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Albert
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Posted: December 29 2006 at 2:49pm |
Hussein is being executed today. Any thoughts?
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Just Ducky
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Penham
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Normally I don't believe in the death penalty, however under certain extreme circumstances I think it is ok, this is one of those circumstances.
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I strongly believe in the death penalty.I'm waiting to see what happens after.
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digital
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There may be a few old Saddam diehards that genuinely miss him, but there arent many of them left anymore, most Iraqi's have more on their mind these days. There may be some opportunists that use the event to create some mischief, His passing is not much more than a footnote in M.E. histroy. Everyone has moved on.
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I support the deliverance of justice when it will right the wrongs initiated by ruthless individuals on vulnerable and helpless peoples. Another side of me wants to see his ratty ass rot in jail for the rest of his pathetic life enduring the abuse and ridicule he deserves from his captors.
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I know that he liked to push people into tree chippers feet first.
He should suffer more. Hanging is too short a painfull experience. |
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Put him in for life and give him Manson as his roomie.I smell a sit-com.Lol
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/saddam-soon-to-be-executed/2006/12/30/1166895509954.html
Hussein's lawyers filed the court challenge a short time earlier, giving the judge just hours to act before the execution was expected to be carried out. Hussein's lawyers argued that because the former Iraqi president also faced a civil lawsuit in Earlier, a senior Iraqi government official said Saddam would be executed before 2pm The time was agreed upon during a meeting between US and Iraqi officials, said the official, who declined to be named because he is not authorised to speak to the media. "The time has been agreed upon. It will be done by six o'clock in the morning ( "The agreement was reached during a meeting between Iraqi and American officials. Saddam will be handed over shortly before the execution." The Yemeni and Libyan governments made 11th hour appeals to spare Saddam's life. Yemeni Prime Minister Abdul-Kader Bajammal wrote to the Bajammal wrote to President George W. Bush that Saddam's execution would "increase the sectarian violence" in In a letter to President Jalal Talabani, Bajammal urged the Iraqi leader to halt the execution and employ his "wisdom and political prudence to create a climate that helps heal the wounds" in the country. Saddam was a prisoner of war, and "those who arrested should try him," Gadhafi said, referring to the American troops who captured Saddam in December 2003. |
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Legacy
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I always wondered...if Hussein was supposedly so "close to Allah'...why did he send others to do his dying for him? I'd like to hear what Allah finally has to say to him about that....
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I do everything my Rice Crispies tell me to....
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very funny stuff...nuff said
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I am amazed....just amazed........
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why is it our judge? why us? why not a judgement from his people? or the EU? Let them help out...
Jail.
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annharra, I agree
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I don't see any posts from the four who disagree.....I wonder if I am the only one willing to say it!
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Margreth
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I dont beleive in the death penality normally .
But for this man I step aside my beleifs He was a cruel dictator . I only hope peace can come to Iraq now. I worry about terrorist retalation, He had his supportors. Still in the end its up to the citazins of Iraq to make their own future. What more can the Americans do to stop the in fighting. Its neighbour vrs neighbour their. |
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hi... I didn't vote... but I say jail due to my beliefs... only if someone caused me to feel in mortal danger...like attack...breaking into my home...
would I think of such a thing.
I respect others beliefs... (like brave soldiers...etc.) that's just mine.
I was brought up that way...like my Dad didn't allow me to play baseball
with my brothers. And now girls do that. (not mine :)
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Whare does one draw the line...if it's ok for him then why not others?
There will never be peace in the Middle East untill Jesus returns. This man's execution will NOT solve anything.
Worry about terrorist? No such thing.
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"only if someone caused me to feel in mortal danger...like attack...breaking into my home...
would I think of such a thing."
But if it involves other people,or hundreds of people its ok? |
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Raptureready there is a saying " LIve by the sword die by the sword"
Some things make no sense. He didnt make any.And your defending his right to life makes even less. Jesus said turn the other cheek not a blind eye. |
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Well.you have read me wrong. I am not defending his or any other persons right to "make life less". I know the bible says God is the JUDGE not us. Oh,by the way He said "turn the other cheek" and then what???? Hmmm.....
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Hello.........?
Dude... print it all please...
