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    Posted: May 26 2022 at 10:28pm

DJ, 

I did have time in the morning to combine breakfast with pandemic news...Since scenario's crashed-the pandemic far from over-I share my ideas/breakfast with this forum...

The growth advantage that BA.4/5 has over BA.2* is remarkable. In the UK (chosen because of consistent sequencing), the rel advantage is on the order of 15% per day, i.e. rel share doubles every 5 days. UK is estimated to hit 50% BA.4/5 share this week. 1https://cov-spectrum.org/explore/United%20Kingdom/AllSamples/Past2M/variants?variantQuery=BA.2*+%7C+BA.4*+%7C+BA.5*&variantQuery1=BA.4*+%7C+BA.5*+%7C+%28BA.2*+%26+12160A+%26+9866C+%26+%2827788T+%7C+27259A%29%29&analysisMode=CompareToBaseline&

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BA.4/5 are significantly fitter (~7%/day) than one of the fittest BA.2 daughter lineages: BA.2.12.1 In the US, BA.4/5 are increasing in share as expected for a fitter variant. This means: BA.4/5 are going to become dominant. I don't see any known variant as being competitive. 4/

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What astonishes me is how few mutations were necessary to produce this large growth advantage. S:452R on its own does not seem to provide any advantage to BA.2, it must be the other 2: S:486V and  S:Q493R reversion or alternatively some interaction (epistasis) between them. 2/

DJ In fact two points; BA.4/5 is taking over from BA.2.12.1 (now dominant in the US) and increasing....AND a few mutations can create a new fast spreading sub-variant. 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/pollution/preprint-association-between-air-pollution-and-covid-19-severity/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/pollution/preprint-association-between-air-pollution-and-covid-19-severity/

Chronic exposure to air pollution may contribute to severe outcomes after SARS-CoV-2 infection, particularly exposure to O3.

Among the 151,105 people with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in Ontario in 2020, we observed 8,630 hospital admissions, 1,912 ICU admissions and 2,137 deaths related to COVID-19. For each interquartile range increase in exposure to PM2.5, we estimated odds ratios of 1.06, 1.09 and 1.00  for hospital admission, ICU admission and death, respectively.

Preprint: Association between long-term exposure to ambient air pollution and COVID-19 severity: a prospective cohort study

I did not expect O3 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone would be that bad. Parts per Million-"fine dust" would have to do damage...

-[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-currently-circulating-around-is-unlike-former-strains-and-contains-new-mutations-despite-some-garbage-western-experts-claiming-that-they-are[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-currently-circulating-around-is-unlike-former-strains-and-contains-new-mutations-despite-some-garbage-western-experts-claiming-that-they-are not! DJ-From my non-expert view;

-When an old disease (like monkeypox, hepatitis) starts behaving "different" during a pandemic it most likely will be related to the pandemic...

-Maybe up to 1-in-8 people did get CoViD-infection...close to a billion cases...that will work out on how other diseases/immunity behaves...

-TMN has a link to Malaysia-increase of [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand,_foot,_and_mouth_disease[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand,_foot,_and_mouth_disease caused by an [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus ...

-So far experts often were surprised by developments....Even the most experienced immonologists, virologists etc. are now facing a spread of disease never seen before in human history !

-Most CoViD-cases most likele will (still) be in humans....but from deer to mice, rats it may be spreading in non-human hosts...

DJ, [url]https://bnonews.com/monkeypox/[/url] or https://bnonews.com/monkeypox/ now including suspected cases from Bolivia, Sudan....[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Multi-country_outbreak[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Multi-country_outbreak also now mentions cases in children, women...

"Media" going for a "mild gay disease" are not helping. Yes part of the spread may have been at (maybe unwise) gay-parties....but again-there is NO gay-virus ! If it is "mild" -very welcome to see limited damage, better still not get it...but it may be much to early to claim "it is mild" !

And why ignore the CoViD-pandemic background ???

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/preprint-a-possible-explanation-to-hepatitis-of-unknown-cause/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/preprint-a-possible-explanation-to-hepatitis-of-unknown-cause/

“Our preliminary results raised a possibility that infection by SARS-CoV-2 ORF1abVVVNASN variant might elicit an autoimmune T cell response via epitope mimicry and is associated with the outbreak of unknown hepatitis. We anticipated that these findings will alert the human societies to pay more attention to rare mutations beyond the spike proteins.”

Preprint: SARS-CoV-2 ORF1abA1061S potentiate autoreactive T cell responses via epitope mimicry: an explanation to hepatitis of unknown cause

DJ, A new form of (CoViD) denial is "an often NOT even detected "new" adeno-virus would cause hepatitis" when investigation is NOT looking for CoViD..."because it does not fit in with CoViD symptoms"....

Some twitter-problems...(I have to find a way-maybe indirect-to copy twitter news-without ruining this forum). 

Another coffee-stay safe !

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In general discussion I put "lists"....I do think the CoViD pandemic has to be related with hepatitis and monkeypox. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8txZgpLF4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8txZgpLF4 ;This week, Tim's looking at the latest global outbreak of monkeypox and discusses if we should be concerned about it, and if we're seeing signs of the symptoms in the ZOE Health Study app. He also discusses the current rates and recaps the differences between Omicron BA.1 and BA.2.

[url]https://covid.joinzoe.com/[/url] or https://covid.joinzoe.com/ DJ- ZOE is following widespread symptoms-so far most related to CoVid...but if monkeypox symptoms would spread the picture of reported symptoms would change. UK CoViD-cases going up in youn age <17 y/o and in Scotland-both indicating the present R0 of 1.0 for the UK may go up...1-in-37 now reporting symptoms. 

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/448-cases-of-monkeypox-now-in-25-countries-with-another-17-probable-cases-pending-test-results,-1086-suspected-cases-being-investigated-uk-leads-with[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/448-cases-of-monkeypox-now-in-25-countries-with-another-17-probable-cases-pending-test-results,-1086-suspected-cases-being-investigated-uk-leads-with 107 cases. 

DJ-If a disease starts behaving differently-with a pandemic background (like CoViD)-you have to ask what role the pandemic is playing. If [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/while-sars-cov-2-surges,-new-strains-of-pathogens-responsible-for-ebola,-monkey-pox,-legionnaires-disease,-lyme-disease,-etc-are-emerging[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/while-sars-cov-2-surges,-new-strains-of-pathogens-responsible-for-ebola,-monkey-pox,-legionnaires-disease,-lyme-disease,-etc-are-emerging other diseases-several-start increasing-that sign should be alarming ! 

U.S. COVID update: - New cases: 141,078 - Average: 110,515 (-698) - States reporting: 32/50 - In hospital: 26,080 (+180) - In ICU: 2,826 (+13) - New deaths: 424 - Average: 364 (-11) More data: https://charts.medriva.com/us

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table mentions less then 100,000 new US cases...






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BA.5 at around 79% now in Portugal! BA.4 still hasn't been detected. BA.2.12.1 has, but was still < 1%. https://insaflu.insa.pt/covid19/


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A look at trends has no data for Portugal....Still 74 monkeypox cases reported from Portugal (BA.5 and monkeypox both have an African link). Also Portugal has 11 cases of "new"hepatitis. (Is there a link with BA.4 ???)

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Josh I'd be really interested to know the statistics of whether the monkeypox people have had their Covid jabs. The reason I ask is that 2 of my cousins, both who are immuno compromised, have had every vaccine offered to them - which was plenty - and both developed shingles within a week of one of their jabs. One of them died 5 weeks later, and the other has shingles on the face, which by all accounts looks like these monkey pox cases. A specialist team from the hospital have swabbed the rash and concluded that it is shingles, not monkeypox, but what's interesting me is that since the vaccines were first offered, there has been a huge uptick in shingles cases. 

It's well documented now that the Covid vaccines damage a persons T cells and thus, their immune system, and as any medical doctor can tell you, shingles in an adult is an indicator that the immune system is compromised and so the Zoster Herpes virus (chickenpox) which lies dormant in 90% of us, has had the opportunity to reemerge. 

Can you find that info????

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KiwiMum, sorry to hear about your cousins....Did they get [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles#Prevention[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles#Prevention vaccinated against any kind of [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_zoster_virus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_zoster_virus ? The NL wikipedia-page has shingles increasing in 60+ y/o...with immunity getting weaker due to age. Also more spread in summer...

CoViD itself may be the "main push factor" decreasing general immunity...most likely more people did get CoViD then any vaccine....Just sharing my non-expert thoughts...[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/while-sars-cov-2-surges,-new-strains-of-pathogens-responsible-for-ebola,-monkey-pox,-legionnaires-disease,-lyme-disease,-etc-are-emerging[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/while-sars-cov-2-surges,-new-strains-of-pathogens-responsible-for-ebola,-monkey-pox,-legionnaires-disease,-lyme-disease,-etc-are-emerging has a list of diseases that are increasing....TMN links that with CoViD (and yes-I do think vaccines may provide som complications....but I do not have the knowledge to say much on that...maybe I will find some info on twitter...but I try to get a "helicopterview" the "big picture", I know a bit of history...have limited time to inform myself...). 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-summer-wave/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-summer-wave/ ; comparing CoViD/Monkeypox statistics...

DJ...we have a lot of viruses, bacteria etc. with us...our immunity is keeping them under control. But by now I would expect statistics on monkeypox cases being vaccinated against CoViD (and what vaccine they had...). Maybe the statistics are not (yet) that clear...Certainly UK, Spain, Portugal (all three with lots of monkeypox cases) should have statistics on CoViD-vaccines in those cases...(My impression-but nothing more then that-is that "party-people" may have lower then average vaccinations....for that matter we are in very early stages...). 

[url]https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/shingles[/url] or https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/shingles

Shingles (also called herpes zoster) is a painful skin rash caused by the reactivation of the chickenpox (varicella-zoster) virus in people who have previously had chickenpox. Shingles can occur at any age, but as people get older their chance of getting the disease increases, and complications also become more common. People with a weakened immune system are also at higher risk of shingles. Although rare, it is possible to have shingles more than once.

In England and Wales there are about 50,000 cases of shingles in people aged 70 or above every year, and it is estimated that about 50 of these cases result in death. Around one in four adults will experience shingles in their lifetime. In September 2013 the UK introduced a shingles vaccine, which is offered to people when they turn 70.

DJ, With England having 50,000 cases in the 70+ age group each year there HAVE TO BE statistics on CoViD-vaccines and shingles....(the link is from january 2019...). I look if I can see a study on "shingles and vaccines" without ending up in "vaccines against shingles"....

[url]https://www.cureus.com/articles/74357-oral-herpes-zoster-infection-following-covid-19-vaccination-a-report-of-five-cases[/url] or https://www.cureus.com/articles/74357-oral-herpes-zoster-infection-following-covid-19-vaccination-a-report-of-five-cases ;

Abstract

Recently, two cases of oral herpes zoster (HZ) following COVID-19 vaccines were reported. It was suggested that COVID-19 vaccine-related oral HZ cases might be missed or misdiagnosed as stomatitis or isolated oral herpes. In this report, five cases of oral HZ following COVID-19 vaccinations are presented. Four cases were observed on the hard palate (V2), and one case was found on the mandible (V3). Four patients did not receive any treatment for their oral HZ, but one patient also had skin reactions on her right orbit and ear and was thus treated with an antiviral drug. As these cases were seen during such a short period of time and in one practice, the relationship with the COVID-19 vaccination appears to be related.

DJ A november 10-2021 study....It is generally accepted that varicella zoster virus (VZV) rests latent in the trigeminal ganglia (TG) and spinal dorsal root ganglia (DRG). The reactivation of the VZV in the TG causes herpes zoster (HZ) in the lower, middle, or upper face, or even in the oral cavity, depending on the involvement of the ophthalmic division (V1), the maxillary division (V2), or the mandibular division (V3) of the trigeminal nerve.

