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    Posted: September 16 2006 at 11:27pm
 
 
Nuclear Threats : MUSLIMS ORDERED TO LEAVE THE UNITED STATES, NEXT ATTACK IMMINENT
 
Posted by admin on 2006/9/16 10:51:28 ( )
...ACCORDING TO AL QAEDA COMMANDER

"We have a different plan for the next attack. You will see. Americans will hardly find out any Muslim names, after the next attack. Most of our brothers are living in Western countries, with Jewish and Christian names, with passports of Western countries. This time, someone with the name of Muhammad Atta will not attack inside America, it would be some David, Richard or Peter."--Abu Dawood

Exclusive to the Northeast Intelligence Network & CanadaFree Press.com

By Dr. Paul L. Williams & David Dastych

Urgent news from Abu Dawood, the newly appointed commander of the al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan:

* Final preparations have been made for the American Hiroshima, a major attack on the U. S.

* Muslims living in the United States should leave the country without further warning.

* The attack will be commandeered by Adnan el Shukrijumah (“Jaffer Tayyer” or “Jafer the Pilot”), a naturalized American citizen, who was raised in Brooklyn and educated in southern Florida.

* The al Qaeda operatives who will launch this attack are awaiting final orders. They remain in place in cities throughout the country. Many are masquerading as Christians and have adopted Christian names.

* Al Qaeda and the Taliban will also launch a major strike (known as the “Badar offensive” against the coalition forces in Afghanistan during the holy month of Ramadan.

* The American people will be treated to a final audio message from Osama bin Laden which will be aired within the next two weeks.

The announcements from Abu Dawood were obtained by Hamid Mir, the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Taliban leader Mullah Omar in the wake of 9/11. Mir earlier reports regarding the resurgence of the Taliban with support from Iran and an unofficial truce between President Pervez Musharraf and al Qaeda have been panned out by the press in recent months.

Mr. Mir interviewed Dawood on September 12 at the tomb of Sultan Mehmud Ghaznawi on the outskirts of Kabul. Dawood and the al Qaeda leaders who accompanied him were clean-shaven and dressed as Western reporters. The al Qaeda commandeer had contacted Mir by cell-phone to arrange the meeting. The contents of the encounter are as follows:

Q: How did you have my local mobile number?

A: We watched you on Geo TV walking in the mountains near Kabul with British troops. You were embedded with our enemies. We were sure that you are staying in one of the few hotels or guest houses in Kabul. We were looking for you in Serena and Intercontinental hotels, but then some Taliban friends informed us that they had your phone number and you might visit them in Zabul [an Afghani province]. We got your number from Commander [Muhsen] Khayber. [Khayber was responsible for a homicide bombing in Casablanca that killed 32 people]. Don’t worry about that. We will not make any harm to you. We just want to warn you that you better don’t take any rides in the tanks and humvis of the Western Forces; they are not safe for any journalist in Afghanistan.

Q: Thanks for your concern; can I know your name?

A: Yes my name is Abu Dawood, if you remember, we have already met in Kunar two years ago, but at that time I had a long beard, now I have a small one. You were there in the mountains, close to Asadaabad [a small village in the Kunar province of eastern Afghanistan] and you met some Al Qaeda fighters. I was among them.

Q: OK. I just want to say that I am a journalist, I have to speak to both sides of a conflict, for getting an objective view and that is why I was traveling with the British troops; now I am sitting with you and that is my real job. I have interviewed Osama bin Laden as well as Condoleezza Rice, General Pervez Musharraf and President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan. I hope you will appreciate my objective approach?

A: You have claimed to be objective, but you and your TV channel have always given much time to the propaganda of our enemies. Anyhow, it was our moral responsibility to warn you that you better try to avoid traveling with the British, American, Canadian, French, Spanish and Italian troops in Afghanistan, we will target all of them, we don’t want that people like you suffer by our attacks, it is not good for you, and at least you should not be killed with the enemies of Islam. I am sure, brother Khayber have informed you that the Taliban will launch a big operation against the Crusader Forces, in the holy month of Ramadan; don’t come to Afghanistan in Ramadan. You will see a lot of fadaee amalyat [“suicide bombings”] in coming days, Kabul will become a graveyard of NATO and ISAF.

