know the exposure pathways it should be straightforward to calculate that," said Charley Yu, who runs the national computer dose modeling program at Argonne National Labs for the U.S. Department of Energy.

    In fact, New York's DEC used Yu's government modeling program, called RESRAD, in a 1999 study to establish radioactivity exposure risks for oilfield brine spread on roads, a common disposal practice. Its brine samples in that case contained far less radium than the Marcellus water. It laid out a simple scenario, assuming a person walked on the road for two hours a day over 20 years and a fixed quantity of brine was spread there. That study found no threat to human health.

    No such analysis was included in the state's recent supplemental environmental impact statement.

    Few Disposal Options

    All this would be of substantially less concern if New York were like most of the other states that produce some radioactive waste during natural gas drilling. In those states, the waste is re-injected underground. But in New York, injection disposal wells are uncommon, and those that do exist aren't licensed to receive radioactive waste or Marcellus Shale wastewater, according to the EPA. Instead, most drilling wastewater is treated by municipal or industrial water treatment plants and discharged back into public waterways.

    The radium-laden wastewater would almost certainly need to be carefully treated by plants capable of filtering out the radioactive substances. Kessy, the Fortuna manager, which operates five of the wells with spiked readings in New York, said the levels are higher than he has seen elsewhere. Treatment plants in Pennsylvania are accepting Fortuna wastewater with much lower levels of radioactivity from the company's wells there, Kessy said, but if plants can't take the higher concentrations, it could be crippling.

    "In the event that they were not able to comply due to high radioactivity, they would reject the water," Kessy said. "And if we did not have a viable option for it, our operations would just shut down. There is no other option."

    It is not clear which treatment plants, if any in New York, are capable of handling such material.

    DEC spokesman Yancey Roy said that "there are currently no facilities specifically designated for treating them." He added that the state depends on the drilling companies to make sure there is a legal treatment option for the water, and then reviews those plans.

    "The department has not received any permit submissions from the well operators that include details about treatment options for the brine containing NORM," he said. "So we do not know what treatment options are being considered or how effective NORM removal will be."

    ProPublica contacted several plant managers in central New York who said they could not take the waste or were not familiar with state regulations.

    "We are not set up to take radioactive substances," said Patricia Pastella, commissioner of the Onondaga County Department of Water Environment Protection, which operates the Metropolitan plant in Syracuse, N.Y. "It does present a problem with disposal."

    Filtering the water is just one of several problems. Plants that can filter out the radioactive materials are left with a concentrated sludge that has substantially higher radioactivity than the wastewater. Sludge can also collect inside the pipes at well sites, in waste pits and in holding tanks.

    Federal laws don't directly address naturally occurring radioactivity, and the oil and gas industry is exempt from federal laws dictating handling of toxic waste, leaving the burden on New York state. New York has laws governing radioactive materials, but the state's drilling plans don't specify when they would apply.

    Experts who reviewed the concentrations of radioactive metals found in New York's wastewater said the leftover sludge is likely to exceed the legal limits for hazardous waste and would need to be shipped to Idaho or Washington, to some of the only landfills in the country permitted to accept it.

    Fortuna's Kessy said that's an acceptable cost of doing business. "We'll be willing, of course, to fund the necessary disposal means," he said.

    The same may be required of some of the equipment used in drilling, which can eventually emit much higher levels of radiation than the water itself. Louisiana, for example, began regulating radioactive materials after it found radioactive build-up in pipes dumped in scrap yards and in the steel used to build schoolyard bleachers.

    But the levels in that state were just one-eighth of those measured so far in New York.

    "I don't believe anyone has taken a look, seriously, at what the unintended consequences are to dealing with these kinds of materials," said Theodore Adams, the radioactive waste disposal consultant. "It's a unique animal -- a unique disposal -- and depending on where it is located and who is receiving it, it could have an impact."

    (This article was produced by ProPublica, a non profit news producer. ProPublica's Sabrina Shankman contributed reporting to this article.)


     
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     Out Of Control and-
     
    The Cost Is Too High...
     
    as many as 18,000 such wells are presently envisioned for western New York alone.
     
     
     
    Why we need a moratorium on hydraulic fracture gas drilling
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    Brains Went Out The Window
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    There are too many wells... we are taLKING SWISS CHEES... LORRAINE SWISS.
     
    As in Lace...   a well every 5 miles.  See Map Below.
     
