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judylynn39
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Yea we have alot of missiles and nuclear tactical...whatever. But war is like chess. If you are careful and place your "men" in the right places you WILL win. If America was attacked in the "right places";it could literally bring us down.On all levels! So it is NOT a matter of how much you have.It is a matter of using what you have and strategical placement of what you have; that can cause you to gain victory.They claim to have enough to bring us down. Why would anyone think this is a hoax? Were we prepared for what happened on 911? I sure as heck wasn't!!!! Are you prepared for nuclear war? Because,we will not be the only ones affected! It will affect everyone on this planet.From way too many stand points to think about. Food & water for one.Radiation for two.ETC...... I don't think this is a hoax. I think that 911 proves these people don't play by anyone's rules! They have also proven, beyond a doubt,they care nothing for human life! Including their own.
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I would not have otherwise known about the Jericho tv show or the opinions of fellow members on the posted topic. If any member thinks a thread is not important don't even check it, that is better than making wordy negative posts in the thread. Personally I like to see all the differing views here. Whatever bent they are. This is what makes the forum interesting. Many good people are out searching for the latest BF news, they don't rest. |
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apomales
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http://tinyurl.com/plb4a
The following is taken from the above web site not in its entirety. Paul Williams, author of the new book, "The Al Qaeda Connection," has stirred a national controversy with his reporting on the imminent nuclear terror threat posed by Osama bin Laden. In this exclusive dispatch, the second of a two-part series first published in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, he details how some of the nuclear devices intended to create an American Hiroshima got here. The individual who merits the distinction of the "America's most dangerous" fugitive is Adnan el-Shukrijumah, a diminutive, 30-year-old terrorist who stands at 5-foot-4 and weighs 140 pounds. El-Shukrijumah represents the perfect "sleeper agent," since he speaks English without the slightest hint of an accent and possesses the uncanny abilities to blend into a crowd, to alter his looks, and to assume a multitude of identities. He is the proverbial Mr. Cellophane. Nothing about el-Shukrijumah indicates his radical Islamic orientation. He remains clean-shaven and never wears a long shirt or chews a toothpick. He has been known to have a beer on occasion (like an average American Joe), to smoke an occasional Camel and even to carry rosary beads in his pocket. Adnan el Shukrijumah, a trained nuclear technician and accomplished pilot, has been singled out by bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil, a nuclear event that is known among al-Qaida planners as "the American Hiroshima." The terrorist was last seen in Mexico, where, on Nov. 1, 2004, he allegedly created by me to make a point a Piper PA Pawnee cropduster from Ejido Queretaro near Mexacli to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S. The plane's tail number was XBCYP. In 1995, the Shukrijumah family relocated to Miramar, Fla., where Gulshair became the spiritual leader of the radical Masjid al-Hijah Mosque, and where Adnan became friends with Jose Padilla, who planned to detonate a radiological bomb in midtown Manhattan; Mandhai Jokhan, who was convicted of attempting to blow up nuclear power plants in southern Florida; and a group of other home-grown terrorists. A NUCLEAR MISSION IN CANADA Following the success of 9-11, el-Shukrijumah became singled out by bin Laden and al-Zawahiri to spearhead the next great attack on America – a nuclear attack that would take place simultaneously in seven U.S. cities, leaving millions dead and the richest and most powerful nation on earth in ashes. To prepare for this mission, el-Shukrijumah, along with fellow al-Qaida sleeper agents Anas al-Liby, Jaber A. Elbaneh, and Amer el-Matti, was sent to McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a facility that boasted a five-megawatt nuclear research reactor, the largest reactor of any educational facility in Canada. At McMaster, where they may have enrolled under aliases, el-Shukrijumah and his associates reportedly wasted no time in gaining access to the nuclear reactor and stealing more than 180 pounds of nuclear waste for the creation of radiological bombs. Jane Johnson, a spokesperson for McMaster University, declined to comment on the stay of the al-Qaida operatives at the school. She insisted that such information was confidential. COMING TOMORROW: How terror nukes got inside America. |
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OK I'm going to here it I'm sure.
I am sick to death of reading how great you are...How right you are....and what we should worry about....