"...only if someone caused me to feel in mortal danger...like attack...breaking into my home...
would I think of such a thing...."
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why would any such thing be ok in anyones mind?
Was that the question?
Was what he did ok?
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walkindude... my answer is no.
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ShaRenKa
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wow...never thought I'd see anything like this here..but hey, you asked. I'm one of the few who voted no. Why? I do not believe in the Death Penalty. Though I do believe in life inprisonment for such, that is with no parole, no color tv or radio and 12 hr work days. Also? It must be a punishment for ALL who do things such as Saddam has, past and present. Now think hard, real hard, how many Presidents or Leaders of however many countries have caused the deaths of innocent people and children for whatever reasons they may have had? There isn't one innocent country anywhere.Are they any better than Saddam and what he did? No. But not all get punished. This is why I'm against Death Penalty...Justice in this world has a long way to go yet.And please....Don't yell at me! YOU ASKED! lol
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Sha Ren Ka
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good point ShaRenka
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ShaRenKa
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Thank you Rapture!
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Sha Ren Ka
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gettingready
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I don't believe that revenge is the same thing as justice, as much as people want it, so I'm not for the death penalty either. It may be the best thing for Iraq, however, to have him permanently out of the picture. But, like Hitler, alot of people had to go along with his orders to slaughter human beings, in order for it to happen.
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I think a wrong is being done, free him, give him back the country and bring our troups home. Forget this mess, it isn't worth one american life for the whole batch.
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Under The Radar
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I think the tree chipper would've been too short a painful experience, but more appropriate for him than hanging.
Maybe they at least made the rope too short to snap his neck quickly.
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AnnHarra Im not attacking you.Im not sure I understand what you were saying in your post.
Rapture what do you mean by "Worry about terrorist? no such thing." If you mean what I think you do then I believe there are some families from 9-11 that would disagree. |
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I dont understand people against the death penalty.I was raised knowing that if I do wrong there is a penalty.If I commit a big enough crime it will cost me my life.If I sin without repentance the price is my soul.
If I give a criminal a second chance and he rapes or kills again doesnt this make me guilty also? Should we spend millions housing these people for life where they can teach and spread their hate?Or instead spend the money helping the victims? We live in a society where 1 in 6 women is raped.I wonder how many of the rapists are repeat offenders. Most people I know that are against the death penalty have never had a loved one raped or murdered.Or had a gun held to their head by someone that couldn't care less if you lived or died.People say oh you want revenge not justice. Thats not true.The guy that put the gun to my head didnt serve any time what so ever.A year or so later he raped a 16 year old girl. I believe he is already back on the streets. Anyway I m sorry if I offended anyone and for my rambling on and on. My main point is that we must protect the innocent and each other. I think most people mean well but there are some truly bad people in the world .And if you ever stood eye to eye with one of them you would understand what I am so poorly trying to say. |
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There is no shame involved in executing that man ,
but there is shame in the fact that the world took so long to deal with him. Likewise the world now sits on its collective hands and watches apes like Kim Junk-il ( North Korea ) , Robert Mugabe ( Zimbabwe ) create a living hell for the peoples of their countries . Not to mention the crimminal leadership of countries like Syria and Iran in funding continued terrror and mayhem in the Middle-east . Crimminal leaders have for too long escaped the justice they richly deserve . |
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kparcell
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I live in America, and we have had some terrible oppression in my country, and we still have more people in prison per capita than anywhere else in the world, but we have nothing, nothing to compare with the brutality of Sadam's Iraq. For example, I don't think there is any doubt that Sadam would have wanted us all murdered without trial for having this kind of discussion...
...so although I oppose all violence, I'll have to take a few minutes to pray for each and every one of his victims, for every heart he broke, every child he starved, every person he tortured, and then I'll say a prayer for him. That being said, the US invasion of Iraq was illegal, the occupation is illegal, and the hundreds of billions of dollars that has spent there to accomplish this one result could have been better spent feeding the 800,000,000 people who are chronically malnourished. Peace on Earth, and may God - whatever name you call God - forgive us all. |
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bjregg
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I voted "disagree". I would have much rather seen Saddam locked away for his remaining years. He did many terrible things during his life and should have been made to contemplate each and every one on a daily basis until he could no longer use his mind to rationalize the atrocities. bj
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Legacy
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Yeah...how about we free him and send him to YOUR house?!