    Dozens of different drilling companies.  Fracking with chemicals they will not document!
     
     
    Why are we putting up with that?   How ignorant is that?
     
     
    The maps are all individual maps... showing only a particular area of wells on each... if
     
    you overlay  all the maps at once,
     
    you might feel ill at the massive number of Gas wells.
     
    The state has not adaquately addressed-
     
     
    Groundwater pollution
     
    Demanding Documentation of All Toxic chemicals used in Fracking
     
     
    Damage, wear and tear on local roads/ who pays the extra taxes?
     
     
    Danger of accidents in rain/winter (very mountainous area)
     
     
    Noise 24/7, Gas smell
     
     
    Lawsuits over neighbor disputes
     
     
    Release of radon gases as a result of drilling
     
     
    Radioactive water disposal.
     
     
    New York State has terrible flood problems year after year... need to address flooding of chem ponds, count on it.
     
     
    What does the state have planned to take care of chemicals getting into not only ground water... but the rivers... they are all over the place... some of the wells are
    being drilled in low lying areas, not a good idea.
     
     
    There is not enough being done to study the IMPACT of so many wells in a mountanous area that has severe flooding and naturally occuring radon pockets...EVERYWHERE.
     
     
    Think Ahead.
     
    A small study was done yrs back and it was decided that getting at the gas was a nightmare
     
     
    Nothing has changed people...
     
     
    Think
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    good read-
     
     
     
    "We are not set up to take radioactive substances," said Patricia Pastella, commissioner of the Onondaga County Department of Water Environment Protection, which operates the Metropolitan plant in Syracuse, N.Y. "It does present a problem with disposal."
     
     

    The same may be required of some of the equipment used in drilling, which can eventually emit much higher levels of radiation than the water itself. Louisiana, for example, began regulating radioactive materials after it found radioactive build-up in pipes dumped in scrap yards and in the steel used to build schoolyard bleachers.
    But the levels in that state were just one-eighth of those measured so far in New York.
     
     
     
    "I don't believe anyone has taken a look, seriously, at what the unintended consequences are to dealing with these kinds of materials," said Theodore Adams, the radioactive waste disposal consultant. "It's a unique animal -- a unique disposal -- and depending on where it is located and who is receiving it, it could have an impact."
     
     
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    remember... they only give a small area of the state for each map...
     
     
     
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    Gathering lines from six local wells gets you this pretty picture... and
     
    whith gas wells pocked all over the state every 5 miles ...Yuck!
     

    This was a state tourist wanted to visit for it's pretty countryside.

    No To Gas Wells All Over New York State.
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    The state has a problem with Radon... and we do not need more ways of

    releasing it every 5 miles...get a clue.

    And.... radioactive groundwater is not wanted either.
     

    Photo of what they want to place for every handful of wells.. dotted

    over our pretty countryside.  Think.... Think Twice.
     
     
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    On the up side... They could paint it red to look like a barn with a new age silo...
     
     
     
    Compressor Stations a side-effect of Marcellus Drilling
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marcellus_Shale_Gas_Drilling_Tower_1_crop.jpg. By Ruhrfisch
     File:Marcellus%20Shale%20Gas%20Drilling%20Tower%201%20crop.jpg
     
     
    Picture this all over our pretty rural countryside...
     
     
     EXXONMOBIL has decided that we will be using FOSSIL FUEL for decades to come...
     
     
    Exxon Mobil Will Buy XTO Energy
    $31 Billion Deal
     
     VIDEO  scroll down
     
     
    Why All The Earthquakes in New York State?
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    So... what exactly is going on around Albany besides FRAKING for GAS?
     
     
    check it out...
     
    Event Type: Earthquake
    Region: 34 km W of Albany, NY
    Date-Time: 2/18/2010 14:20:42.93 (UTC)
    Date-Time: 2/18/2010 09:20:42.93 (EST)
    Magnitude: 2.4 (Mc - Coda Duration)
    Latitude: 42.585 N
    Longitude: 74.154 W
    Depth: 18 km
     
     
     
     
     