How do you do it...You must have arms like gumby...Patting yourself on the back for ALL you hard earn long hours of grueling research.....Give me a break....Your so long winded and off topic on many occasions. I really just want to poke you with a pin and let some of the air out before you get to the keyboard...
I realize many of you enjoy the long winded reports...I just can't get past the part about you praising yourself.....
I realize I always ask not to offend but in the case...I'm sick of you telling us "in many words I might add", what we should worry about...We're all well aware of the dangers out there and if your not Great...
Telling us it's off topic....Oh my God how about the " I am continuing my investigation into the spread of Dengue Fever which I found extremely disturbing when I first stumbled on this" This was under your Dengue Fever and Malaria topic under the news. You were thrilled when Sand posted the first report about it....No complaining from you then....
We were all glad to have the information as I am to have this information..
I certainly don't need you telling me what I should worry about. Telling us it's O/T....Well then don't read it....It says OT and what its about you don't have to read it....
Please don't get me wrong your contribution is great but your holier than thou attitude is just annoying and rude.
We have highly qualified doctors, medical professionals, virologists, and a host of professional and non-professional persons who can quickly but in an adult and mature fashion shred
tabloid type data. This is just Rude and holier than thou attitude. Gotta go.... We all put in our research...Long hours as well....
Now we have a responsible person to regulate the forum...Please let him be the judge. It's not your job.
Now for all the people that have to get a cup of coffee to read your post my apology is to you....
If I've offended you please except my apology...I've been wanting to say that for a long time...
I feel better now...Thank for listening
Let see do I post this. Or clear form....Nope Im posting it.
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marks6555
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HC,
Not to gang up on a member but Fantastic post! My sentiments exactly! -mark |
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I'll get this back on topic.
Ever notice that militant muslims say that when something bad happens in the west, that God is punishing infidels?
Ever notice that the majority of the bird flu and recent earthquakes are in muslim countries?
Something to think about.
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I for one appreciate MedC's posts and I don't find him pompous, to each his own. The dengue is relevant because many cases of H5 may/are probably being misdiagnosed as dengue. We may actually see an even larger surge of cases diagnosed as dengue as our first indication of pan flu strain.
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Mahshadin
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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purplepanther
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I just read this on yahoo recently like today and wasn't sure how to post this. So here is part of the article. Al Qaida in Iraq and its allies warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the west were "doomed" and proclaimed that the holy war would continue until Islam dominates the world.
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Gee, I can't imagine why anyone would get the idea that they are violent!
They are just looking for any excuse to escalate their terror, if it wasn't the Pope it would have been something else. They WILL eventually strike us big time, because there is no reason to their hate and no way to negotiate with this kind of evil. They only understand convert to Islam or die.
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I think that the threat of terrorism is huge. We do have OT subjects. One I read the other day, about rumblings about drinking coffee and coal mines, and coal barons homes, and sitting talking at colleges stuff like that was the most different of all, it was like a page out of someones personal journal. I guess if one poster can do that, then another should be able to post on terrorism. Since the end of the war in Lebanon, I have not gone much to the terrorism website. I also recieved this very post today, from Worldnetdaily. So, I think the report is out there. We have speculated many times about why things with the BF are allowed to be in the news, and is the government trying to let us know or tell us something, well you never know. Maybe we all should be watching the terrorism website more, while we wait for a bird flu that may never come, we may have a even worse crisis in our future.
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It was an eye opener Mahashadin...
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.followed a link into a video of a school run by Hezbolah.
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What beautiful chidren, it broke my heart to see them... martyerdom,
they should be having a totally different experience. When I think how my own child was raised, painting flowers in the sun at Gram's house, circle games in the fresh air.... reading little women...
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Mahshadin
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Of course we are trusting the interp. Bizzare stuff at an early age. and we wonder how they can be a suicide bomber.And yet the populations support them because people in authority tell them to (Religion).
We in the west do not understand the battle
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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marks6555
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i call B.S. on the martyr vid
If they could get away with it, they would drop leaflets from the sky saying the same thing. leaflets are for WW2. now they have the internet i'm not saying we are not in the middle of a holy war but this vid is way too produced to say its not... shall i say PROPAGANDA -mark |
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Pretty Bird
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For the record Medclinian, I value your posts. I think it is a great article, but why wasn't this posted in the Off Topic section? There are similar subjects there. BTW, I watched this Al Qaeda Commander on (I believe) Sunday night? He was being interviewed by Mike Wallace and made the same statements as in this article.