Monkeypox [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypox_virus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypox_virus ; Monkeypox virus (MPV or MPXV) is a double-stranded DNA virus that causes monkeypox in humans and other animals. It belongs to the genus Orthopoxvirus in the family Poxviridae. It is one of the human orthopoxviruses that includes variola (VARV)cowpox (CPX), and vaccinia (VACV) viruses. It is not a direct ancestor to, nor a direct descendant of, the variola virus, which causes smallpox. Monkeypox disease is similar to smallpox, but with a milder rash and lower mortality rate.[1][2][3]

DJ So the virus behind monkeypox and shingles are "related"....could a latent dormant virus express itself now in a different way ? Will statistics for "shingles" decrease-while monkeypox numbers go up ? Virologists must be watching this....epidemiologists and medical staticians may find more...and not only on monkeypox...

CoViD itself can cause-in limited cases-skin problems. [url]https://www.lareb.nl/bijwerkingen-coronavaccins[/url] or https://www.lareb.nl/bijwerkingen-coronavaccins (in Dutch-google translate !) skin problems (shortly) after CoViD-vaccinations are very rare in NL....but the problems may be in the long term consequences...[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-published-study-by-researcher-from-mit-warns-about-possible-consequences-from-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-a-must-read-for-all[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/new-published-study-by-researcher-from-mit-warns-about-possible-consequences-from-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-a-must-read-for-all for that matter deserves another look....

DJ-I myself did get four vaccines, two Pfizer and two booster-Moderna....but I am "an old man"....willing to take some risks...

KiwiMum, I hope my writing does help answering a bit of your questions...

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Thanks Josh for the insight. I'll also keep my eyes peeled for info relating to Covid vaccines and Monkeypox. Both cousins mentioned had every jab they were offered, and the one still alive is about to have jab number 6 in the UK. It's complete madness if you ask me.

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I would have to think even more about getting yet another (booster) vaccination...Again; where are the nasal-new-vaccines ? Why is vaccines not part of a larger strategy...there is NO basic idea...just lies....on how to deal with this-most likely worsening-pandemic. 

[url]https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/south-america/superpower-bacteria-discovered-in-antarctica-20220526-p5aou4.html[/url] or https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/south-america/superpower-bacteria-discovered-in-antarctica-20220526-p5aou4.html 

and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/geologists-crack-open-830-million-year-old-crystal-potential-life-inside[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/geologists-crack-open-830-million-year-old-crystal-potential-life-inside 

Lots of "old diseases" could be waking up...CoViD may have weakened immunity...this is only the beginning ? 

The main reason why monkeypox cases did not go up is weekend; like with CoViD less testing and reporting....[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/uk-monkeypox-classified-as-an-airborne-high-consequence-infectious-disease/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/uk-monkeypox-classified-as-an-airborne-high-consequence-infectious-disease/ ;

The UK has classified Monkeypox as a high consequence airborne infectious disease In a recently updated document by the UKHSA, along with MERS, Nipah virus, SARS1 and Pneumonic plague.

DJ [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emergence-of-new-surge-of-crimean-congo-haemorrhagic-fever-in-iraq-and-sporadic-cases-elsewhere-worries-the-world-health-organization[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emergence-of-new-surge-of-crimean-congo-haemorrhagic-fever-in-iraq-and-sporadic-cases-elsewhere-worries-the-world-health-organization 

We may be in the exponential phase for CoViD-with people catching CoViD over and over-sometimes different sub-variants at the same time...but since the number of cases is that large; must be over 1 billion ! with also lots of spread in non-human hosts- all kinds of other diseases see a chance. With over 100 million refugees-and more to come-restart of international air travel-virus fly for free-how this health crisis can stop ????

Hospital cases are limited-for now. Excess deaths however are above "normal" in many countries. [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps and

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/preprint-covid-19-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-kids-aged-0-19-years-in-the-us/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/preprint-covid-19-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-kids-aged-0-19-years-in-the-us/ ;

Covid-19 is a leading cause of death in children and young people aged 0-19 years in the US, ranking #9 among all causes of deaths, #5 in disease related causes of deaths (excluding accidents, assault and suicide), and #1 in deaths caused by infectious / respiratory diseases.

Due to the impact of mitigations such as social distancing and our comparison of a single disease (Covid-19) to groups of causes such as deaths from pneumonia and influenza, these rankings are likely conservative lower bounds.

Preprint: Covid-19 is a leading cause of death in children and young people ages 0-19 years in the United States

Also [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/taiwan-acute-encephalitis-in-children-caused-by-covid-19/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/taiwan-acute-encephalitis-in-children-caused-by-covid-19/ ;

COVID-19 has caused acute encephalitis, a life-threatening complication, in a number of children in Taiwan, which local physicians believe may be due to factors such as an excessive immune response, immature blood-brain barrier, genes, and the environment.

Of the 22 severe COVID-19 cases of children aged 1-12 as of Sunday, 11 of the patients developed acute encephalitis, or inflammation of the brain, according to the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC).

For the 10 deaths linked to the disease in that age group since April 19, acute encephalitis was a factor in five of those, the CECC statistics showed.

Physicians have come up with different explanations for the high rate of acute encephalitis found in severe child COVID-19 cases, while the CECC is planning to investigate possible causes of what it described as an “increasing trend” that was also observed in Hong Kong.

FocusTaiwan.tw report

DJ-some facts being ignored;

-CoViD does do damage all over the body....from the brain to the liver...skin !

-A virus can stay in the body-even hide to show up later- so it may be easy to catch a virus but hard to get rid of...

-By now there will be lots of people with older CoViD-variants in their body. Catching newer subvariants can create new recombinations...

-CoViD in animals is missed in most cases...simply ignored...

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emerging-data-on-monkeypox-causes-u-s-cdc-to-raise-travel-alert-to-level-two-with-possibility-of-being-raised-to-level-3-in-days[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emerging-data-on-monkeypox-causes-u-s-cdc-to-raise-travel-alert-to-level-two-with-possibility-of-being-raised-to-level-3-in-days link to [url]https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/alert/monkeypox[/url] or https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/alert/monkeypox ;

Key points

  • Cases of monkeypox have been reported in Europe, North America, and Australia (see full list of countries below).  Some cases were reported among men who have sex with men. Some cases were also reported in people who live in the same household as an infected person.
  • None of these people reported having recently been in central or west African countries where monkeypox usually occurs, including the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Nigeria, among others.
  • Travelers should AVOID:
    • Close contact with sick people, including those with skin lesions or genital lesions.
    • Contact with dead or live wild animals such as small mammals including rodents (rats, squirrels) and non-human primates (monkeys, apes).

DJ Another link; [url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3556235/[/url] or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3556235/ ;

Here the susceptibility to aerosolization of the monkeypox virus (MPXV), associated with emerging zoonotic diseases, was studied using a 10.7 liter rotating chamber. This chamber was built to fit inside a Class three biological safety cabinet, specifically for studying airborne biosafety level three (BSL3) microorganisms. 

Airborne viruses were detected by culture and quantitative polymerase chain reaction (qPCR) after up to 90 hours of aging. Viral concentrations detected dropped by two logs for culture analysis and by one log for qPCR analysis within the first 18 hours of aging; viral concentrations were stable between 18 and 90 hours, suggesting a potential for the MPXV to retain infectivity in aerosols for more than 90 hours. 

The rotating chamber used in this study maintained viral particles airborne successfully for prolonged periods and could be used to study the susceptibility of other BSL3 microorganisms.

So monkeypox is believed to spread airborne...(within certain limits...). [url]https://twitter.com/sebpoule/status/1529300460322050048?s=20&t=9NsgJHjb2UGuBkM81fwUFw[/url] or https://twitter.com/sebpoule/status/1529300460322050048?s=20&t=9NsgJHjb2UGuBkM81fwUFw ;

#MonkeyPox #IDtwitter My patient with MonkeyPox suspicion is now confirmed by PCR. I can share with you some important details that I could not before. ➡️ The bottom line of this tweet will be; «We must have a high index of suspicion for ‘atypical’ MonkeyPox cases»
Monkeypox lesions take 2-3 weeks to heal. A person is contagious until the lesions are healed. Most people who don’t have paid sick days cannot go weeks without a paycheck If we don’t have emergency financial assistance for people with monkeypox, there will be no containing this

DJ, Monkeypox cases go up while also BA.4/BA.5 (Africa linked) is getting more dominant [url]https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.26.493539v1[/url] or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.26.493539v1 .

The detected and sequenced monkeypox virus has lots of mutations compared to the older West Africa variant;

-Did monkeypox mutate in a person that also had CoViD ?

-Did monkeypox patients get (mild/asymptomatic) CoViD earlier ? Again also were they vaccinated and with what ? That kind of info should be available !!!! 

It may be to early to draw conclusions-but NOT mentioning it may "increase worries". If "a certain vaccine" against CoViD would see "a lot of monkeypox cases" one could ask questions on that vaccine....DJ-Most likely a lot of monkey pox patients did NOT get any vaccine (against CoViD)...

For the US;

#COVID19 #VariantDashboard - #UnitedStates  TOP lineages (15-DAY TRENDS): 47.48% BA.2.12.1**, 28.38% BA.2, 4.82% BA.2.3, 4.68% BA.2.12, 4.07% BA.2.9,   2.95% BA.5/BA.4^^ ** S:L452Q; ^^ S:L452R/F486V Tracker (by location): http://tinyurl.com/mryj4uu7  #OmicronUpdates 05/29/22

DJ BA.4/5 is increasing worldwide...

🚨URGENT🚨: One of the most prestigious virology labs in the world, the ones who confirmed BA 2 was more pathogenic than BA 1, Sato Labs, released a new study that finds that the VOCs BA4/5 as well as BA 2.12.1 are more INFECTIOUS and PATHOGENIC over BA 2

statistics have their limits. A lot of countries simply stopped reporting CoViD cases...DIY/home-tests may fail in detecting new sub-variants. Hospitalcases do not have to increase-a lot of milder cases develop problems later on-never end up in hospital (some just die !!)....

So the "big picture" is "not good"....

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DJ, Not much time-to much news;

War;

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/flash-russian-foreign-minister-says-3rd-country-could-become-involved-in-ukraine-conflict[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/flash-russian-foreign-minister-says-3rd-country-could-become-involved-in-ukraine-conflict unclear what country is meant; could be Moldova, Poland joining Ukraine, could be Belarus joining Russia...may even mean US/UK escalating further this war with more weapons, intel etc. Intel could mean US/UK "guiding" an Ukraine missile towards a (pro)Russian target....

[url]https://southfront.org/4-nato-warships-arrive-in-finland-for-military-exercices/[/url] or https://southfront.org/4-nato-warships-arrive-in-finland-for-military-exercices/ and [url]https://southfront.org/erdogan-says-turkish-military-operation-will-target-syrias-tell-rifaat-manbij/[/url] or https://southfront.org/erdogan-says-turkish-military-operation-will-target-syrias-tell-rifaat-manbij/ Erdogan pushing up the price for Sweden, Finland getting into NATO. 

DJ-However the "big story"-very sad-is end of international order...UN, WHO etc. all are becoming "political"...the "illness" that first spread in the US, wearing a mask against CoViD had become political-now seems to go global....

Health, 

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table global Covid cases may still be decreasing-lots of countries stopped testing/reporting-still over 500,000 new cases per day. Real number between 2 and 3 million per day ? 