     THIS WINTER
     
     
    year/mo/day
     
    10/02/18 14:20:42.9 42.585N 74.154W 18.0 2.40Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 11:30:12.2 42.584N 74.145W 20.0 1.50Mc 33 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 08:01:46.0 42.584N 74.166W 22.0 2.00Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 07:32:55.9 42.590N 74.154W 19.0 2.70Mc 33 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/15 09:08:04.1 42.584N 74.156W 20.0 1.70Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/15 08:46:25.7 42.589N 74.157W 20.0 2.20Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 11:36:58.9 42.584N 74.139W 19.0 1.90Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 10:41:35.3 42.582N 74.134W 19.0 1.60Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 05:52:47.7 42.584N 74.133W 18.0 1.50Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 05:47:19.0 42.584N 74.123W 17.0 1.30Mc 31 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 03:23:32.8 42.582N 74.158W 22.0 1.70Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 03:14:12.1 45.599N 74.584W 5.0 1.90Mc 19 km W of Lachutte, QUE
    10/02/14 02:51:20.3 42.580N 74.137W 18.0 1.70Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
     
     
     
    ...............................
     
     
     
     
     
    The Area Of The Earthquakes.....     (Not indicated as BLASTS )
     
     
    BERNE NY is west >>>  of Albany... abt. where red dot is.
     
     
    Epicenter Map
     
     
     
     
     
    Buffalo  Rochester   Syracuse  Utica Albany

    Oakta Creek shale

    Cardiff
    dark gray
    shale

    Pecksport shale (Mt. Marion Fm.)
    Solsville shale and sandstone
    Bridgewater shale Otsego
    Chittenango black shale Berne
    Cherry Valley limestone Stony Hollow
    shale & limestone
    (Seneca Mb.)
    (Onondaga Fm.)
    Union Springs shale and limestone
    (Onondaga Fm.) Union Springs shale and limestone
     
     
     
     LAST WINTER
     
     
    Small earthquakes shake Albany Hilltowns
     
    Posted: May 18, 2009 11:58 AM
    Updated: May 18, 2009 09:27 PM
    Map showing the location of the first quake Sunday night
     
     
     
    At least two earthquakes hit the Albany County Hilltowns of South and East Berne overnight Sunday.
    These latest tremors are just the latest in a string of quakes in that one area. The bigger of the two was in South Berne late Sunday night, near the intersection of Switzkill and Willsie Roads.
    It registered a 3.0 on the Richter scale, just enough to be felt, but not to really cause any damage.
    There was another one early Monday morning. This one, in East Berne, registered a 2.1.
    In the Berne area alone, there have been 15 small quakes since February, and that has scientists scratching their heads.
     
     
     
     
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    The Gas Companies Play Down The Horrors to Get People To SIGN THE PAPERS
     
     
     
     
    Gas Drilling Raises Fears in New York City
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    Kill the Drill VIDEO
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    Pond/Farm Ruined
     
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    And The Lovely Noise
     
     

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    Spill in Dimock, Pa.; Part 1
     
     
     
    I dont really understand the point of your videos. I didnt like what happened there as i was out of work for 2 weeks and it made a mess of things. No process is perfect and These problems are normal problems for gas drilling, The land will cleanse and heal itself in time. Really allot sooner than most people think
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    sorry you were out of work for two weeks; Mother Earth needs to have her guardians and spokespeople; having 30 plus dill pads within 5 miles in Dimock is a lot of disturbance of the earth and will take decades to heal, if at all ; People in Dimock still can't drink their precious water from their wells; it's been 11 months for some; why should we go through this; so, that you and others can have a job; it's not worth it for some of us;
     
     
     
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  • Congress Probes "Fracking," a Natural-Gas Drilling Technique; Next ...

    Feb 19, 2010 ... An upcoming congressional investigation of hydraulic fracturing — a controversial high-pressure drilling process that's significantly boos.
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    Sign Right Up For Contamination/Pollution Of Your Water        and Adrenal Tumors
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    The Company Settlement Gagged Her... They would settle as long as she
     
    STOPPED TELLING HER STORY
     
     
    The Chemicals Used in Fracking are a TRADE SECRET
     
     
    How Insane is that?
     
     
    STORY HERE-
     
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    The primary contact regarding questions or comments on

    Docket ID No. EPA-HQ-OW-2004-0032

    and the 2005 and 2006 annual reviews and the preliminary 2006 Plan is:

     
     
    Mr. Carey A. Johnston, P.E.
     