Q: Yes Khayber told me about the “Badar operation” in Ramadan. I think you are an Afghani but you are not a Talib, are you a member of Al Qaeda?

A: You are right. But we are with the Taliban, just helping them, fighting under their command. Every Al Qaeda fighter can become a Talib, but every Talib cannot become Al Qaeda.

Q: So where is Sheikh Osama bin Laden?

A: I don’t know exactly, but he is still in command of Al Qaeda, and he is in contact with his Mujaheddin all over the world.

Q: Why there was no new video statement from him, in last two years?

A: Because the CIA can feed his fresh picture to the computers fitted on their Predator planes, and these planes can get him, like Nek Muhammad or Akbar Bugti. But he has released many audio messages this year. Listen to him carefully. Don’t underestimate his warnings. America is playing with the security of Muslims all over the world, now it is our turn again. Our brothers are ready to attack inside America. We will breach their security again. There is no timeframe for our attack inside America; we can do it any time.

Q: What do you mean by another attack in America?

A: Yes a bigger attack than September 11th 2001. Brother Adnan [el Shukrijumah] will lead that attack, Inshallah.

Q:Who is Adnan?

A: He is our old friend. The last time, I met him in early 2004, in Khost. He came to Khost from the North Waziristan. He met his leaders and friends in Khost. He is very well known in Al Qaeda. He is an American and a friend of Muhammad Atta, who led 9/11 attacks five years ago. We call him “Jaffer al Tayyar” [“Jafer the Pilot”]; he is very brave and intelligent. Bush is aware that brother Adnan has smuggled deadly materials inside America from the Mexican border. Bush is silent about him, because he doesn’t want to panic his people. Sheikh Osama bin Laden has completed his cycle of warnings. You know, he is man of his words, he is not a politician; he always does what he says. If he said it many times that Americans will see new attacks, they will definitely see new attacks. He is a real Mujahid. Americans will not win this war, which they have started against Muslims. Americans are the biggest supporters of the biggest terrorist in the world, which is Israel. You have witnessed the brutality of the Israelis in the recent 34-day war against Lebanese civilians. 9/11 was a revenge of Palestinian children, killed by the US-made weapons, supplied to Israel. The next attack on America would be a revenge of Lebanese children killed by US-made cluster bombs. Bush and Blair are the Crusaders, and Muslim leaders, like Musharraf and [Afghani President Hamid] Karzai are their collaborators, we will teach a lesson to all of them. We are also not happy with some religious parties in Pakistan and Egypt, they got votes in the name of Mujaheddin, and then, they collaborated with Musharraf and [Egyptian President] Hosni Mubarak. Now look at all of them, Musharraf and Karzai don’t trust each other, the CIA and ISI don’t trust each other, all the hypocrites and enemies of Mujaheddin are suspecting each other; this help to us is coming from Heavens. Allah is with us.

Q: But if you attack inside America again, then Muslims living in America will face lot of problems, why would you like to create new problems for your brothers and sisters?

A: Muslims should leave America. We cannot stop our attack just because of the American Muslims; they must realize that American forces are killing innocent Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq; we have the right to respond back, in the same manner, in the enemy’s homeland. The American Muslims are like a human shield for our enemy; they must leave New York and Washington.

Q: But your fighters are also using the American Muslims as their shield, if there are no Muslims in America, then there would be no Al Qaeda, may be the Americans would feel safer?

A: No, not at all. We have a different plan for the next attack. You will see. Americans will hardly find out any Muslim names, after the next attack. Most of our brothers are living in Western countries, with Jewish and Christian names, with passports of Western countries. This time, someone with the name of Muhammad Atta will not attack inside America, it would be some David, Richard or Peter.

Q: So you will not attack America, until Muslims are there?

A: I am not saying that, I am saying that Muslims must leave America, but we can attack America anytime. Our cycle of warnings has been completed, now we have fresh edicts from some prominent Muslim scholars to destroy our enemy, this is our defending of Jihad; the enemy has entered in our homes and we have the right to enter in their homes, they are killing us, we will kill them.

Note from Doug Hagmann, Director: After speaking with Dr. Williams today, there appeared to be a certain urgency in the information contained in the above information - an exchange between Hamid Mir and Abu Dawood. We thank Dr. Williams and Mr. Dastych for this article.
 
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I'm so not happy....If a nuclear bomb goes off in NY city how far is the fall out?
 