Anyone see the show? I don't believe this is a hoax.
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“A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequence.” Proverbs 22:3
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marks6555
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5 years without another attack on America thank you Kerry! or ummm. Dean?
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I think the video is legit. This type of education for children in schools has been documented by the mainstream media all over the arab middle east. This is nothing new.
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Let us never forget many of the missed 'signals' pre 9/11. I don't think anyone will ever be able to take flying lessons, paying cash and never finish the class on landing a plane without raising an American eyebrow. We can't get soft on them now and have to maintain a zero tolerance stance and not give credence or an audience to their pissing and moaning anti-American, anti-freedom rhetoric. I say we beat them at their own game, instead of bombing them, give each Arab kid an Ipod, pair of jeans, My Space and a Happy meal and see how quickly the younger generation begins to reject their own mindless propaganda. Just ignore them and turn off their video’s so we can go on with our day peacefully. |
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Mahshadin
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I think the film is legit for the simple reason that this is not the first like this. I have seen similar from Pakistan & from Hamas.
This would lend itself to the question ofhow do they get their people to commit cuicide as if they them selves are the weapon knowing full well they are ending their life.
Can we expect Terrorizm to stop when this is slowly being implimented and paid for by these same organizations? Who is really the enemy the actual terrorist who has gone through life training and brain washing or the Head Master who Teaches them to sacrifece themselves.
Alot of tough questions that need answering.
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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daddog36
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This war is a strange one. We have captured most of the leaders of Al Qaeda except the main leader Osma Binladen. WWII for the USA only lasted 4 years,1941-1945.The war on terror is now in its 5th year with no end in sight. For those who read history WWI started with an assisination. I wonder sometimes if we are seeing the start of another world war. This one radically different than any war this country has fought. September 11 looks like the start of this war. Some say its WWIII time will tell. I know this,our foes seem to be growing at an alarming rate. Our list of allies seems tobe shrinking. I think we must stand strong in these times and learn from history. Apeasment is not the answer. What worries me is this war being passed to another U.S president who ever that maybe. This ussally means escalation or withdrawl as Vietnam taught us. Your thoughts please.
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ImmuneConcerned
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Anharra previously listed a good that web site that merits highlighting. the topic is: WHAT TO DO WITH LESS THAN 3 DAYS TO ATOMIC DISASTER. I'll download it and post it in the discussion section |
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Thanks, IC, I think that is a valid concern, and we should have some idea of what needs doing different than prep for BF, etc. My only question is, how would we know when we have 3 days? I suspect that we will know nothing until we are hit.
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If there is a nuclear attack, or multiple nuclear attacks on America, the gelded politicians will not be able to stop bloodlust from sweeping the country. If this happens, God help us all. |
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Judy
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Off topic it is, and was stated so from the first. I am personally thankful for the thread since I had been so intent on researching AI that I have not paid much attention to anything else. I would not have known about this otherwise, and it sure doesn't hurt to be reminded that we should be prepared as well as we can for any event that has the potential for great loss of human life. I think the threat is real, whether now or ten years from now. There will always be terrorists; you cannot wipe out hate, fanatacism, and insane bloodthirst. And remember that the prime purpose of a terrorist is to terrorize, and the very threat to kill even without eventual performance of the threatened deed is an act of terrorism in itself. |
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If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
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Below is something I read: Thought it might be of importances weither this is a hoax or for real.You should really read the whole thing. US. According to these sources, a "significant and alarming number" of illegal aliens attempting entry into the US, caught by border patrol agents, have been found to be carrying Potassium Iodide tablets, which are used to protect against exposure to radiation in emergency situations.* This from North East Inteligents Network news The Topic was posted Sept18 Look for the words Nuclear Threats : Law Enforcement Sources Confirm: Illegals crossing border carrying KiTablets www.homelandsecurity.com/site/modules/news |
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i hope i posted this correctly i have not posted in months. And I know Albert got certain rules about posting. If i didnt do it correctly please correct me.