    U.S. EPA Engineering and Analysis Division (4303T)
     
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    December 2006

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Section 1421 of   SDWA  >>>   Safe Drinking Water Act
     
     
     
     tasks EPA with
     
    protecting USDWs >>> UNDERGROUND SOURCES OF DRINKING WATER (USDWs)
     
    (I thought I was lost in Acronym H*LL )
     
    for all current and future
     
    drinking water supplies across the country
     
    (see section 1.3 for the complete definition
     
    of a USDW). EPA's UIC Program is
     
    responsible for ensuring that fluids injected
     
    into the ground (for purposes including
     
    waste disposal, oil field brine disposal,
     
    enhanced recovery of oil and gas, mining,
     
    and emplacement of other fluids) do not endanger USDWs.
     
    Publication USEPA
     
    Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water
     
    (4606M) EPA816-R-04-003,
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    WHAT IS A UIC  ?
     
     
     
     
     
    The Underground Injection Control (UIC) Program regulates injection activities to prevent contamination of underground drinking water resources.
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    Corporate Greed >>>>     Harms US Citizens...   When Will It Stop?
     
     
     
     
    Halliburton's Interests ...
     
    A group of Alabama residents went to court in 1995 seeking to force regulation of the
     
    practice under the federal drinking water law. Halliburton filed a brief in the case, arguing
     
    that environmental        regulation of the practice
     
    "could have significant adverse effects" on its business.

    The company subsequently played a leading role in

     
    lobbying against efforts to regulate fracturing under federal drinking water laws.
     
     
     
     
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    And Money hungry ( understandable )  land owners... Ignorant of >>> ill effects of
     
    Hydraulic Fracturing on their
     
    sanity,    hearing,    sense of smell,    possible flaring,    spills,   groundwater and or
     
    well contamination, earthquakes, release of Radon gas, disposal of radiation waste..
     
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    sending a lobbyist to     plead their rather Greedy case.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Does this look Sane to you?
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    Is it NORMAL?     to see this kind of messing with the ground/ ground water/ radon pockets
     
    at every Well site area ?
     
     
    Do this all over the state and it looks like a severe disturbance of the natural lay of the land.
     
     
     
    NOT NORMAL
     
     
    All In Feb 2010
     
     
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    10/02/18 14:20:42.9 42.585N 74.154W 18.0 2.40Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 11:30:12.2 42.584N 74.145W 20.0 1.50Mc 33 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 08:01:46.0 42.584N 74.166W 22.0 2.00Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/18 07:32:55.9 42.590N 74.154W 19.0 2.70Mc 33 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/15 09:08:04.1 42.584N 74.156W 20.0 1.70Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/15 08:46:25.7 42.589N 74.157W 20.0 2.20Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 11:36:58.9 42.584N 74.139W 19.0 1.90Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 10:41:35.3 42.582N 74.134W 19.0 1.60Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 05:52:47.7 42.584N 74.133W 18.0 1.50Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 05:47:19.0 42.584N 74.123W 17.0 1.30Mc 31 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 03:23:32.8 42.582N 74.158W 22.0 1.70Mc 34 km W of Albany, NY
    10/02/14 03:14:12.1 45.599N 74.584W 5.0 1.90Mc 19 km W of Lachutte, QUE
    10/02/14 02:51:20.3 42.580N 74.137W 18.0 1.70Mc 32 km W of Albany, NY
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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     earthquake%20locations%20and%20magnitudes%20in%20canada
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Note all the Little Red Dots above ( in NY State) spilling onto the white area.

    http://www.ags.gov.ab.ca/co2_h2s/program_components.html

     
     

    Images%20of%20crustal%20cross%20sections%20%28After%20Keen%20&%20Potter%201995%29

    Images of crustal cross sections
    (After Keen & Potter 1995)
     
    Well over 100 offshore gas/oil wells drilled.
    see the top crustal structure? Nova Scotia Margin... the area where it says unknown?
     
    That's the area of drilling... unknown..  Blue arrow above points to the Scotia Shelf.
     
     
     
     
     

    Greed Goes To Washington...    To Lobby for gas wells.    (fools errand?)

     

    Should a state consider this...  riddling the land with gas wells might not be the best idea in an area where it is known that many quakes occur due to fault location?  We have extensive mapping of past and present quakes... right there on paper for anyone to see.   This is not the first time that the citizens of New York state had to deal with people's inability to accumulate the facts and look ahead.


    The last time we were confronted with lack of forethought was when the state government wanted to truck nuclear waste into rural areas of New York State.  The locals went wild.  "They need to come here and see the terrain that  they think they can truck that dangerous waste over."  "Hmmm we didn't take that into consideration," they said.  Idea Scrapped.