I live near a military base that protects the city...I don't believe it's large enough to go notice but when bad things happen by terrorist...The place come alive with helicopters fighter planes, sometime 10 at a time...Selth aircrafts are here you can here them but I'm way to slow to see them..and the very  large transport planes are here...You can hardly believe they can fly.
 
If I should see anything and believe me I'll know right away when something is wrong...(It deafening) I let you know...It probably will be to late by then...There in the air after a problem occurs.
 
You feel safer with all the military men and women here but at the same time it's a little unnerving to know they would be bomb first. 
 
I can't tell you how many Muslims are here running gas station.  There very nice...When 9/11 happened all they wanted were american flags so people wouldn't attack them....
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Nah.  Something isn't right about the above article.  The link is to HomlandSecurityUs but it looks a little tabloidish.  Why would the true Dept. of Homeland Defense have a newsletter?
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"Dr. Paul L. Williams, Ph.D., the award-winning author of "The Dunces of Doomsday," 

"David M. Dastych, 64. is a veteran international journalist, former intelligence operative (the Polish Intelligence and the CIA). He is presently a free-lance author and David's Media Agency owner, based in Warsaw, Poland."

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Adnan el Shukrijumah
Osama's 'American Hiroshima' field commander studied at Hamilton's McMaster University
 
Adnan el Shukrijumah
Photo: FBI
By Judi McLeod

Monday, May 1, 2006

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/cover050106.htm

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American Hiroshima: Part 2 of an Interview with Journalist Hamid Mir
War on Terror David Dastych

May 9, 2006

http://www.therant.us/guest/dastych/05092006.htm

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FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
What bin Laden's saying:
It's all-out war on civilians
Al-Qaida chief's message analyzed by journalist who knows him best


Posted: April 26, 2006
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49907

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Huh uh, no way, don't you dare, the new fall premier's are getting ready to start and I'm watching them!!

It's a hoax, not a threat.
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So when is the month of Ramen?
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"...Our cycle of warnings has been completed..."
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A more direct question is simply, what did Mohammad consider to be acceptable killing? We know from the Islamic texts (Koran, Hadith, Sira) that he had critics and satirical poets assassinated for their words against Islam (Sources: http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/Enemies/index.html, http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/free_speech.htm, http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/dead_poets.htm.)
 
The Koran is clear that (male) Muslims must emulate the example of the prophet Mohammad (33:21). Therefore Muslims are obligated to kill (non-Muslim) critics of Islam. If this is acceptable killing according to Islam, why should anyone take 5:32 seriously as a peaceful verse? How can this be a verse of peace when it permits Muslims to kill anyone simply for doing or saying something judged to be against Islam?

5:34: "Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

See Ibn Kathir's interpretation here: http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=13783

Those who surrender to Islam will not be killed nor face the other penalties. They must repent before they are overpowered. Keep in mind that Mohammad was, and encouraged his followers to be, ever wary of hypocrites - those who are merely pretending to repent or submit themselves to Allah. Note that whether or not the person must face the penalties listed in 5:33, including death, depends on whether or not the person surrenders to Islam.

The President of IRAN offered Islam to President Bush...
ISLAM was aslo offered to all of our soldiers in a fairly recent speech by an American born Islamist....
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Full Artcle here....

Post-Standard, Syracuse, N.Y.
Friday, August 06, 2004
By Marnie Eisenstadt

Lackawanna, near Buffalo, has the "Lackawanna Six," men of Yemeni descent accused of operating a terrorist sleeper cell.

Syracuse has Help the Needy, an Islamic charity accused of illegally funneling money to Iraq.

And now Albany has two mosque leaders arrested for scheming to buy a shoulder-fired missile.

Three Upstate New York communities with three different, high-profile federal cases that involved the arrests of Muslims.

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ASK tHE WHITE HOUSE
 
Pete, from Syracuse, NY writes:
Do you think there are terrorist sleeper cells in the United States? How do we prevent these cells growing, communicating, or activating? Best - Pete
 
 
"...As you may know, the President this week released our updated National Strategy for Combating Terrorism, which lays out how we are going to fight and win the War on Terror over the short and long-term. This includes finding and tracking terrorists and attacking their ability to enter and operate in the Homeland. The number one priority of the FBI is to help uncover emerging terrorist cells and plots, bringing terrorists and their supporters to justice before they can act...."
 