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I do everything my Rice Crispies tell me to....
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I disagree. I think it would be much more effective to let his ass rot in an iraqi prison for the rest of his life. Radical Muslims are not afraid to die, but they are afraid of being in prison forever. This man has escaped from prison with his death.
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Albert,
Yeah......................good riddance. |
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Margreth
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He could not of been simply locked up as their would of been coups to break him out. It would be too dangerous for those involved. I what our men out of Iraq and keeping him alive would of cost to many of our mens. lives Lets wind this up and get out of there. It time the Iraq people took care of themselves |
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roxy
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there are truly evil people in the world. If you ever met one, you would believe in the death penalty. there are also people on death row tha t don't belong there, a lack of money to clear their names.If you don't believe in the death penalty, support the cause. As far this man that went to the gallows, he decided his fate . he killed anyone that got in his way . roxy
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Judy
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I was going to pass on replying to this post because this is an emotional issue, so please forgive my ranting instead: There are truly evil people in this world who must be stopped by the people they share this world with. It might be possible, who knows, to build prisons where these people could be placed that would cut off all contact from others for the rest of their lives. (Is that revenge or punishment?) But in America, a life sentence does not always mean life, and lots of these people are released to kill and maim others. Many of you are probably familiar with this story, true, and I live in the area where it happened: A man was released from prison after serving time for raping a young girl and cutting off both her arms and left her to die alone(not all the details, and she did survive). No community wanted him, but he ended up in the area where I live. A year later he murdered a woman. Had he received the death penalty, that woman would not have died at his hands. Ted Bundy escaped prison and managed to continue his ways, and there are other well known cases. The death sentence, in my opinion, is not revenge or even punishment. It prevents these horrible people, who know we have the death penalty, from continuing to harm others. And I know their victims never got the consideration of being moved to a facility where they would be housed with free room and board and were never asked if they would prefer that to being maimed, tortured, and finally murdered. So yes, I believe in the death penalty. Ted Bundy has not murdered one woman since his execution. Society stopped him. And now Saddam has been stopped.
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If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
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I believe the death penalty is the perfect rehabilitation. I just think it would have been better for Sadam to rot in jail
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Judy,
I love the way you think.
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Ravendawn
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Well the UK went to war on a lie so how will the leaders who gave us this misinformation stand trial?
As for the death penalty i voted NO, life in prison yes,the wave of violence now will cause more deaths because of his death. |
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ShaRenKa
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WalkinDude said...
"I know that are against the death penalty have never had a loved one raped or murdered.Or had a gun held to their head by someone that couldn't care less if you lived or died.People say oh you want revenge not justice. Thats not true.The guy that put the gun to my head didnt serve any time what so ever.A year or so later he raped a 16 year old girl." I was raped once, later a gang rape attempt. Due to the first rape? I got pregnant, and had to have an abortion because I was only 15 and too torn up. Am I scared for life by this? yes indeedy..do I think they all deserve to be put to death for it? no. 5 yrs in prison would have sufficed for me. As for the lost baby? God will see to providing the proper punishment for him in it's behalf. I was married to an ex army service member who repeatedly swore he'd kill both myself and my children. I took yrs of beatings, while I protected my children, does he deserve the death penalty? Nope, just one hell of a good Shrink, and perhaps a quick visit with his "Maker" ;) Thats how I see it and probably always will walkindude;) |
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I do believe in the death penalty and I voted agree, but I'm so afraid that they will make him a mar-tor.
If he's jailed whats to say he could'nt get his word to the outside and still reek havoc. Even in solitude they are in contacted with people.
I really wished they had killed him when they found him in that rat whole. Would have been a fitting goodbye for him.
Hanging was too good for him...He should have suffered for years the way he made others suffer.
Just MO You asked.
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It would of cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep him locked up if not millions to provide enough protection to keep him safe and alive. He was a mass murderer, mass rapist, tyrant, dictator, selfish and evil, evil man, I just could not fathom seeing anyone in any country spend another dime for Saddam to have taken even one more breath. The world is a much better place now IMO.
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