Kenya cases +115%, Brazil +104%, Botswana +95%, Mexico +59%, India +37%, Hong Kong +25%,  Israel +21% BA.4/5 are increasing worldwide....[url]https://deadline.com/2022/05/omicron-ba-4-ba-5-variants-increase-1235035960/[/url] or https://deadline.com/2022/05/omicron-ba-4-ba-5-variants-increase-1235035960/ due to mutations better in evading immunity...

[url]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/outbreaks-diseases-such-monkeypox-becoming-more-frequent-warns-who-2022-06-01/[/url] or https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/outbreaks-diseases-such-monkeypox-becoming-more-frequent-warns-who-2022-06-01/ and [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-sudden-outbreak-of-new-viral-disease-called-tomato-flu-or-tomato-fever-affecting-young-children-in-many-states-in-india[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-sudden-outbreak-of-new-viral-disease-called-tomato-flu-or-tomato-fever-affecting-young-children-in-many-states-in-india so other diseases on the increase...

Monkeypox cases [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/health-authorities-warns-that-monkeypox-could-be-spreading-silently--global-cases-now-700-with-thousands-under-investigations-in-32-countries[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/health-authorities-warns-that-monkeypox-could-be-spreading-silently--global-cases-now-700-with-thousands-under-investigations-in-32-countries is just one of the "new diseases"...

As the climate change contributes to rapidly changing weather conditions like drought, animals and human are changing their food-seeking behaviour. As a result, diseases that typically circulate in animals are increasingly jumping into humans, he said.


"Unfortunately, that ability to amplify that disease and move it on within our communities is increasing - so both disease emergence and disease amplification factors have increased."

DJ On top of that billion+ CoViD infections will have damaged immunity - lots of spread outside humans....

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/africa/uk-monkeypox-cannot-be-eradicated-by-vaccination-alone-due-to-animal-reservoirs/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/africa/uk-monkeypox-cannot-be-eradicated-by-vaccination-alone-due-to-animal-reservoirs/

“Monkeypox has a wide range of hosts, which has allowed it to maintain a reservoir… it therefore cannot be eradicated by human vaccination alone.”

Monkeypox has a wide range of hosts, which has allowed it to maintain a reservoir in wild animals while sporadically causing human disease. It therefore cannot be eradicated by human vaccination alone, although it may be possible to be controlled by targeted vaccination of humans (using a smallpox vaccine, which is approved for use against MPX) and culling animal reservoirs in certain circumstances.

The probability of infection would be considered moderate to high for individuals interacting with infected pets (notably rodents) and their contaminated environments.

DJ, New types of disease will show up in non-human hosts. Spread via urine/droppings...animals being eaten by other animals....

Climate;

[url]https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5[/url] or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 Hurricane moving towards Florida. We allready had lots of flooding, wildfires, drought and heat this year....

Time for a very strong coffee !

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I need a lot of very strong coffee to write down my idea of where we are now...."stupid did win" so what does it bring / 

-WAR;

-Putin had a meeting with African leaders, Russia will provide grain to Africa, Arab world. One of the problems was the west kicking most Russian banks out of SWIFT-international banking...so Africa also will buy Russian oil for Rubles...

-Biden was expecting EU limiting Russian oil-import could bring "low price" Russian oil for the US. But Russia has no interests in that...Russia decreased production, increased storage and refinery capacity...Also more oil/gas for non western countries. 

-EU sanctions on Greek (!!!!) tanker-insurance transporting that Russian oil has those tankers now being insured by Russian insurance companies...(no doubt India, China, Turkey also may join that market !)

-Older news is of course Argentina, Saudi Arabia talking of joining BRICS (Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa cooperation). Also a lot of western retail in Russia-being sold to Turkish investors...

-EU may buy oil-products from countries like Turkey, India...fooling themselves it is NOT made from Russian oil. Bloomberg made an estimate that western sanctions mean Russia making another 285 US$ billion extra in 2022. Production costs for Russian oil around 45US$, India buying it for around 70,-. Global market at 120 US$ p.b. ....

-A.o. Javelin anti-tank weapons NOT going to Ukraine but offered on the internet...So Europe may see a lot of heavy weapons in criminal hands...

The Ukraine war has the US seeking a balance between "international escalation" and collapse. Some people around Obama warned Russia had the "escalation-dominance" in Ukraine-the US should stay out of sinking to deep in that conflict (Obama pushed for the Syria front). Poland is running out of money and military hardware-housing over 3 million Ukraine refugees...The Polish economy is close to collapse...

DJ-The west went for escalation in Ukraine....sanctions war...Got itself in major troubles...I think the west has to accept some kind of "peace deal" that may at least some face...However the longer the west is waiting the higher the price it will be....

My guess is Turkey is maybe seeking cooperation with Iran, Syria, Russia to "deal" with the Kurds in Syria and Iraq. The west will think twice before punishing Turkey-they need Turkey to agree on Sweden, Finland joining NATO....Problem for the western neo-cons is most likely other countries (Hungary a.o.) may also have problems with that idea...Parliament elections in France may push Macron to "slow down" NATO expansion....In the US the republicans may show doubts...so Sweden, Finland joining NATO "can take some time"...

Turkey/Erdogan will use that time...Orban-Hungary will use that time....I do not know if NATO can survive this self-made crisis....

And maybe the "war" is the "good news".....

The pandemic is going even worse than I expected in a worst case scenario...

New variants of CoViD result in more long term damage, not stopped by immunity after earlier infection or present vaccination. Monkeypox cases will be over 1,000 as far as reported. Other diseases seem to be increasing as well...

Put on top of that a worsening climate situation. "Alex" -most likely not strong enough to become a cat.1 hurricane-will push warm water/air to the Arctic after crossing Florida. 

We are in a "slow crash"...however it can become a western collapse much faster then most people can imagine...The "west" is no longer in the "global driver seat"....

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Just from my point of view.....I have had both vaccines and one booster here in Denver, CO.  I had COVID at Christmas and again right now.  Both times I got really sick for about 2 weeks.  I have asthma so used my steroid inhaler, and multiple other home things to stay as healthy as possible.  Based on the fact that I am anti-flu vaccine, I think I will now become anti-COVID vaccine.  I am glad I got the initial ones, but now believe there is no really good way to fight this.  It evolves and changes and we can't keep up and we haven't tested the effects of all the vaccines!  So I fall in the middle...believe in the initial jabs but also believe they need to stop.  My two cents!

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Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

Just from my point of view.....I have had both vaccines and one booster here in Denver, CO.  I had COVID at Christmas and again right now.  Both times I got really sick for about 2 weeks.  I have asthma so used my steroid inhaler, and multiple other home things to stay as healthy as possible.  Based on the fact that I am anti-flu vaccine, I think I will now become anti-COVID vaccine.  I am glad I got the initial ones, but now believe there is no really good way to fight this.  It evolves and changes and we can't keep up and we haven't tested the effects of all the vaccines!  So I fall in the middle...believe in the initial jabs but also believe they need to stop.  My two cents!

 The current shots for Covid were developed for the Alpha strain 2 and a half years ago and now we're on Omicron which bears very little similarity to Alpha. Covid has evolved and will doubtless continue to do so, so those original shots are surely outdated.

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roni3470-I hope you do recover-without the long CoViD/long(er) term healthissues....

To many stories on "breakthrough" infections-people catching the virus (again) after vaccination. Indeed the present vaccines may have "very limited use" against BA.4/5 now getting dominant...(as far as I get the info). 

A remarkable view into the biology of this virus and just how fast new (sub)variants take over For flu - its on order of months/years when sweeps occurs With SARS-CoV-2, immunity & high transmissibility put pressure on the virus to shapeshift - and the most fit sweeps


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DJ, "CoViD" has gone "exponential"....There have been a lot of studies on nasal vaccines-hope they see mass production/use (very) soon...otherwise we are in lots of problems...

I did expect the exponential growth-if there is not enough limits to a virus it will go "wild"...I did not expect it would result in opening doors for all kind of other diseases on such a large scale...but again I am NOT any kind of expert-believe a "helicopter-view" is needed to balance (often very good) expert views...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/deaths/preprint-long-term-mortality-following-sars-cov-2-infection/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/deaths/preprint-long-term-mortality-following-sars-cov-2-infection/

People infected with SARS-COV-2 had more than three times the risk of dying over the following year compared with those who remained uninfected.

Short-term mortality (up to 5 weeks post-infection) was significantly higher among COVID-19 group than in the reference group.

For COVID-19 cases aged 60 years or older, increased mortality persisted until the end of the first year after infection, and was related to increased risk for cardiovascular, cancer, respiratory system diseases, and other causes of death.

Increased risk of death from SARS-CoV-2 is not limited to the acute illness: SARS-CoV-2 infection carries a substantially increased mortality in the following 12 months. This excess death mainly occurs in older people and is driven by broad array of causes of death.

Lancet preprint: Long-term mortality following SARS-CoV-2 infection: A national cohort study from Estonia

DJ; As far as I know there have been limited studies on the healtheffects of vaccines...Problem with the studies on corona-patients that did get vaccinated is it may be not that easy to detect what complaints/symptoms were the result of CoViD and what did the vaccines do....

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/cdc-at-least-two-distinct-monkeypox-outbreaks-underway/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/cdc-at-least-two-distinct-monkeypox-outbreaks-underway/ DJ-There must-by now-be some basic idea on the vaccination status of monkeypox patients ? A lot of them were on the "party-going-age" and may not have been vaccinated. Did they have (asymptomatic) CoViD ? I think the relation with high monkeypox numbers and CoViD is more then just timing !

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/who-monkeypox-may-be-airborne/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/who-monkeypox-may-be-airborne/ but some info also that the present monkeypoxvirus(ses ?) seem to mutate a lot faster-if spread increases so the mutationlevel will change-more mutations=more variants. 

So IF you want to stop the virus you have to limit the virus. And we are NOT doing that. I think "freedom" should NOT mean freedom for all kind of (latent) virusses/diseases to spread...With vaccines getting "much less effective" Non Pharma Intervention is the only other proven "defense-line"...but we are NOT using that so-more disease is on its way....

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/portugal/portugal-20-of-all-covid-19-pandemic-infections-have-occured-since-ba-5-was-first-reported/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/portugal/portugal-20-of-all-covid-19-pandemic-infections-have-occured-since-ba-5-was-first-reported/ and [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-ba-5-up-135-in-a-month/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-ba-5-up-135-in-a-month/  and

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-infections-rising-in-the-united-states-144,258-new-infections-in-the-last-24-hours-and-420-deaths-hospital-beds-fast-running-out-in-certain-s[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-infections-rising-in-the-united-states-144,258-new-infections-in-the-last-24-hours-and-420-deaths-hospital-beds-fast-running-out-in-certain-s tates

DJ-Like monkeypox the CoVid BA.5 has its roots in Africa...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/side-effects/sars-cov-2-can-infect-and-kill-different-immunity-cell-types-independently-of-ace2/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/side-effects/sars-cov-2-can-infect-and-kill-different-immunity-cell-types-independently-of-ace2/  DJ This is NOT (yet) ADE (there the immunesystem SPREADS the disease !)  but CoViD seem to "destroy" (at least part of) immunity....in that way opening doors to all kinds of other diseases..

and 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/sars-cov-2-infection-and-persistence-throughout-the-human-body-and-brain/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/sars-cov-2-infection-and-persistence-throughout-the-human-body-and-brain/ The CoViD variants-once in a host-may be hard to get rid of. Some people had different CoViD variants in different organs...(and may have seen some spread via stool-while "nose/mouth swabs-testing" did not detect any virus...(New variants may evade some testing anyway. A lot of at-home-tests look for only three segments of the virus-if one or more of those segments are missing the test can not detect the virus). 

DJ-My idea on the "healthcrisis"? To be honest is getting very pessimistic....we may have a few effective-on the longer term-tools;

-NPI; in this case long term limiting social contacts, reducing airtravel to the minimum....lockdowns/(better) testing...