In Total here...
 
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I live near a  military base too.   And even if the threat were to the US it would be alive with planes over where I live now.  There are always  lots out there if there is any kind of threat.

Nothing.  I think its a hoax.

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http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/04/a_bombing_in_karachi.php

Just this week, Interpol has issued a "special notice" concerning Dawood Ibrahim, and "now recognizes Dawood as part of the worldwide terror syndicate of Osama bin Laden whose Al-Qaida is lead member of the 17-member World Jihad Council." Dawood’s operations have spanned Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman." Interpol states Dawood maintains "a posh colony in Karachi."
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1483035.cms

Interpol sends special notice against Dawood Ibrahim
Vishwa Mohan
[ 8 Apr, 2006 2311hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
 

NEW DELHI: India’s best-known underworld figure and Mumbai blasts mastermind Dawood Ibrahim has been placed in the same category as top Al-Qaida operatives with Interpol issuing a 'special notice'against him, which also discloses his various addresses, including one in a posh colony in Karachi.

The special notice, which is circulated to UN member nations, has details of Dawood’s 11 passports and 16 aliases.

Interpol now recognises Dawood as part of the worldwide terror syndicate of Osama bin Laden whose Al-Qaida is lead member of the 17-member World Jihad Council. Dawood’s operations have spanned Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman.

The notice, which has also been forwarded to the National Central Bureau (Interpol, New Delhi), discloses the don’s two Karachi addresses and hints at his 'possible'hideout at NU 37, 30th Street, Defence Housing Authority. The second one is mentioned as White House, near Saudi Mosque, Clifton Road.

With the notice confirming Pakistan as the base of Dawood’s operations, it will make it more difficult for Islamabad, and the terrorist’s ISI mentors, to host him.

Global terrorist Dawood Ibrahim has been aware that an Interpol notice against him was on its way and intelligence reports have indicated his growing restlessness as he hunts for safe houses in Pakistan.

The general secretariat of Interpol at Lyon, France, forwarded contents of the new notice to all 184-member countries on Thursday asking them to freeze the D-company CEO’s assets, place a travel ban and arms embargo as "Dawood is the subject of UN’s anti-terrorism sanctions."

Interpol vice-president and former CBI director U S Misra told TOI that the special notice would create pressure on Pakistan, which was not only an active member but had also signed up to the UN Security Council’s resolutions to fight against terrorism.

Misra said: "It is a kind of notice issued against terrorists associated with Al-Qaida organisation. It is, therefore, different from existing Red Corner Notice (RCN) issued against any absconding criminal."

Going by the identity documents forwarded to the Interpol member countries, Dawood, who sometimes also used the name of his brother Anees Ibrahim as one of his aliases in different countries, has as many as 11 passports issued from India, Pakistan, UAE and Yemen.

While eight out of 11 passports of the don were issued from Mumbai (India), one each out of remaining three was issued from Pakistan, Yemen and UAE.

The details show that he had got his Pakistani passport (No.-G866537), the latest among all 11, on August 12, 1991, clearly indicating his liasion with Pakistani elements much before the 1993 Mumbai blasts.

He had got his UAE passport (No.-A717288) in August, 1985 and one from Yemen (No.-F823692) in September, 1989. His last Indian passport (No.-A501801) dates back to July 26, 1985, issued from Mumbai.

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Could be a hoax, could be idle talk from real terrorists, could be legitimate.  I don't see that there's much that can be done about it by the general public.   Just like with a pandemic, the more time that passes, the more chance for more terrorism, big and small.  Be ready for potential catastrophes of all sorts at all times--we already know this and should be prepared/preparing.
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Most of us don't have a clue.......
 
 
 
The United States is at war with radical Islam, and Al-Qaeda has released videos calling for all Americans to convert to Islam and urging Muslims to attack Westerners.
 
The Islamic Circle of North American is a fundamentalist group linked to Al-Qaeda which openly propagates jihadist ideology.
 
The Muslim Fun Day at Six Flags is intended to ‘Islamize' the entire park as an exercise to show how shar'ia and American values can be intertwined. The mosque rising out of the roller coaster on the poster for the event reflect's ICNA's agenda which aims to turn America into the United States of Allah. Beila Rabinowitz, the director of Militant Islam Monitor, is urging the management of Six Flags to disallow the use of their premises for the Muslim Fun Day Islamist propagation exercise by ICNA.