And I will not do it again. |
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Jazzman
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I don't see how that necessarily means anything. It might just mean that the illegals know they might have to travel through areas where nuclear weapons were tested in order to successfully sneak into the country. |
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I just saw Hamid Mir, the reporter in the story, on Headline
News. The show was "Glenn Beck". I'd never seen that show
before, so I don't know how credible the whole thing is. He is on
again at 12M, so it might be worth watching.
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I don't remember posting a link to nuke prepare but here is a link for a basic one, I have no idea as to the benefits of the below, so please use your own good judgement.... here are several sources. Please note the date on the last one.
WHAT TO DO WITH LESS THAN 3 DAYS TO A NUCLEAR DISASTER!http://www.homelandsecurityus.net/what_to_do_with_less_than_3_days.htm ..................................................................................................
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What Would We Do In Case Of A Nuclear Attack?
By GEOFF MORRELLEXCERPT-
August 31, 2006— What if a nuclear weapon were to explode in New York City? Or a nuclear power plant were to come under attack outside Chicago? How about a dirty bomb explosion in Washington, DC? Is the U.S. prepared to respond to any of these threats? Not even close, according to Physicians for Social Responsibility. |
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Linda-ann
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I hope this post dosent get delited , is stupid to cut a thread just because it off topic , It still about threats , its about why we prep.
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marks6555
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Jericho is mentioned in the Jewish Hebrew Bible (the Christian Old Testament), over 70 times.
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marks6555
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.....Could you edit that please?
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Anharra, edit what? Just curious.
Marks6555 what does the f stand for after Jesus??
I saw Jericho last week online and again with hubby on TV. I liked it. Next week looks even more interesting.
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Judy
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Not funny Marks6555; maybe wasn't meant to be if the "f" stands for "forever." Somehow that's not what I think you meant.
Sorry to the rest of this group for my part in these off topic comments, but some things are truly offensive to me. Please delete this post if you find it necessary. I will not be offended by that.
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If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
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I had no idea there was a Nuclear Calendar... Nearly every day is full.
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crystal
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I have a question about shelters if anyone can answer. After reading the very interesting articles above regarding makeshift shelters in the basement- We have a "music room" in our basement which has 3 walls underground but of course a door to get into it. How do you get adequate air supply if you duct tape around the door once you are inside? Anyone know the answer to this?
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If we have a nuclear attack and have to shelter in.
Everything outside will be contaminated. How long is it to be safe to go outside. I read article that within so many miles of the explosion. People get disinagrated. then they get first degree burns, further away 2nd degree burns, and further get 3 degree burns. Follow by the wind sending fallout that radio active all over the place. I think if a nuclear attack happens we are screwed. Just my opinion i rather deal with bf. Cause the attack thing seems overwhelming to deal with. JUst my opinion. There are flash fires, and some sort of explosion concustion that knocks out windows. You have to be at least 10 miles away to be safe. I think but am not sure. Can someone clear me on this situation. Cause it is really rattling my brain at this point. |
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Birdlady, nothing personal, but you and many others here need to spend a little time doing some basic research in nuclear warfare and less with posts that display your complete lack of knowledge. Too many individuals here post hundreds of posts that do little except take up bandwidth. Yes I expect to get flames over speaking the truth, but please everone; limit your posts to expanding everyones knowledge on a subject rather than displaying your complete lack of knowledge.
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Either deal with reality or reality will deal with you.
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There is a difference between being truthful and being a rude ass.But since your so brainy Im sure you already knew that.And yes its personal.
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Rockon, not to start anything but that was just mean. I think her questions are valid. There are many new to this topic and others may have the same question. Why don't you just answer the questions she had if you are so smart.
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Mahshadin
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WOW
The beauty of discussion boards is this:
If you do not like the post (Dont Click On It)
Just because your not face to face does not mean you throw insults and a flame thrower at people or their knowledge. Many people come to this website for knowledge. No one person is an expert on every subject and I am sure if the subject were changed you would be on the other side of that statement.
of course thers always the back buton!
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How do you get adequate air supply if you duct tape around the door once you are inside? Anyone know the answer to this? (Crystal)
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hi, if it is a room within the basement you could just duct tape the door that enters into the entire basement? and cover the windows.
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