-Sewage testing can be increased-both on locations and on sort of diseases/variants

-Nasal vaccines can be of use...maybe some effective anti-virals may have use..

-International cooperation is urgent ! [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-chinese-scientists-identify-new-sars-cov-2-gamma-variants-in-shandong-relaxation-of-lockdown-is-due-to-failed-zero-covid-policies-not-success[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-chinese-scientists-identify-new-sars-cov-2-gamma-variants-in-shandong-relaxation-of-lockdown-is-due-to-failed-zero-covid-policies-not-success 

We need to know what is happening in China...in Africa, Latin America...sharing of info is vital ! 

For now the virus is winning-giving room for also lots of other diseases. Without trying to be dramatic; if we do not STOP it it will kill us...

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Part 2, 

A few links;

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-bilderberg-does-china-realizes-chessboard-sucks[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-bilderberg-does-china-realizes-chessboard-sucks 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-beyond-day-100-breaking-resistance-deep-operation-a-new-country.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-beyond-day-100-breaking-resistance-deep-operation-a-new-country.html 

DJ-Ukraine is only part of a much larger conflict between "the west" and-basiccally "the rest"....but the "west does not even want to know that"....

-Ukraine is losing the war against Russia-had no real chance. Now the west is pushing for "talks" with some hardliners (US,UK, Poland) also pushing for more war, escalation...

Ukraine may go for a false flag-shooting missiles on Poland, Romania, Moldova trying to pull them-and if possible NATO-into the war with Russia. Russia considers itself allready to be fighting NATO in Ukraine....We should NOT be in this scenario !!!

I do not think both Obama or Trump would have "moved towards provocation/escalation"...Biden may be seen as "unfit" for the job in lots of countries....It is not honest to put all the blame on biden...the EU should and could have stopped this war...bojo/UK  has a "Churchill-syndrome" , wants to be a "great war-leader" that neede a war....Napoleon-Macron in France also did not help...

There were Minsk-agreements (twice !!!) both broken by Ukraine and the west accepted that...Ukraine still is shelling/killing Russians in the east of Ukraine...the secret police picking up "pro-Russians" in the Kiev-controlled area...Still the west calls the fascist Kiev-regime a "democracy"....The present rulers in Ukraine do NOT have much support (any longer) in Ukraine...Zelensky did get elected to END the war-not to escalate it...

So I do not see room for talks any longer...I expect Russia wants to send a very clear signal; most of the east and south of Ukraine will be part of Russia (again-MoA-map). Under the czars Ukraine WAS part of Russia...Lenin did give "Ukraine an independent status" within the Soviet Union-one of the 15 member states. (Finland was allowed to go its own way-after a civil war-but was part of Russia till 1917...)

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-tells-sweden-stop-wasting-natos-time-over-pointless-nato-bid[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-tells-sweden-stop-wasting-natos-time-over-pointless-nato-bid Turkey now did get in a power-position...and will use that till the max ! (Maybe that limit could be NATO kicking Turkey out...but that would be the end of NATO...). In "exchange" for Finland and Sweden joining NATO a.o. Turkey wants to "deal" with the Kurds...most likely ALL of them...both in Turkey and in Syria and Iraq. For that goal Turkey may work with Iran and Syria....replacing the US/Israel-Kurdish alliance with a Turkish/Iranian one....kicking the US out of the Middle East....

Russia was a longer term ally of the Kurds (part of it was cold-war related; most Kurds live in NATO-Turkey, but the PKK-and some other Kurdish groups had also political views that fitted in the Soviet ideology...). 

The outcome of the US$ as a weapon, sanctionswar from the west is that west is getting marginalized...Russia, India, China doing more trade with Africa, Latin America...

DJ-Before starting a conflict one should have "a view of the battlefields"....the "west" does keep failing here...An elite having shares in "war/weapons production" is of course making a lot of money...(just like big-pharma shareholders were allowed to profit from the present healthcrisis). But that on its own does not explain the absurdity that after military disasters in Iraq, Afghanistan the US/NATO now did become the main factor in a war (in Ukraine most) with Russia....

Western weapons/training do "not do well" in Ukraine..."we" the west, are running out of weapons and basics for more weapon-production (materials but also some micro-chips has to come from countries we are now almost at war with...). 

The idea of an EU boycotting Russian oil but buying "oil-products" made from Russian oil in India, Turkey is "absurd" ! Insane ! Destroying the EU economy...giving Asia (low energy/labor costs) is the outcome of EU "leaders/destroyers" that seem to be unable to understand what they are doing...

Fiat-currency is allready seeing inflation...One Euro now is less then 90% of its value one year ago....hyperinflation may be around the corner...What if a dollar or Euro early 2023 is only 10% or less of its 2021 value ????Most of the "west" population ending up in poverty...

Social unrest will go up with more diseases spreading, trillions spent on a war "we" can NOT win ! A housing/healthcare crisis as the outcome of "low taxes for the rich neo-liberalism"...Again 1776, 1789 (US/French revolution) will repeat itself....

A democracy only can function if representatives of the people work for the people....

But "the powers that be" rather may go for nuclear war....I need another coffee...a strong one...stay safe&sane ! 

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Just some ideas/links-it is impossible to follow all of the stories in detail; 

War,

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mexican-presidents-absence-summit-americas-embarrassment-white-house[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mexican-presidents-absence-summit-americas-embarrassment-white-house

There's been fierce debate over the list of invitees for weeks, but the exclusion of leaders from Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela - all leftist-governed nations known for running afoul of US foreign policy - was the final straw for Mexico.

"There cannot be a summit if all countries are not invited," López Obrador told a press conference. He said Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard will go in his place. "Or there can be one, but that is to continue with all politics of interventionism," he added, also underscoring that Biden is "not respecting these countries’ sovereignty, their independence" in not inviting them.

Joining Mexico's criticism of the summit were Bolivia, Guatemala, Honduras, and Antigua and Barbuda - who have affirmed their leaders will not be in attendance at the summit.

DJ, The US should not "change" their foreign policy-to should start to have one.....OPEC+ (including Saudi Arabia) finished with the US....KSA/Argentina thinking of joining BRICS....

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/some-other-peoples-thoughts-on-the-us-ukraine-and-europe.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/some-other-peoples-thoughts-on-the-us-ukraine-and-europe.html

Now, as the horse is out of the barn, we should not close its door, says Münchau, but offer something that woos the horse to voluntarily come back in:

Unless we cut a deal with Putin, with the removal of sanctions as a component, I see a danger of the world becoming subject to two trading blocs: the west and the rest. Supply chains will be reorganised to stay within them. Russia’s energy, wheat, metals, and rare earths will still be consumed, but not here. We keep the Big Macs.

I am not sure the west is ready to confront the consequences of its actions: persistent inflation, reduced industrial output, lower growth, and higher unemployment. To me, economic sanctions look like the last hurrah of a dysfunctional concept known as the west. The Ukraine war is a catalyst of massive de-globalisation.

Europe instead is discussing how to best burn its barn down.

DJ, Insanity is not a good basis for politics....."the west" is at the end of its power-trying to hang on to it in the only way they know; terror....That is only making matters worse....

In my opinion the "west" will be split up in many parts; Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea will "go for trade" with China and its allies....Europe will see old lines returning. Eastern Europe can not escape from being close to Russia...Turkey wants to increase its role/rule in SE Europe....I hope/expect German rearmament will stop in time...1914-1918, 1939-1945 should not be repeated....Europe can be a "hub" for EurAsian/African and (Latin) American trade....but not on a neo-colonial basis...and only with wiser leaders...

But if the EU/UK/US want to stay in conflict modus they will be marginalized high speed...fiat-currency is NOT a basis for "strength"....

Pandemics,

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-cdc-advises-travellers-to-wear-a-mask/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-cdc-advises-travellers-to-wear-a-mask/

The US CDC has amended its advice for travellers for Monkeypox, just one week after its last revision. The latest advice recommends wearing a facemask – “Wear a mask. Wearing a mask can help protect you from many diseases, including Monkeypox.”

It is probably now just a matter of days before the World Health Organisation declares Monkeypox a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, or PHEIC.

DJ, I still think monkeypox and other diseases (CJD ???) may somehow be related to CoViD(vaccines)...Lots of diseases now behaving in an unusual way with BA.5 CoViD numbers going up again has to be related...

Wow. #Covid19 wastewater monitoring in the U.S. by https://biobot.io/data/ is showing that the current level of #SARSCoV2 viral concentration is ~800 copies/mL: on par with peaks of the initial spring '20, fall/winter '20/'21 & summer '21 waves. 4x MORE than 2021 spring wave!

and 








Single case report. “This case appears to confirm the concerns that the CD4+ T-cell depletion associated with COVID-19 may promote the development of active tuberculosis from latent infection much like HIV does.”

From China; 

Chinese authorities urge residents of a city bordering North Korea to close their windows on days with southerly winds. Residents suspect authorities are considering the possibility that the Covid virus is being carried through the air from North Korea

DJ-So will "masks" be a "new normal" ? Massive illness destroy societies ? I hope not !

Climate collapse,

[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html

Greenhouse gas levels are very high and there are many further indications that a huge temperature rise could take place over the next few years. 

Cataclysmic alignment of El Niño and sunspots

The trigger for such a huge rise could be a cataclysmic alignment of the upcoming El Niño with a high number of sunspots, which look set to reach maximum impact around July 2025.

DJ The "North Pole" is becoming part of the Atlantic Ocean....within years most of the ice may be gone there....

Of course pandemics, climate change, wars and "human interactions" are related....We are on a global Titanic fighting over who may get to the life rafts-destroying those life rafts...and still claim to be "homo sapiens" ; intelligent apes....

Time for a very strong coffee ! Hope all the info is way to pessimistic....stay safe&sane !

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DJ, 

Making my mind up-again-on "the world we live in"...politics...politics on the pandemic showing the same mistakes as in international affairs. I do blame biden for making major mistakes in strategy in both fields-however other leaders have their own responsibility-repeating mistakes is "just as bad" (or maybe even worse...). 

"Friendship is telling you you are making a mistake when you make a mistake". 

Under trump at least there was "warpspeed"vaccine development. Biden did push vaccinations but those vaccinated no longer would need masks...even when it was clear that vaccines do NOT stop (enough) getting infected and spreading the virus...The US did not get that many people vaccinated-vaccines, masks, became political statements....

I think of Spanish Flu photo's even a cat wearing a mask in 1918 ! 

The war in Ukraine could and should have been avoided. I blame biden for provoking and escalating that war....Most likely that war now has over 100,000 people killed-90% of them Ukrainian...getting killed by Russian artillery because bojo, biden tells zelensky to keep fighting even with Russian air superiority....

Political insanity by sociopathic criminal "leaders" leading us towards destruction. 

Of course this insanity comes on top of climate destruction and "fiat currency"; creating money out of thin air...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXLde0bjGUI[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXLde0bjGUI military summary giving daily updates on the war. Ukraine top military want to pull Ukraine forces out of Donbas...Other sources claiming Ukraine top-military talking with Russia about a cease fire - and getting rid of a criminal political elite - hopefully stopping that "elite" from going to their Swiss villa's bought from western aid...[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/09/millions-cant-pay-energy-bills-urgent-expenses-inflation-dents-households[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/09/millions-cant-pay-energy-bills-urgent-expenses-inflation-dents-households

The high inflation is now also affecting middle-income households in the Netherlands as more and more families struggle to pay their energy bills, buy food, and refuel their cars without dipping into their savings.