The Muslim Great Adventure Day at Six Flags is part of a strategy to put a benign face on radical Islam.

Please call Six Flags to express your concern at their hosting of a radical Islamist ICNA event and urge them to do their part to help in the fight against terrorism by requesting that they disallow the use of their premises, and refuse to facilitate the spread of ICNA's jihadist ideology, by not taking payment from a Saudi funded Wahhabist organization which is promoting the destruction of the West. Corporate Contact Information: Website - http://www.sixflags.com/contactus.asp
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I don't get it... At Six Flags, is it Muslim day or Dolphin Day?

That picture would be cool in 3-D. You would look at it and scream because it would seem as if a dolphin was attacking you! eeeeeek!

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In the poster they should replace the roller coaster with the Brooklyn Bridge and the fireworks with a mushroom cloud. 
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Someone asked when the Ramadan started it starts Sept 23 it was on my calenadar that was the only reason that  I know that
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Terrorists like to terrorize people, most of it is mental. If it is true, why would the guy name NYC and DC? So that we could be on the alert? Then again, sometimes people hide in plain sight. When he says that the American Muslims with Christian and Jewish names will be responsible, it could be their way of striking at American Muslims who have dared to become too Americanized, in the hopes that the populace will attack them. Either way, we need to be prepared, this  form of terror sounds more believable to me, (as far as plans go) then if someone would have said lets get some guys teach them how to fly airplanes, hijack them and then pilot them into the WTC and the Pentagon.  Since I can both see ways it could be true and ways it could be false, I am just glad I am as prepped as I can be. I think if this were to happen, we would have several new glass factories in the world,  a strike like that, would justify nuclear retaliation and we know that they may have a few but we have a lot.
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I am in N Syracuse...and I have to say this, seeing Migs flying over my house just today mind you, made me drop my jaw. They were headed for Fort Drum NY...why? Heck, I've never ever seen Migs fly N of here ever before, always been east of and west of. Going up to the 10th Mt div..really raises my eyebrow! (esp after seeing Migs for the past few weeks every day, 5 of them like clock work). Hold onto your seats!
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I don't buy any of this at all.  What would be the point of divulging your plans to the enemy?  What kind of military strategy is that?  
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Originally posted by rodin33 rodin33 wrote:

<FONT style=": #222222">Huh uh, no way, don't you dare, the new fall premier's are getting ready to start and I'm watching them!!



It's a hoax, not a threat.

    

And I have my doll house to work on! lol Don't they even dare....grrrrrrr lol (have to have some humor eh Rodin? ;)That or go totaly bOnKeRs ;P
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Is anyone going to start watching Jericho on Wed. starting at 8pm I think CBS...I think that channel. Nuclear attack on US
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Originally posted by GulfCoastMama GulfCoastMama wrote:

I don't buy any of this at all. What would be the point of
divulging your plans to the enemy? What kind of military strategy
is that?

    Gulf coast...I think its a laugh myself..dosn't matter if they say where, they arn't saying when, thats the important pt. We are very little if at all more safer today than we were at 9/11....a huge city like NY or LA? They would be like looking for a needle in a haystack;(
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Originally posted by MelodyAtHome MelodyAtHome wrote:

Is anyone going to start watching Jericho on Wed. starting at 8pm I think CBS...I think that channel. Nuclear attack on US

    Can you expalin more on exactly just what Jerico is? I've never heard of it.
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Hi Anharra,we had a  muslim only event at Alton Towers amusement park in the UK apparently out of the 25,000 tickets available only a thousand were sold and the venue canceled because of the low ticket sales,so much for becoming part of the general society.My thoughts are for that poor Italian nun shot by the cowards in somalia,thats what you get for trying to help them!!Angry
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Originally posted by MelodyAtHome MelodyAtHome wrote:

Is anyone going to start watching Jericho on Wed. starting at 8pm I think CBS...I think that channel. Nuclear attack on US
 
Lol, that's the show I'm watching, last Weds it was the finale of RockStar (Yay Lucus) this Weds: Jericho!  It'll probably be kind of dumb (arent they usually?) but I figured I might get some additional ideas for prepping, but then again I might get a case of 'numb brain'. lol
 
Sharenka!! Hi, I haven't seen you lately, glad to see you.
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Originally posted by CabinLass CabinLass wrote:

Nah.  Something isn't right about the above article.  The link is to HomlandSecurityUs but it looks a little tabloidish.  Why would the true Dept. of Homeland Defense have a newsletter?
 
