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    Posted: February 22 2006 at 8:10pm


Mystery Disease Stalking Vultures in Asia

National Geographic Today

May 20, 2003

This week in Budapest, Hungary, an international gathering of scientists
will explore how to save a creature that itself symbolizes doom: the
vulture.

At the 6th World Conference on Birds of Prey and Owls, several sessions
will focus on the Oriental white-backed vulture, Gyps bengalensis, once
the most common bird of prey in Asia and possibly in the world.

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During the last decade, populations of bengalensis, and the Indian and
slender-billed vultures—Gyps indicus and Gyps tenuirostris, respectively
—have declined by more than 90 percent in India. Scientists believe that
the cause is infectious disease, though no one has identified the
pathogen.

Now new research by Peregrine Fund biologists show that at some sites in
Pakistan the birds are also disappearing rapidly. "We are losing up to one
third of the adult population each year—about three to seven times the
normal rate for a raptor population," says Watson. "At this rate
bengalensis is well on its way to extinction."

Vultures play an essential ecological role as garbage collectors and
recyclers. They rid the environment of carrion, which breed diseases—
including anthrax. In Africa, for example, vultures consume more than 70
percent of zebra, wildebeest and other hoofed animal carcasses—not
lions or hyenas.

"The Gyps vultures depend exclusively on livestock in India and Pakistan
—without them there would be an incredible number of dead animals
rotting over the countryside," says Munir Virani, a biologist with the
Peregrine Fund's Asian vulture crisis project.

Investigating the Disease

In the Changa Manga forest in Pakistan's Punjab province, researchers say
that their vulture study may be over—not because they have solved the
mystery of what has decimated the population, but because no more
vultures remain.

At Changa Manga the number of active nests has fallen
from 198 in 2001 to 49 in 2002 to just six in 2003—a decline of 97
percent, says Virani. Similar declines have been recorded at sites
throughout India, Nepal and Pakistan.



About nine species of vultures live in the Indian subcontinent, and each
has a specific ecological role. Packs of wild dogs and rats are slowly filling
the void left by bengalensis vultures.

In a remote forest region about ten miles from Chandigarh, India, in the
foothills of the Himalayas, researchers have just opened a Vulture Care
Center. There they will care for sick vultures and try to identify what's
killing these species.


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FEB 23/06 KARACHI PAKISTAN

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well thats not good at all, we could very well lose anything on the extinction list faster then originally predicted

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Most died of kidney failure, particularly those that gorged most heavily on
the contaminated meat. Oaks' team reported its findings a year ago in the
journal Nature. But skeptics still questioned whether diclofenac use could
be widespread enough to account for the rate at which the vultures were
dying.

But infectious diseases don't usually cause visceral gout, and the kidney
damage didn't look like anything normally caused by viruses or bacteria.
That's because infections cause white blood cells to rush to the site of the
infection, and Rideout and the other pathologists found little sign of the
type of inflammation this would cause.

"Here we were, witnessing one of the greatest bird die-offs in history, but
it was hard to get specimens."
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Officials at VRI said that cases were reported to the institute, were of new cattle diesease, pneumonia and crd, all related to respiratory system of the poultry bird.

Does anyone find this statement a bit suspicious considering the situation at hand?  That this new cattle diesease has very similar symptons to the H51 flu?

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New Castle and H5N1 are being mistaken for each other because there is an outbreak of both right now.  Since many people are just hearing of bird flu, they assume it is new castle disease...this is what I can tell from my readings over the past few days. 
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Your right, Newcastle's is a bad bird illness. Fatal I believe all the time.  I'd have to look it up to be sure.  Yes it is two different illnesses.
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either there was a typo or it really did suggest cattle and not castle
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I took it as a typo, but you know with the cattle in Ukraine, maybe it is cattle???

I don't think so, I think somebody wrote it and  who hadn't heard of Newcastles'

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Originally posted by siameselade siameselade wrote:

I took it as a typo, but you know with the cattle in Ukraine, maybe it is cattle???

I don't think so, I think somebody wrote it and  who hadn't heard of Newcastles'



I am persuaded that they meant to write Newcastles Disease.  There were a multitude of breakouts of a deadly illness in Cattle in India, so they have a new cattle disease, but in all cases, they issued an excuse for why all the cattle died and then stopped any additinal commentary in the press.  At least their excuses were not as silly as the excuses used in Central America.
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