Central planning office CPB reported on Thursday that 1.2 million households would face financial problems if the energy- and fuel prices stay this high or increase even further. That is about 15 percent of all Dutch households. About a quarter of households don't have enough savings to get them through more than three months with extra costs, the CPB said. 

DJ-But NL spent 130 million on sending drones to Ukraine...must have spent billions on a corrupt fascist Kiev regime...

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/07/weekly-coronavirus-infections-jump-33-percent-first-rise-months[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/07/weekly-coronavirus-infections-jump-33-percent-first-rise-months

Some 9,459 people tested positive for coronavirus in the Netherlands during the seven-day period ending on Tuesday. That was 33 percent more than the previous week. It was the first weekly increase reported by the public health institute since the beginning of March.

The number of positive tests rose in every age demographic except for children up through the age of 12. The RIVM said the largest increase was among people aged 13 to 29.


There was also a 31 percent increase in the number of people tested last week. Some 13,084 people visited the GGD for a test. That returned back to the level where it was in mid-May.

Based on testing figures, the basic reproduction (R) value rose to 0.99, indicating that 100 people contagious with the virus on May 19 infected 99 others. When the R-value is at 1.00, it suggests that roughly the same number of infections will continue to occur. If the figure rises higher, it indicates that infections will rise higher.


At the same time, the number of virus particles found in sewage during the last week of May fell by 8.7 percent compared to the previous week. However, that began to rise again as May was brought to a close. Sewage samples should a rapid increase in particles of the Omicron sub-variants BA.5 and BA.2.12.1. “However, it is currently very unclear which Omicron sub-variant is spreading fastest and will become dominant,” the RIVM said.

Hospitals in the Netherlands were treating 361 patients with Covid-19 on Tuesday, about 3.5 percent more than a week earlier, figures from the LCPS showed. The patient total includes 21 people in intensive care units, a figure which rose by two since last Tuesday.

The other 340 patients were in regular care wards. That reflected an increase of ten in a week.

Preliminary data from the RIVM showed that Covid-19 hospitalizations fell by over 20 percent during the preceding seven days. At least 128 people were hospitalized with the disease, including 14 sent to intensive care units. Last week, the RIVM said 154 people were admitted with Covid-19 in preliminary data, which rose to 167 in finalized data

DJ Sick-leave in NL first quarter of 2022 was a record 6,3%   [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps excess mortality was not above 2% the "norm" ...point with statistics is "what should be the norm/baseline"? Also long CoViD (10-25% of infections) is reflected in extra care needed, sick leave...

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top A very high 102 countries report an increase of cases-with lots of countries/states simply not reporting cases any longer....47 countries report increase of CoViD death numbers. [url]https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time[/url] or https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time also self-reported UK cases going up again...

DJ; Wars and pandemics are "very old"...history is full of both. Combining them is a proven mass killer...The Romans had to deal with "climate change"; rising sealevel creating flooding in low lying area's...the last ice-age was not that far away...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland had given room to the North Sea some 6.500/6.000 years before the Romans came here...

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[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/denmark-ba-5-sequences-up-by-6-5-in-one-week/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/denmark-ba-5-sequences-up-by-6-5-in-one-week/

The latest SARS-CoV-2 sequencing figures from Denmark show a marked increase for Omicron subvariant BA.5 (shown in red), which is up by 6.54% in one week, from 10.34% to 16.88%.

The Omicron subvariant BA.2.12.1 (shown in pink) has also seen a rise, from 10.11 % last week to 12.66% this week.  BA.2 and BA.2.9 numbers are now starting to fall.

DJ From twitter Canada and South Africa "show" BA.4 would be increasing on BA.5....but Canada did not do much sequencing-the general idea is BA.5 is becoming the dominant new Variant of Concern (VOC) resulting in a summer wave...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/uk-18-more-children-diagnosed-with-sudden-onset-hepatitis-total-now-240/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/uk-18-more-children-diagnosed-with-sudden-onset-hepatitis-total-now-240/

“Active investigations have identified a further 18 confirmed cases since the last update on 27 May, bringing the total number of cases in the UK to 240, as of 7 June.”

The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) is continuing to investigate and confirm cases of sudden onset hepatitis in children aged 10 and under that have been identified since January 2022.

DJ there were attempts to NOT link these hepatitis cases with CoViD...(but some adeno-virus often NOT even detected...). 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-we-dont-know-the-efficacy-of-any-of-these-monkeypox-vaccines/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-we-dont-know-the-efficacy-of-any-of-these-monkeypox-vaccines/

“How well MVA really protects humans from monkeypox is uncertain. The license for MVA in Canada and the United States is based on animal studies, where it was shown to protect macaques and prairie dogs, plus data in humans showing a strong antibody response.”

“A pair of DRC studies vaccinated 1600 health care workers with one of two MVA formulations and found no monkeypox cases in each 2-year study period. But there were no control groups, and one vaccinated health care worker did get monkeypox half a year later. “The truth is, we don’t know the efficacy of any of these monkeypox vaccines,” says Ira Longini, a biostatistician at the University of Florida who is advising WHO.”

Science Magazine: As monkeypox threat grows, scientists debate best vaccine strategy

DJ CDC now advising masks against monkeypox...vaccines against a high speed spreading/mutating virus....that "strategy" did not work for CoViD because it did not get a chance. When I look at [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak still the story is "spread via gay men"...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Misinformation[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Misinformation DJ-The best answer on misinformation is good information....

With the CoViD-pandemic as a background monkeypox behaving this different has to have a relation with CoViD. At least that is making sense to me...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory with over 1,300 confirmed cases by now it should be possible to tell more on vaccination status of those confirmed cases...Why is this not happening ? 

Most cases did not get the pox-vaccination in use till the early 70's in most countries (military use often a little longer-1980 ?). My idea is a lot of people now with confirmed monkeypox also did NOT get CoViD vaccines-but that speculation is based on the idea that a lot younger "party-people" did not take this pandemic serious....

So I do NOT think CoViD-vaccines did play a role in the increase of monkeypox. But did a lot of the confirmed monkeypox cases have a decrease of immunity from (mild/asymptomatic) CoViD ? That would make sense to me...however also would be alarming !

With over most likely a billion CoViD cases-in 7,8 billion people- is our "bio-defense" against other diseases under pressure ? [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-112-new-confirmed-new-cases-of-monkeypox-globally-in-the-last-24-hours-bringing-total-to-1350-who-warns-of-real-risk[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-112-new-confirmed-new-cases-of-monkeypox-globally-in-the-last-24-hours-bringing-total-to-1350-who-warns-of-real-risk has the story of a US man seeking help in Mexico to avoid social stigma-then fled the hospital and returned to the US...Linking a virus to "gay sex"  was very unwise...So far in the west monkeypox cases seem to be mild-only a few ending up in hospital...The problem however is in the many questions still open; How did the virus change this much ? How will it further develop ? 

Of course co-infection of CoViD and monkeypox can result in more severe disease...Are there more surprisis on their way then monkeypox and hepatitis, MIS? YES !!!

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-swedish-researchers-discover-new-fast-evolving-betacoronavirus-called-the-grimso-virus-in-rodents-and-warn-that-the-virus-could-be-a-threat-t[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-swedish-researchers-discover-new-fast-evolving-betacoronavirus-called-the-grimso-virus-in-rodents-and-warn-that-the-virus-could-be-a-threat-t o humans...

DJ-I do not know what to think of this story...YES corona virusses are widespread in lots of animals. YES I think "the way some people live" (flying a lot=spreading diseases around the globe. Lots of (close) contacts) does increase risks...airpolution, climate collapse worsen risks...Better monitoring may stop new diseases from becoming a major problem....

We HAVE to change the way a few of us live...most people do NOT fly that often-or long distance...Health is fragile...learning the hard way !

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DJ,

A look at outbreak [url]https://outbreak.info/situation-reports[/url] or https://outbreak.info/situation-reports splitting up Omicronin two different groups. B.1.1.529 (with 168 subvariants) and BA.2 with 77 subvariants.

BA.4 has subvariants BA.4.1, BA.4.1.1 and BA.4.1.2...BA.5 has by now already 7 subvariants (5.1, 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.3, 5.3.1, 5.4, 5.5). All indications are BA.5 is "a major problem"...[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/uk/uk-summer-covid-19-wave-kicks-off/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/uk/uk-summer-covid-19-wave-kicks-off/ ;

🧵THREAD: a new wave has started in England (and likely about to or has in rest of UK) TLDR: this will be 3rd wave within 6 months. Long covid an increasing issue - particularly in overexposed professions. We don't need a UK ventilator challenge we need a ventilation one! 1/xx

and [url]https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time[/url] or https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/portugal/portugal-daily-covid-19-deaths-now-exceeding-those-of-last-winter-wave/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/portugal/portugal-daily-covid-19-deaths-now-exceeding-those-of-last-winter-wave/

Portugal’s BA.5 wave is showing just how difficult things might get in Europe over the next few months, as Covid-19 cases and deaths are now close to, or have already exceeded, those of the winter wave of 2021/2022. The new subvariant may be far more dangerous than anticipated.

DJ A look at worldometers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top with very limited testing cases worldwide -7%...however Europe cases already +3%, North America +0,9%, South America +11%, Africa +5%. Asia cases -19% however India cases +92%...

Global deaths -4%. However in Asia it is +6%, South America +33%, Africa +21%, Oceania +4%....North America -11%, Europe -17% may be related to how statistics may work. CoViD deaths often seen as within 4 weeks after a positive test....So if you do not test people do not die from CoViD...cynical....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/warning-sars-cov-2-ba-5-variant-has-evolved-to-be-worsethan-alpha-or-delta-variants,-it-utilizes-the-tmprss2-more-effectively-expect-increased-death-r[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/warning-sars-cov-2-ba-5-variant-has-evolved-to-be-worsethan-alpha-or-delta-variants,-it-utilizes-the-tmprss2-more-effectively-expect-increased-death-r ates! : "We can expect to be dealing with a new variant that is far worse then airborne HIV"

DJ, I hope TMN is wrong there...however I do think hepatitis, monkeypox has to be related to (asymptomatic) CoViD destroying immunity. I would like to see statistics on vaccinations (against CoViD) in monkeypox cases but it may show most of the monkeypox cases were in unvaccinated....(most monkeypox cases are in young party goers-not known for high level of vaccination). 

A TMN link [url]https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-delta-variant-mutations-coronavirus-life-cycle-2021[/url] or https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-delta-variant-mutations-coronavirus-life-cycle-2021 on how mutations work...The TMN (very cynical) expects regional differences. BA.2.12.1 will kill a lot of us-humans-in East Asia. BA.4 (and most) BA.5 will kill a lot of us in South Asia, Europe, the America's...By fall/autumn Lambda sub-variants now developing in China, BE.1, BF.1 will go for another global wave...

DJ-Of course we should stop this by limiting (air)travel ! But we do not ! 

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part 2,

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPIETVElKOw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPIETVElKOw Alexander Mercouris; As Russia Gains Ground in Donbass West Intelligence Admits Ukraine Massively Outgunned, Suffering Heavy Losses & Desertions, Rouble Again Strengthens, Criticism of Sanctions Grows News Topic 521 The West and the rest The world's economic inter-dependencies are manifold and mutual. Sanctions have large network effects. https://www.eurointelligence.com/colu...

Referring to [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/washington-starts-blame-game-over-defeat-in-ukraine.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/washington-starts-blame-game-over-defeat-in-ukraine.html 

The "west", biden, pushed for war on a basis of info that was very wrong to start with. The idea seems to have been (both in the US, EU) that sanctions and weapons would cause a collapse of the political elite in Russia. Fact is; sanctions backfired-do damage that - isolated !!! - "west" much more then they hurt Russia. The "west" did send so much weapons into Ukraine it is running out of weapons themselves...with production of new weapons needing import of basics from Russia, China....