You're right, CabinLass.  The true DHS doesn't have a news letter.  This link refers to a group called the Northeast Intelligence Network.  Note that this is a dot com address, not dot gov.  Below is a brief description of the site's mission, but you can read about it yourself if you just follow the link in the first post.
 
Northeast Intelligence Network:  Our Mission:

This is a special division of Tactical Publications dedicated to the fight against terrorism, developed and maintained as www.HomelandSecurityUS.com, a division of Hagmann Investigative Services, Inc. We are comprised of a small contingent of experienced investigators known as Northeast Intelligence Services founded by veteran private investigator Douglas J. Hagmann.

(snip)

This is an anti-terrorist web site developed in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks on America that will offer practical reference information, vital links, and other valuable information from an investigative perspective. Although we are not related to OR ENDORSED BY any government agency, we interact with the applicable law enforcement agencies on a regular basis.
 
 
 
From the first post:   Quote: 
 
"The announcements from Abu Dawood were obtained by Hamid Mir, the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Taliban leader Mullah Omar in the wake of 9/11. Mir earlier reports regarding the resurgence of the Taliban with support from Iran and an unofficial truce between President Pervez Musharraf and al Qaeda have been panned out by the press in recent months.

Mr. Mir interviewed Dawood on September 12 at the tomb of Sultan Mehmud Ghaznawi on the outskirts of Kabul. Dawood and the al Qaeda leaders who accompanied him were clean-shaven and dressed as Western reporters. The al Qaeda commandeer had contacted Mir by cell-phone to arrange the meeting. The contents of the encounter are as follows:"

If you google Hamid Mir, you can verify his credentials.  Also, the following link is to the Christian Science Monitor, known internationally for its excellent reporting.  The article referenced in the link is about Hamid Mir, if anyone is still in doubt as to his credentials as a journalist,

 
 
This aricle is definitely not a hoax on the part of the reporting, at least.  As to whether those he interviewed were playing straight, only the future will tell.

I have taken the trouble to verify the legitimacy of this account because it may well be a sign of troubles to come.  Most of us here are prepared or preparing for any disaster.  If you know people who live in the NYC or DC area, I don't think it would hurt to give them a heads up and make sure they are prepping - for whatever.  IMHO, add Chicago and LA.



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Jericho...is a weekly show starting this Wed...8pm eastern time CBS I think is the channel...I watched the whole first episode online at Yahoo...you can too. It was really good. I liked it. I think it will be interesting. Basically about a small town, the people in it and what they do when they see the Nuke from a distance explode...I won't say anymore. Watch it online or wait until Wed...I think only the first episode is online. I liked it:O)
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This does not belong on Avian Flu Talk
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Originally posted by medclinician medclinician wrote:

This does not belong on Avian Flu Talk
You're right MC we're being bad. Maybe Albert can move or delete the thread.
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This domain is BS. here is the registration info. It is a private person and has nothing to do with the us govt.
 
Registrant:
Jill St. Claire (HOMELANDSECURITYUS-NET-DOM)
P O BOX 0001
Los Angeles, CA 95100
US
800-282-2882
webmaster@homelandsecurityus.net

Domain Name: HOMELANDSECURITYUS.NET

Administrative Contact:
Jill St. Claire webmaster@homelandsecurityus.net
P O BOX 0001
Los Angeles, CA 95100
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800-282-2882

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Technical Support LowestHosting.com support-p@Lowesthosting.com
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Fax- 503-210-0379

Record last updated on 19-Dec-2005.
Record expires on 02-Jan-2007.
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This domain is BS. here is the registration info. It is a private person and has nothing to do with the us govt.  (Mach)
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 Yes Mach... we know that...if we read the link I posted above :)
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Why would the true Dept. of Homeland Defense have a newsletter?
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http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/
 
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/homeland/index.html
 
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This does not belong on Avian Flu Talk    (Medclinician)
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I have not seen you write this for all the OT posts....
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Not all Muslim people are extremist.