     

    One More Time....


    What do we need to go through...before NY State Government realizes... pull out the charts ... New York is earthquake central.


    *...connected to natural gas pipelines, known to often fill buildings with gas during an earthquake disaster, potentially causing explosions and fires adding greatly to such a disaster. 


    Add that to erupting Radon gas pockets below ground while drilling, spills, flares, havoc with roads, higher taxes to repair roads, contaminated ground water, removal of dangerous waste through the state... not to mention the stench, noise and sheer uglyness of it all.


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    Making Swiss Cheese In the North East... Wells Everywhere
     
     
     
     
    First they sweet talk the owners to sign leases .....    no one realizes
     
     
    THE NUMBER OF WELLS  in their area.
     
     
    Check it out...
     
     
     
    Before/After Drilling
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          UGLY   .... Coming To You...
     
     
     
    What Oil & Gas Drilling Looks Like from the Air, Wyoming
     
     
     
     
     
    Fracing a Natural Gas Well
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Nabors 18 Blowout
     
     
    Have done quite a bit of work on the rigs for nabors, and I agree with Jjgraham100 nabors rigs are bad luck. Nomac is the better rigs in my opinion. Luckily they saved that rig with that diverter.
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    Much rather it flares than stink up the countryside with SO4. Man when they stink they really stink.
     
     
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    From Ithaca NY
    ..............................   Home Of Cornell University
     

    Residents of the tiny Town of Pulteney discovered this about a month ago. Pulteney overlooks the most western shore of Keuka Lake, a scenic area best known for its wineries and summer tourists. The last gas well there was drilled nearly a decade ago. Now

     
    Chesapeake Energy wants to convert one of those wells into a disposal well for wastewater from Marcellus Shale and other gas wells in New York and Pennsylvania.
     
    Chesapeake plans to inject up to 181,440 gallons a day into the well, though they haven't done any tests to see how well the rock formation will absorb wastewater.
     
     
    Transporting that many gallons of wastewater will take about 35 tanker trucks each day,
     
     
    which is a lot of traffic up and down the narrow, twisty country roads along the Keuka Lake Wine Trail.
     
     
     
    Trucks will dock at one of six concrete bays and pump their brine into one of the above-ground tanks. A series of pipelines will carry the wastewater to a filtration vessel before it is injected under high pressure (3,200 psi) into the disposal well.

    But wastewater won't be the only thing stored at the well site. Chesapeake will probably store corrosion inhibitors and biocides on site as well.

    Pulteney area residents don't like the idea of turning their bucolic town into a toxic waste dump. They are concerned that the extra traffic will damage their roads, leaving taxpayers to foot the repair bills.

     
     
    They're very concerned that the toxic chemicals and brine pumped into the disposal well, located less than a mile away from Keuka Lake, may contaminate groundwater and even the lake itself.

    They worry that a toxic waste dump in the heart of wine country will jeopardize the local wine and tourist industries, which bring millions of dollars into state and local coffers.

    On Feb. 7 some 400 people crowded into the Pulteney Fire Hall to voice their objections to the project.

     
    Rep. Eric Massa offered his support to residents, saying, “I will do anything in my power to stop it.” Massa has filed a formal protest with Chesapeake. The response: Chesapeake is “no longer actively pushing for resolution of our local permit request.”
     
     
    But they have not withdrawn that permit application.
     
     
     

    Massa vowed to lay down on the road in front of the waste-hauling trucks. "And we'll be lining up behind you," shouted a person in the crowd.

     
     
    Other speakers at the Pulteney forum included Cornell engineering professor Tony Ingraffea; Walter Hang, president of Toxics Targeting; Art Hunt, owner of Hunt Country Vineyards; SUNY Geneseo geology professor Richard Young; Steve Coffman of the Committee to Preserve the Finger Lakes; and Rachel Treichler, an attorney and environmental advocate.
     
     
    Ingraffea has been studying rock fracture mechanics for 30 years. He doesn’t ask “if” disposal wells are safe; as an engineer his concern is how to reduce the probability of accidents to an acceptable (and very low) level.
     
     
    "Engineers base their designs on what they are allowed to do or not allowed to do,"  Ingraffea said. And, he emphasized, one thing they are allowed to do is design underground injection wells for the disposal of wastewater produced by oil and gas development.
     