Like in the CoViD-pandemic the "biden-war"-strategy was based on lies....[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/three-us-military-aircraft-crash-southern-california-within-one-week[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/three-us-military-aircraft-crash-southern-california-within-one-week ; And according to Defense News, more than half the Navy's aircraft are grounded because there's not enough money to fix them. The Air Force has a similar issue. Only 71.5% of the service's fleet is mission ready. America's aging military appears to have reliability issues, even though it outspends the entire world. It's unknown whether the three aircraft experienced mechanical problems. 

DJ, In 2019 there were some claims the top 3 of "best prepared countries for a pandemic" were the US, UK, NL all three turned into disaster zones...with false statistics and corrupt lying "leaders/elite"...This pandemic is gone the way "climate change" [url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html did go....








NEW:  Monkeypox #MPX Technical Briefing 1 ⤵️ • 99% (151/152) MPX cases in gay/bi & other men who have sex with men • Only 3 female cases • Majority of transmission in UK • Good news ✅ early signs cases levelling off (need a week to be sure due to reporting delays)

So can we trust governments any longer ? 

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/10/mh17-trial-end-defense-accuses-prosecutor-tunnel-vision-family-ready-closure[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/10/mh17-trial-end-defense-accuses-prosecutor-tunnel-vision-family-ready-closure ;Two years, three months, and one day after the start of the lawsuit around the downing of flight MH17, Friday is the last day of the substantive treatment of the massive trial. The lawyers representing Oleg Pulatov, the only suspect who hired someone to defend him, had the last chance to give their views on the case. They believe that the Russian should be acquitted and accuse the prosecution of "tunnel vision" and an "inability to see how risky it is to ignore the red flags in one's own story."

DJ Most-if not all-of the "evidence" comes from Ukraine SBU (secret police/gestapo-style)...both Russia and Malaysia were excluded...(Russians are NOT saints, but on this basis -also stories from a Swiss investigator claiming OLD BUK-missiles were used-not in use by Russia-I think Ukraine may have shot down a civilian airplane that should not have been flying there...killing 298 passengers/crew 198 of them Dutch...)

Are governments open and honest on (CoViD) vaccines ? Or is it "another profit oppertunity" like wars make some people very rich ? 

How good are the vaccines and tests now ? BA.5 may be evading vaccines/immunity and tests ? 

BA.4/5 (L452R) at 54% in Amsterdam at the end of last week and the beginning of this week! Since, from the 30th of May, 13 out of 17 of L452R positive samples were already BA.5, I think it's not unlikely that BA.5 is dominant on its own right now.

DJ NL-CDC still is not seperating BA.4 from BA.5....An Amsterdam hospital is doing that and finds out BA.5 is getting dominat in NL high speed (like it does in the UK, DK)...With governments frustrating testing, failing to gat ANY strategy...who are governments working for ? They are not only destroying the economies by an avoidable insane NATO expension war...they also destroy public health !

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coffee again ! DJ-One of the basic ideas in the western political elite before CoViD-19 showed up was; infectious diseases are low risk. By monitoring, early intervention it could be controlled and stopped...

That basic idea was correct...only nobody stopped the CoViD-virus in time...

One of my questions is where and when CoViD-19 started. The official "Wuhan story" is not very clear on "when"...october 2019 Wuhan (international) military games was a spread moment ? But blood/sewage samples in several places around the globe did show virus remains even going back to earlier in 2019...[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/origins/research-evidence-of-sars-cov-2-before-wuhan-outbreak-in-2019/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/origins/research-evidence-of-sars-cov-2-before-wuhan-outbreak-in-2019/ for that matter may be of interest...

Earlier outbreaks would mean the virus (in that area) did see more mutations/variants...BA.5 is yet another African variant (Variant Of Concern). 

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-zerocovid-strategies-in-china-fails-as-authorities-warns-of-explosive-surges-in-both-beijing-and-shanghai-due-to-emergence-of-new-sars-cov-2-[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-zerocovid-strategies-in-china-fails-as-authorities-warns-of-explosive-surges-in-both-beijing-and-shanghai-due-to-emergence-of-new-sars-cov-2- variants.  (TMN)

DJ-The story claims China now is dealing with some new corona variants (a.o. in Shanghai, Bejing) that were missed by most used PCR-tests...

Three different groups;

-BA.2 sub-variant

-third generation Lambda variant

-new reassortent unclear variant

DJ; PCR-test failing to detect cases will not only be a Chinese problem (at least they are still testing large scale !!!). All over the world by now there must be "a very high lot" of sub-variants of CoViD spreading and (co)-infecting people/hosts, resulting in yet newer variants....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/crimean-congo-hemorrhagic-fever-surge-continues-in-iraq-with-disease-now-spreading-as-far-as-the-kurdistan-regions-162-confirmed-cases,-27-deaths-and-[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/crimean-congo-hemorrhagic-fever-surge-continues-in-iraq-with-disease-now-spreading-as-far-as-the-kurdistan-regions-162-confirmed-cases,-27-deaths-and- 348 suspected cases. 

DJ The damage CoVidD (Corona Viral Disease) does to our immunity may open doors to all kinds of other infections, from hepatitis to monkeypox. Refusing to look at CoViD (vaccination) history only makes matters worse....[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean%E2%80%93Congo_hemorrhagic_fever[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean%E2%80%93Congo_hemorrhagic_fever

Crimean–Congo hemorrhagic fever (CCHF) is a viral disease.[1] Symptoms of CCHF may include fever, muscle pains, headache, vomiting, diarrhea, and bleeding into the skin.[1] Onset of symptoms is less than two weeks following exposure.[1] Complications may include liver failure.[1] In those who survive, recovery generally occurs around two weeks after onset.[1]

The CCHF virus is typically spread by tick bites or close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected persons or animals.[1] Groups that are at high risk of infection are farmers and those who work in slaughterhouses.[1] The virus can also spread between people via body fluids.[1] Diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies, the virus's RNA, or viral proteins (antigens).[1] It is a type of viral hemorrhagic fever.

DJ-The TMN articla claim spread in most Middle East countries and one case in Malaysia (in travellink from Iraq). Laboratories supposed to do the viral detection and sequencing may be overstretched by far....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/cases-of-hepatitis-in-children-of-unknown-aetiology-continues-to-increase-globally-but-no-updated-research-data-from-the-who,-us-cdc-or-us-nih-to-date[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/cases-of-hepatitis-in-children-of-unknown-aetiology-continues-to-increase-globally-but-no-updated-research-data-from-the-who,-us-cdc-or-us-nih-to-date WHO now did see over 700 cases reported from 34 countries. First the claim was "adenovirus 41" did cause the hepatitis...only so far that virus was not linked to hepatitis. (And as far as I did follow this story lots of children did test negative for that adeno-virus). A.o. info from China links these hepatitis to CoViD (vaccines ????)

In general-with CoViD cases in the billions...simply out of control...all other diseases behaving differently may have some links with the CoViD pandemic. 

We even may miss most CoViD infections-worldwide-in humans....non-human spread very likely is even worse...[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/cats/presumed-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-from-a-cat-to-a-vet/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/cats/presumed-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-from-a-cat-to-a-vet/

My main concern is cats, since we know they can spread the virus cat-to-cat. If they can do that, it’s logical that they could spread it cat-to-person. However, it will be tough demonstrate. If a cat is infected, it almost invariably got exposed from someone in the household, and figuring out whether it was the cat or the infected person that infected someone else in the household (or a visitor) is almost impossible. The most likely way we’ll figure that out is if we see evidence of transmission in a veterinary clinic or shelter, where there’s no linked risk of human-to-human spread.”

A paper in the upcoming edition of Emerging Infectious Diseases (Sila et al. 2022) rounds out this discussion, providing strong evidence of cat-to-veterinarian transmission.

DJ, Science is finding proof, evidence...not (just) on what makes sense...

The cat was healthy and the veterinarian collected nasal and rectal swabs for SARS-CoV-2 testing. In the process, the cat sneezed in her face. She was wearing an N95 mask but no eye protection.  This is a common oversight – if there’s a high risk scenario where an N95 mask is needed, eye protection is almost always indicated. As a profession, we (veterinarians) do a pretty bad job of using eye protection.

I’m not sure how concerned they were at the time. The cat wasn’t known to be SARS-CoV-2-positive, and getting sneezed on by a cat isn’t exactly a rare event for a veterinarian (neither is getting drooled on, puked on, pooped on or close encounters with pretty much any bodily fluid… occupational hazard).

However, 3 days later, the veterinarian started to feel sick. She didn’t seek medical care until the results of the cat’s test came back 2 days after that – positive. She was tested and was also positive for SARS-CoV-2.

The timing is bang-on for cat-to-human infection, unknown exposure to another infected person had to be considered, so more investigation ensued. A veterinarian in the hospital’s large animal clinic also got COVID-19 around the same time, but there was no known contact between the two veterinarians, and the small animal veterinarian didn’t report any other known contact with an infected person.

I think it is very likely animals may play a larger role in (asymptomatic) spread then we (want to) know...

All this relates to cats… what about dogs?

The risk from dogs remains unclear but is probably very low. We don’t have evidence of dog-to-dog transmission, and viral loads in infected dogs are typically low. I don’t think we can say there’s zero risk, but the risk is likely much lower compared to cats.

DJ Point is that even very low chance 1-in-a-1.000 the very high numbers still produce spread. 

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DJ-Is the Ukraine/biden-NATO war against Russia meant as distraction from a faillure to deal with the pandemic ? 

The motor behind this war-by-provocation is joe biden and his club...blaming Putin for Trump becoming president...insane !

The idea behind this "war-promotors" was "Russia is weak", Russians "hate Putin"...sanctions will destroy Russia...but when Russia invaded Ukraine -from day 1- any "sane person" knew Ukraine had no chance...

So another agenda showed up; breaking up Eur-Asian relations, stop the New Silk Road/China, yet another US mistake was "the world" kept dealing with Russia-they neede the oil...even the west kept buying Russian oil, uranium...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-bits-no-ammo-more-casualties-thin-lines-propaganda-and-passing-the-buck.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-bits-no-ammo-more-casualties-thin-lines-propaganda-and-passing-the-buck.html 

Alexander Mercouris; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZb-ba4WqGs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZb-ba4WqGs ;Ukraine Admits Losing 'Artillery War' and Therefore the War Itself News Topic 522

the Ukraine agenda; trying to get even more NATO-aid...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/soldier-from-germany-nato-bearing-arms-caught-on-tv-in-severodonetsk-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/soldier-from-germany-nato-bearing-arms-caught-on-tv-in-severodonetsk-ukraine ...

With yet another NATO top on the agenda - will biden, bojo push for sending in NATO military ? 

DJ I have to link this war-insanity with pandemic-"freedom"-insanity....Not stopping a virus, hoping for some magic that will end the pandemic. Big Pharma share holders making money out of a pandemic...like wars bring profit to other shares....Climate change is NOT stopped...short term profits even when bringing long term total destruction...

This pandemic is the outcome of political stupidity ! Pushing for even more wars, with allready over 100 million refugees-is making matters only much worse...

We need other "leaders"!  

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DJ-Is there any "new news" ? 

Russia keeps crushing Ukraine...NATO keeps sending "heavy weapons"  the Ukraine nazi-regime then in part uses to shell and kill Russian citizens in Donetsk...

Tensions with China increasing due to a US-Taiwan likely weapondeal...US/Japan increasing tensions with Russia about the Kuril-islands...A "new" G8 Russia, China, India, Iran, Indonesia, Turkey, Brazil (and ?)...is forming. A non-western G20; including South Africa, Argentina, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, etc. will be a matter of time...