This Muslim Group Monitors extemist Islamists... this is where the Six Flags poster came from.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2315

Six Flags Great Adventure in NJ to be transformed into "The Great Muslim Adventure Day" by Al Qaeda linked group 9/15/06

Jihad by conversion, and Islamisation of all things American is the stated agenda of the Islamic Circle of North America the Muslim American Society (whose name incorporates their goals) and the Young Muslims wing of their da'wa (Islamist propagation) enterprise .
 
The event poster says it all. . The mosque and minarets in the poster showered in fireworks are towering over the "world's highest... [See full post]
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I am in N Syracuse...and I have to say this, seeing Migs flying over my house just today mind you, made me drop my jaw.
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I think they are keeping in shape if you are seeing some action.  That is good to know. 
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 Maybe Albert can move or delete the thread (rodin)
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hi Albert :)
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It's a hoax, not a threat.
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Could be rodin...  nowhere else do I find him referred to as..."... the newly appointed commander of the al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan..."
 
I find  Abu Dawood... as an Imam... (he's dead)
 
The reports of the Prophet's sayings and deeds are called ahadith. Abu-Dawud lived a couple of centuries after the Prophet's death and worked extremely hard to collect his ahadith. Each report in his collection was checked for compatibility with the Qur'an, and the veracity of the chain of reporters had to be painstakingly established. Abu-Dawud's collection is recognized by the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world
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and with this spelling...
 
Introduction to Partial Translation of Sunan Abu Dawood
 
and another here...
 
here...
 
Abu Dawood Mosque
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But no where else referring to Abu Dawood as the man in the very first post.
 
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U.S. DESIGNATES DAWOOD IBRAHIM AS TERRORIST SUPPORTER

Indian Crime Lord has Assisted Al Qaida and Supported Other Terrorists in India

 

WASHINGTON – The U.S. Treasury Department today announced that it is designating Dawood Ibrahim as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist under Executive Order 13224 and will be requesting that the United Nations list him as well.  Today’s designation freezes any assets belonging to Ibrahim within the U.S. and prohibits transactions with U.S. nationals.  The UN listing will require that all UN Member States take similar actions.

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Originally posted by mach mach wrote:

This domain is BS. here is the registration info. It is a private person and has nothing to do with the us govt.
 
snip  
 
Mach, also see my post on 9/17 at 7:37pm for more info on the group.  Again, note that this site does not pretend to be a gov't site.  It is a dot com site, not a dot gov.
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IAEA letter calls U.S. nuclear study of Iran "dishonest"[Special Report]
 
Special report: Iran Nuclear Crisis
    BEIJING, Sept. 15 (Xinhuanet) -- UN inspectors investigating Iran's nuclear program have written a letter to a congressional committee, claiming that a U.S. report into Iran's nuclear capabilities is "outrageous and dishonest."
 
 
 
 
Israel: Iran "months" from becoming nuclear power
www.chinaview.cn 2006-09-18 07:13:48

 
www.chinaview.cn 2006-09-15 15:13:03

 

 
 

Special report: Iran Nuclear Crisis

Iran replies to six-nation proposal  

Iran launches military exercise

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said on Sunday that Iran is just "a few months" from being able to enrich uranium, a key step to producing a nuclear bomb.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni (File Photo)
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    WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 (Xinhua) -- Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said on Sunday that Iran is just "a few months" from being able to enrich uranium, a key step to producing a nuclear bomb.

    "The crucial moment is not the day of the bomb. The crucial moment is the day in which Iran will master the enrichment, the knowledge of enrichment," Livni said on CNN's "Late Edition."

    Iranians "are trying to send a message that it's too late" for the international community to stop their nuclear program, Livni said, noting that the world "cannot afford" for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

    "It's not only a threat to Israel," she said. "The recent understanding, also, of moderate Arab states is that Iran is a threat to the region."

    Washington has been pushing for sanctions to force Tehran to stop producing enriched uranium, which can be used for both nuclear power and atomic weapons.

    The UN Security Council demands that Iran suspend its nuclear activities by Aug. 31. In its Resolution 1696 adopted in July, the Security Council for the first time makes legally binding demands on Iran and a threat of sanctions.

    Iran refuses to suspend its uranium enrichment, saying the work is only to make fuel for electricity generation.