    Currently there are about 144,000 Class II injection wells operating in the U.S., most of them used for brine disposal. “There are no underground injection wells for frack fluid,” Ingraffea said. States using underground injection require that the brine be injected into the originating formation, or into formations that are similar to those from which it was extracted.
     
     
    "But," asked Ingraffea, "what about ethylene glycol? Biocides?" The regulations say nothing about injecting fracking chemicals into the disposal wells.
     
    With the Bergstresser well located less than a mile from Keuka Lake, Ingraffea said engineers need to know as much as possible about its structural integrity. Furthermore, because it is surrounded by another 17 existing wells within a five-mile radius, engineers must be certain there is no inter-connectivity among the wells.
     
    Engineers need to know what is going down the well, how much wastewater there will be, the structural capacity of the well, the geology (whether the formation will accept the wastewater) and how long the disposal well will be used. All of this information becomes part of the calculation that determines injection pressure and the requirements for on-site storage of brine.
     
     
    “And all of these have some failure potential,” Ingraffea said. For Walter Hang, the only way to fight the storage well is political. The first thing the town needs to do is, he said, is ask Chesapeake to rescind their proposal. The second thing is for the town to take back their status as lead agency.
     
    In December the New York Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) asked the town to let DEC act as lead agency for the State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR) of the project. Without consulting the rest of the town board, Pulteney Town Supervisor William Weber gave DEC the nod to take over.
     
    "You need to get that lead agency status back," said Hang. “You should be the ones to control this process." DEC, he said, is eager to find ways to get rid of drilling wastewater because, to get a drilling permit, companies must declare where their wastewater will go."

    [On Feb. 8 the Pulteney Town Planning Board voted unanimously to request lead agency status from the DEC.]

    And Pulteney residents should worry about more than just this single well. "An injection well here sets precedent for others in New York,” Hang said. “If this disposal well is successfully built, it will only be the first of many.'

    Currently there are only two Trenton-Black River wells in Tompkins County: a “temporarily abandoned” well in Newfield and the yet-to-be-drilled Cook well in Dryden. But once horizontal Marcellus drilling takes off, the question of what to do with the millions of gallons of wastewater will become more acute. And for gas companies, right now depleted Trenton-Black River wells look like a good option

     
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    Know... What you are Inviting Onto Your Land... And Into Your Life
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    Earth Island Journal / By Adam Federman

    To Drill or Not to Drill:
     
     
    Natural Gas Rush Forces Farmers to Choose Between Income and Land
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    Rural communities are feeling the heat of a troubled economy, especially farmers.
     
    Will natural gas drilling be their saving grace or an environmental nightmare?

     
     
    March 2, 2010
     
    ...seismic testing is everywhere. The irregularity of the terrain has forced gas companies to drop by helicopter what are known as "shot hole drills" over a large area to measure gas depth. Explosives are placed in the holes and the sound waves measured. Orange cables, connected to geophone receivers and energy source stations, line the roads.
     
     
    According to Stone, every day for two months helicopters circled her property.
     
    Article here-
     
     
     
     
     
     
    GAS WELLS ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS
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    DISCLOSURE of-     THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE PUMPED INTO THE GROUND!
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    Darvasa gas crater, in Turkmenistan
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     Burniing since 1971...
     
    Hoping  nothing collapses in GAS RICH New York State....
     
     
    In 1971, when Turkmenistan was a republic of the Soviet Union, the state energy company
     
    was drilling near Darwaza when they accidentally bored into an underground cavern filled with natural gas.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    "The Door to Hell"

     
     
     
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    Burniing since 1971...
     
    Flaming Crater, Darvaza Turkmenistan
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    This place in Uzbekistan is called by locals "The Door to Hell". It is situated near the small
     
    town of Darvaz. The story of this place lasts already for 35 years. Once the geologists
     
    were drilling for gas.. Then suddenly during the drilling they have found an underground
     
    cavern, it was so big that all the drilling site with all the equipment and camps got deep
     
    deep under the ground. None dared to go down there because the cavern was filled with
     
    gas. So they ignited it so that no poisonous gas could come out of the hole, and since
     
    then, it's burning, already for 35 years without any pause. Nobody knows how many tons
     
    of excellent gas has been burned for all those years but it just seems to be infinite there.
     
     

    http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=1830

     
     
     
     
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