Western economies are in a worsening crisis...Northstream-pipeline has problems because some tech, in repair at Siemans, can not be returned to Russia because of western sanctions...So gas-prices go up further....

"Leaders" like biden and bojo (could include rutte, US,UK,NL in many ways facing the same problems) are "under increasing pressure"...Main problem is there are no real alternatives...

There is some discussion on if another wave of CoViD may "help" the US democrats in the mid-term elections in november....DJ-failing to deal with a very serious pandemic should not bring in more votes....But in NL a.o. "freedom" ignoring healthrisks did get a lot of votes and problems...

-The pandemic;

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emergence-of-a-new-sars-cov-2-ba-2-56-sublineage-that-is-more-neuropathogenic-emerges-in-japan,-causing-more-cases-of-viral-encephalitis[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emergence-of-a-new-sars-cov-2-ba-2-56-sublineage-that-is-more-neuropathogenic-emerges-in-japan,-causing-more-cases-of-viral-encephalitis the BA.2.56.1 in Japan linked to neurological/brain problems...Most likely some other variants may do more damage in other organs [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/preprint-long-covid-19-liver-manifestation-in-children/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hepatitis/preprint-long-covid-19-liver-manifestation-in-children/ ....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/tmn-s-hypothesis-that-billions-of-post-covid-individuals-having-a-changed-immune-landscape-is-contributing-to-other-pathogens-mutating-needs-urgent-va[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/tmn-s-hypothesis-that-billions-of-post-covid-individuals-having-a-changed-immune-landscape-is-contributing-to-other-pathogens-mutating-needs-urgent-va lidation

DJ-If CoViD changes our immunity not only will it weaken our defenses...it may also provide room for mutations in viruses resulting in known diseases behaving in a different way....

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-research-50-household-attack-rate/ [/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/monkeypox/monkeypox-research-50-household-attack-rate/ ; 2016 research: “The household attack rate (i.e., rate of persons living with an infected person that develop symptoms of MPXV infection) was 50%.”

DJ, [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory is one of a limited sites still updating monkeypox cases...With [url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CEBhao3rMe-qtCbAgJTn5ZKQMRFWeAeaiXFpBY3gbHE/edit#gid=0[/url] or https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CEBhao3rMe-qtCbAgJTn5ZKQMRFWeAeaiXFpBY3gbHE/edit#gid=0 providing a bit more extra info....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/global-monkeypox-cases-now-exceeds-2,000-uk-leads-with-470-confirmed-cases,-germany-now-has-189-cases-thousands-of-probable-cases-now[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/global-monkeypox-cases-now-exceeds-2,000-uk-leads-with-470-confirmed-cases,-germany-now-has-189-cases-thousands-of-probable-cases-now !

Monkeypox is not that easy to test/detect...lots of countries do NOT want to find out they have another major problem...

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/14/rivm-thinks-new-covid-wave-started-positive-tests-doubled-two-weeks[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/14/rivm-thinks-new-covid-wave-started-positive-tests-doubled-two-weeks

The number of hospital admissions is also increasing. In the past week, 231 people were hospitalized because of their coronavirus infection, the highest number reported in preliminary data since the week ending May 10.

The total was 45 percent higher than the preliminary figure reported a week earlier. Last week, the RIVM reported in its preliminary data that 128 people were hospitalized with Covid-19, a figure which was later revised to 207.

Still, the RIVM calls the increase in recent hospitalizations limited. It also said that there is no rapid increase in the number of infections in nursing homes either

DJ; In short;

-Western priority is war with Russia, Iran, China...

-The pandemic(s) are getting worse...more immunity escape etc. 

-CoViD changing immunity, resulting in increase of other diseases (hepatitis, brain/hearth problems, monkeypox)

-BA.5(.1 ?) now becoming more dominant worldwide

-Governments keep failing, economic damage is getting very major....

[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/other-animals/sars-cov-2-in-cattle-take-a-deep-breath-and-relax/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/other-animals/sars-cov-2-in-cattle-take-a-deep-breath-and-relax/

The take home message:

Cattle are one of many species that SARS-CoV-2 seems to be able to infect.  The odds of it being relevant for cattle (or for infection of cattle to be relevant to public health) are low, but it’s worth further study.

DJ...cattle seem to catch and spread the virus without getting ill themselves-so far...DJ-I am much less optimistic (but I am NOT an expert !!!) ; spread=mutation=variants....

MERS has a camel-link and is far worse then CoViD has been so far...

[url]https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3721.400.html[/url] or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3721.400.html discussing Arctic-Ice, climate collapse...So far Arctic-ice "level" at #10/#11 "lowest"....The time for lowest Arctic (sea) Ice is in september end tends to move to the end of that month...maybe even early october...

A "BOE" Blue Ocean Event; Arctic "without enough ice" is on its way...however not that likely this year. The Poles are keeping the planet at a certain temperature...Global warming goes up when polar ice melts...The Arctic Ocean more and more becoming "part of the Atlantic Ocean".....Yet another problem where "leaders talk, not act"....

DJ-I do not want to ruin peoples perspectives...Maybe my message should translate to "enjoy life the best you can, as long as possible"....I "am living on hopium"....

Stay safe and sane !

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DJ,

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#page-top statistics-for indication only-lots of countries states stopped testing/reporting...

trends; global cases -2% (last week 3,862, this week 3,804 x1.000) as far as being reported/tested. Real number may be 6x the reported one...so around 20 million people getting infected every week...

9,735 deaths were reported last week, this week it was 8,966 so -8%...excess deaths may be a better indicator...If you never test people for CoViD they do "not die from CoViD"...

Regions; c=cases, d=deaths

Europe c +28% d -15%

North America c -11% d also -11%

South America c +6% d +7%

Asia c -18% d +3%

Africa c +10% d -18%

Oceania c -7% d -2%

In general start of a wave is c+ d-, end of the wave c- d+ (you first have to get infected by a disease before you die from it....)

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory now at 2,253 confirmed cases.

DJ-Maybe also on CFR= Case Fatality Ratio....given that most of the spread by now is in asymptomatic or mild cases the "CFR" in itself may be lower then that of flu. HOWEVER !!!! Billions of people, and lots of (other) animals did get infected. The number of sub-variants now spreading may be in the hundreds...

Since the WHO is a political club and "politics" has decided "Omicron is the last Variant of Concern" (VOC) BA.2, BA.4, BA.5 still are named "Omicron" eventhough they differ more from BA.1 then the Alpha variant was different from Delta...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/uk-1-in-20-secondary-school-pupils-have-experienced-long-covid/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/children/uk-1-in-20-secondary-school-pupils-have-experienced-long-covid/

A new UK ONS survey out today reveals the horrifying extent of Covid damage to Britain’s school kids, with one in twenty secondary school pupils and one in fifty primary school pupils experiencing Long Covid.

Key points in the report:

  • Nearly 1 in 50 (1.8%) primary school pupils (years from reception to year 6) and nearly 1 in 20 (4.8%) secondary school pupils (years 7 to 13) had experienced long COVID following their most recent COVID-19 infection.
  • Significantly more secondary school pupils who reported having COVID-19 had experienced loss of smell or taste, cardiovascular symptoms, or systemic symptoms (fever or high temperature) than those who reported not having had COVID-19.
  • Secondary school pupils in years 7 to 13 with long COVID were significantly more likely to have a probable mental disorder (28.1%) than those without long COVID (12.3%).


ONS report: COVID-19 Schools Infection Survey, England: long COVID and mental health, March 2022

DJ There are several definitions for "LC" = Long CoViD. My impression is 10% of cases may see a form of LC....symptoms after 6 weeks...but again it also has to do what number one takes as "a case"....If one would define that as "a symptomatic case" 10% may be realistic...however lots of a-symptomatic cases may get LC problems later on as well...

Is this pandemic a "very major problem" ? YES ! 

DJ, This CoViD-pandemic opened doors for lots of other diseases. "The virus is winning" ...I am NOT an expert but CoViD may "end humans"....

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part 2,

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-risk-assessment-for-sars-cov-2-omicron-subvariants-ba-5-ba-2-12-1-and-ba-4/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-risk-assessment-for-sars-cov-2-omicron-subvariants-ba-5-ba-2-12-1-and-ba-4/

The sub-variants provisionally amount to 21% (BA.5) and 12.4% (BA.2.12.1) per June 8 2022.

BA.4 currently amounts to 3.7% in week 23 per June 8, and is not considered to show the same growth as BA.5 and BA.2.12.1.

and [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/france/france-ba-5-at-18-of-sequences/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/france/france-ba-5-at-18-of-sequences/ ;

Detection of BA.4 (1.1%) and BA.5 (18.0%) on the rise according to the week 21 Flash Survey in France.

In week 22, the virological indicators increased after declining for several weeks, although hospital indicators continued to fall nationally.

Incidence and positivity rates remained particularly high in Martinique.

  • Metropolitan France:
    Incidence and positivity rates rising in the majority of regions, less striking reduction in the hospitalisation rate
  • Overseas France:
    Virological indicators very high and rising in Martinique, renewed increase in the incidence rate in French Guiana confirmed
  • Variants
    Omicron BA.2 sub-lineage dominant: 80% of interpretable sequences in the week 21 Flash Survey (23 May)
    Detection of BA.4 (1.1%) and BA.5 (18.0%) on the rise according to the week 21 Flash Survey
  • Increased presence of the mutation in L452 position in screening (27% in week 22), in connection with the increase in certain Omicron sub-lineages, including BA.4 and BA.5.

DJ [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emerging-sars-cov-2-variants-are-learning-to-suppress-immune-responses-against-itself-and-original-strains-helps-via-negative-immune-imprinti[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-emerging-sars-cov-2-variants-are-learning-to-suppress-immune-responses-against-itself-and-original-strains-helps-via-negative-immune-imprinti ng (TMN)

You have "ADE" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement in that scenario the anti bodies, immunity is hijacked by the virus. The TMN article describes a proces were you do NOT have ADE but the virus is "pre-programmed" for the immune response. 

Simply meaning the virus anticipates on the host immune reaction...simply gets around it...I do not know what is worse ADE or this scenario....both scenario's mean we will have less defenses against CoViD variants...

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/warning-many-countries-starting-to-see-a-new-surge-in-covid-19-cases-driven-by-the-ba-4-ba-5-variants-and-their-subvariants-despite-less-testing[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/warning-many-countries-starting-to-see-a-new-surge-in-covid-19-cases-driven-by-the-ba-4-ba-5-variants-and-their-subvariants-despite-less-testing DJ-in short-less defenses mean people will be able to get infected with (all kinds of) sub-variants over and over again...Both vaccines and earlier infection offer "very limited/no" protection....

Different sub-variants may show to do (most) damage at different places...[url]https://covid19.healthdata.org/global?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend[/url] or https://covid19.healthdata.org/global?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend gives a "very optimistic" scenario of only a few hundred thousend deaths extra...(this summer)

DJ-Some studies claim India did see over 5 million deaths from Delta...India cases now +95%....(with by far most cases NOT reported)

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-likely-to-be-declared-a-world-pandemic-next-week-as-cases-rise-to-more-than-2317-globally-with-more-alarming-data-emerging[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-likely-to-be-declared-a-world-pandemic-next-week-as-cases-rise-to-more-than-2317-globally-with-more-alarming-data-emerging 

DJ The article claims two monkeypox deaths in Brazil, one in Portugal...aerosol spread, high speed mutation. See also [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/tmn-s-hypothesis-that-billions-of-post-covid-individuals-having-a-changed-immune-landscape-is-contributing-to-other-pathogens-mutating-needs-urgent-va[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/tmn-s-hypothesis-that-billions-of-post-covid-individuals-having-a-changed-immune-landscape-is-contributing-to-other-pathogens-mutating-needs-urgent-va lidation...