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Anharra & Muriel,
 
Thank you for your great investigative work.  I would love if this were a hoax.  I was afraid being beheaded when posting but thought it was too important not to.  Thanks for all your time, effort & concern in looking into this so objectively.
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Originally posted by Anharra Anharra wrote:

This does not belong on Avian Flu Talk    (Medclinician)
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I have not seen you write this for all the OT posts....



Albert has done a remarkable job of keeping this site on focus. He has created an alternate site to discuss Middle East issues. I put in many hours in here, on the network, and traveling to address these issues, research information and even am doing research in the medical field.

This site is a valuable resource for millions of people and it has a credibility, a professional quality as well as a human and down to earth personal feel, that makes it unique and more special to me than all other Avian Flu and general disease forums.

I repsect that and value it. It is not tabloid. If someone comes on here with a wild blog story (example the Ebola on the plane in England or Avian in Texas in people) we are a team. We are. And even though everyone here who posts contributes, we have highly qualified doctors, medical professionals, virologists, and a host of professional and non-professional persons who can quickly but in an adult and mature fashion shred
tabloid type data.

A lot of times this is not at all fun. Long hours, gruelling research, and even though I personally try to verify the data I post from the most reliable sources, occassionally together (we work together to seperate the alarmist and many times people in all honestly post things which are out there and not verifiable in all innocence) from what we really need to focus on.

How many people have been killed by terrorist attacks in the United States in the last five years? Looks like we - and the people at DHS, FBI, CIA, etc. are doing our jobs pretty well. The public has no idea how many thousands of plots and threats, even to the president's life have been prevented by our powerful internal security forces.

You aren't going to know the half of it. It won't be in the media. There are thousands of agents in place and they are all over the world. And unlike our quandry with Avian, they do an amazing job.

So, we must not panic at every alert, every threat, every plot. The FBI receives thousands (many more even) every day which they handle. Complaints, reports.

We are not as vulnerable as you might think. We are many times more aware and monitoring hundreds of locations and persons after 9/11. Perhaps as with our military, our Intelligence may give the impression they are a lot less informed than they are. They don't want the enemy, our enemies to know how efficient, how aware we are of their activities. We don't publish it on open net for everyone to read. That which is sensitive and secret, stays secret.

Enough bone waving. Have some faith in our country and our defenses. They are highly trained women and men and even though the media has a lot of fun selling copy and airtime scaring people, it has been five years since 9/11.

Now, in that time horrific pandemics and outbreaks have spread all over the world. We have our hands and plates totally full here handling the threat of disease.

We need to prepare for this, we need to keep a CONSTANT stream of accurate and reliable information up and posted. We all are doing a good thing here. I just would like to see us continue to focus on what Albert has started.

Prep, but do not live in fear. Then those who are enemies to our freedom - have won.


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 Well,, thats tellin us.
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MedClinician - you're right, this thread is way off topic, at any rate it's a hoax. There are many people every day finding out about H5 and for many of them AFT is their first stop in their quest for information. We shouldn't post this kind of stuff in the news section.
Most of us who post are prepped or mostly prepped already, we're in service now for others so they will be ready too.
H5 is too big a threat for us to loose sight. We have a discussion side that is more appropriate for this kind of topic.
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RE: "deleting this thread and this is off topic and does not belong here." Over 1100 people have read this thread almost as many have read this thread in a shorter duration than the OT "Obesity Pandemic". The threat of a nuclear event may cause more people to prep. I personally don't care what event or emergency someone preps for it's just a good idea to be prepared. If proven the story is a hoax then deleting may be necessary.
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Why everybody is think that if America will be attacked with nuclear weapons. We would not retaliate? Just because it’s Al-Qaeda and we don’t know where they are.
I think the target would be the entire Middle-East, starting with Iran. But I could be wrong we didn’t do anything to hoards of dancing Muslims who where celebrating the fall of World Trade Center on 9/11/2001 in Paterson N.J.  Not one Mosque was set ablaze or one Muslim killed, but there always some church is burn to the ground or nun killed. We always turn the other cheek, but what happens if only have two cheeks. I think we need to teach them some Christian values lets baptize them in Fire and then with Holy Ghost. 
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Speaking of off topic posts to delete: How about deleting the mooloomen postings?
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