DJ-I do NOT agree with the wording in TMN...One major question is still unanswered-what is the monkeypox link with CoViD (vaccines ???)...Could "monkeypox" be linked with BA.5 subvariants ? 

Another point I did not find is how BA.2.12.1, BA.4, BA.5 is spreading in non-human hosts ? From mice to cattle, pigs...

Do I see any room for optimism ? NO !!! Dealing with this pandemic should have been top-priority...This pandemic could have been avoided by early action january 2020...

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part 3, 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-s-president-signs-decree-special-military-operations[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-s-president-signs-decree-special-military-operations 

We have a major climate crisis, a major health crisis - both could "end (human) live" on Earth...So why not start global wars...

Outside the "west" the view is that NATO ignoring Russia request for talks on European security...instead of it pushing for Ukraine joining NATO...a nuclear armed Ukraine...killing (ethnic) Russians by the thousends since 2014...was asking for a Russian RE (!!!!) -action...(the action was NATO providing the nazi's in Kiev-most Ukrainians are NOT nazi's !- with weapons to start another offensive in the Donbas..).

So Russia moved in to stop Ukraine war-crimes...

The US now also is sending weapons to Taiwan...even has a sort of military base on Taiwan...going against the "One China-policy" the US decided to follow under/since Nixon early 70's....

The US is supporting Japan on claims on islands under Russian control since 1945...

DJ-I once had hope "the west" was able and willing to go for diplomacy...Talks could have "saved" that west...However biden hates Putin and thinks Russians hate Putin as well...Proberbly some US/UK "elite" expected an uprising in Russia against Putin...utter stupidity...

In words the US still supports the "one China" policy...however in actions it already dropped that policy...So China will "restore Bejing rule" in Taiwan...no doubt with Russian help. (North Korea may be an ininvited guest...). 

The only way the US, NATO, can stop Russia from "ending" Ukraine, China from "political corrections in Taiwan" would be nuclear war...however Russia has very "good" air defense, hypersonic missiles...Russia, China have underground cities...much better prepared for even nuclear war....

-In the Middle East Turkey may seek cooperation with Iran, maybe even Assad-Syria on "solving the Kurdish problem"...NATO has given away its position to stop Turkey...Turkey only will agree on Finland, Sweden joining NATO if Turkey can "deal" with the Kurds...

The Kurds may be the largest "nation" without its own country...something like 39 million...now "given away" so NATO can include Sweden and Finland...(1/2 of the Kurds in population...Finland 5,5 million, Sweden 10,2 million in population...). 

A possible scenario could be the Kurds in Syria becoming part of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) of Assad...Russia/Iran control of a borderzone in Syria/Iraq south and east of Turkey...

However Russia may be aware of its limits...Nicaragua also asking for Russian military...Are there still Russian military in Cuba ? Is China "protecting" its interests in Venezuela (and Iran ?)  oil with "PMC" Private Military Contractors ? (PMC may be "former military"...the sort of "former NATO military" now fighting Russia in Ukraine...). 

Israel was preparing major strikes against Iran...but Saudi Arabia wants "better ties" with Russia, China...may no longer offer airspace...Russia is in control over Syrian (and Lebanese) airspace...Since Russia wants to stay out of the Israel-Iran conflict so far it did not bring down Israel planes...Syria has better weapons-did shoot down several Israel planes (most unmanned UAV)...

-How this "global shift" will effect people in (western) Europe, North America ? 

DJ Fiat-currency, both Euro and US/Can $ are "at the mercy" of Russia, China....The petro-dollar is history...In a military sense not only Ukraine is beaten...we are also "finished" in a military sense...

Biden now telling US farmers to get Russian fertilizers, both US and Europe still buying Russian oil and gas (part of it via India/Turkey...) Russia did see its profits double in oil/gas...with less oil/gas going to Europe...more to China, India, even Indonesia....but also Russia increasing its own refineries...storage. 

If you think 10% inflation is bad...5 $+ per gallon, 2,5 € per liter for car fuel is bad...this only is the start....

Western weapons in Ukraine are not only killing ethnic Russian citizens in Donetsk...Ukraine is also using it against targets in Russia (not Crimea) itself....

So far China avoided open warfare...went for "investments" ....

A possible scenario is ports like Rotterdam, Antwerp, Hamburg, New York become "Chinese investments"....Shell, BP, Exxon part of Russian, China, India energy....

DJ, I think Russia, China want to limit/avoid "military action" as much as possible...trying to get India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, South Africa, Saudi Arabia on their side...."Make investments not war"....(For that matter a blockade of Taiwan (by China...and Russia ???)  may be more realistic than an invasion).

"We" should not expect any mercy from Russia, China....they may "use us" in a way that we "can be of their interest".....

Of course that is not good !!! Diplomacy should have avoided this scenario...but why ???? the west is always fighting and invading...breaking all its promisses and agreements....

Why do we allow a few people getting rich from the crises we produce ? In the end "we" in the west, are doing this to ourselves ! 

Do not blame Putin for "western sanctions" the outcome of the west breaking the Minsk-agreements...1990 understanding of NATO not moving east....WE-the west-show to be selfdestructive....

Time for another coffee !

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DJ, 

Some similarity between "war" and the pandemic; both are out of control and getting (much) worse....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/north-korea-reports-of-an-enteric-disease-outbreak-alongside-its-covid-19-crisis-but-could-it-be-a-new-sars-cov-2-variant-with-gastrointestinal-tropis[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/north-korea-reports-of-an-enteric-disease-outbreak-alongside-its-covid-19-crisis-but-could-it-be-a-new-sars-cov-2-variant-with-gastrointestinal-tropis TMN is reporting newer sorts of CoViD from a.o. China and North Korea...

On the war front; 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2J5oLvXj8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2J5oLvXj8 military summary keeps updating on the war in Ukraine but both yesterday and today also mentioned;

-Russia preparing mobilization in july

-Ukraine losses go towards 200.000 military killed/wounded

- 20,000 "foreign fighters" in Ukraine (Poland, UK, (UK 3,000 ?), US did send "most former military")

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-deaths-70-000-plus-210-000-wounded[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-deaths-70-000-plus-210-000-wounded ;Based on actual cemetery grave count:  Seventy-Thousand Ukraine troops are dead,  According to numerous other reporting, another 210,000 Ukraine troops have been wounded.

Currently Russia is holding 8,500 Ukrainian POWs. Most are in POW camps in Donbass. Ukraine is holding 325 Russian POWs at this time

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/explosion-rocks-russia-s-largest-natural-gas-field-sabotage[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/explosion-rocks-russia-s-largest-natural-gas-field-sabotage

A massive explosion tore through a 1400mm natural gas pipeline at Russia's largest natural gas field in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug in Siberia today.   The fire is presently burning out of control.

A source reports the fire is burning in the area of GP 8, skip 8832 which is in the Gazprom Dobycha Urengoy section, between gas fields 7-8.

The cause of the explosion is being investigated, but a source says it appears this was a DELIBERATE ACT of Sabotage.  Investigators are already saying someone is trying to send a message to Russia, that infrastructure even deep inside their country "can be gotten to."  The trouble with sending a message to Russia, is that the Russian then need to send a message back.

DJ-IF (!!!!) "Ukraine/NATO" forces start attacking targets deep inside Russia it is a further escalation-wich will bring a Russian reaction...

-Russian mobilization plans for next month would not only be linked to Ukraine/NATO-war but also on Taiwan...(Russian conflict with Japan/US)...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/serious-development-in-ukraine-dpr-leader-says-will-march-to-lviv[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/serious-development-in-ukraine-dpr-leader-says-will-march-to-lviv ; A very serious development has taken place regarding ongoing hostilities in Ukraine.  The Leader of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Denis Pushilin, says the decision has been made to fight all the way to Lviv; there may not BE a "Ukraine" anymore.

DJ Russia, Iran, China see no point any longer in talking to the west....Ukraine will be 100% under Russian control (so "EU-leaders promissing EU membership is non-sense...)

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/two-american-fighters-are-believed-captured-russia-ukraine[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/two-american-fighters-are-believed-captured-russia-ukraineHuynh is a Marine veteran, while Drueke is an Army veteran - though little has as yet been revealed by the respective branches about their service record at this point.

DJ Some claims Drueke would be a bio-weapon specialist....

End of part 1, maybe more later...

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You should probably edit the title to Morning Comics.....

Clowns like Hal Turner and his band of ignorant followers should never be invited over for breakfast, unless it's in the jail cafeteria. Any updates from pedophile Scott Ritter or self professed mental patient Alexander Mercouris? Maybe save their dribble for tomorrow's comics?


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ksc, how do you see it then ? You give endless comments on commentaters-not much in the content they write...You still believe Ukraine is "winning the war" "against evil Putin" ? Still believe sanctions work ? 

I do not agree with a lot of views of hal turner, or Alex Christoforou-for that matter-but they may have a point in how "the west" did make major mistakes in their foreign policy judgements...

Since Russia was very clear on what "they" (the Russian national security counsel-Putin is a member of it...) wanted in 2021-security guarantees-they now made the choice to go for their security in another way...The west did not want talks...they wanted confrontation-so that is what they did get !

It could all have been avoided...if the west had gone for diplomacy....

The bigger oicture, the "west" against "the rest" [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-informs-assad-one-of-your-palaces-is-the-idf-s-next-target[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-informs-assad-one-of-your-palaces-is-the-idf-s-next-target

According to the Arab news site Elaph, Syrian President Bashar Assad has been warned that his Presidential Palace will be attacked if Syria allows Iran to continue its activities in the country.

Israel recently warned Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that one of his palaces would become a target for IDF forces in their next raid on Syria, if it continued to allow Iran's attempts to transfer quality weapons to its country, Elaph, an Arab news website operating in London, reported last night. 

According to the website's reporter, Majdi Halabi, Israel began preparing for operations deep inside Syria without informing Russia, but an Israeli source told the reporter that the bombing operations across the country in the past month were known to the Russian side, just hours before they occurred.

Israel last week bombed runways at Damascus International Airport and completely shut down that airport's operations, in order to pressure Assad to take a more active and firm line against Iran's use of Syria and its infrastructure, smuggling weapons to Hezbollah and various forces in Syria itself.

This, following the bombing of a weapons depot of Iranian elements in Damascus more than two weeks ago, the missile attack in May against targets of Assad's army and Iranian militias in the Syrian capital, and the attack on pro-Iranian militias in the Masaif area in western Syria. 

US may support Israel in an attack on Iran...(PS HT is copying these stories from other sources...)

[url]https://southfront.org/war-between-nato-and-russia-is-inevitable/[/url] or https://southfront.org/war-between-nato-and-russia-is-inevitable/ 

[url]https://southfront.org/strikes-eliminate-hq-of-azov-battalion-in-kharkiv-russia-releases-details-on-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine/[/url] or https://southfront.org/strikes-eliminate-hq-of-azov-battalion-in-kharkiv-russia-releases-details-on-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine/ 

[url]https://southfront.org/tensions-in-the-china-us-taiwan-triangle-heat-up/[/url] or https://southfront.org/tensions-in-the-china-us-taiwan-triangle-heat-up/ 

[url]http://thesaker.is/the-new-g8-meets-chinas-three-rings/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/the-new-g8-meets-chinas-three-rings/ Pepe Escobar; 

Cheng argues that since the beginning of the 2018 U.S.-China trade war the Empire of Lies and its vassals have aimed to “decouple”; thus the Middle Kingdom should strategically downgrade its relations with the West and promote a new international system based on South-South cooperation.

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The China-Central Asia Gas Pipeline Line D will link Turkmenistan’s gas fields to Xinjiang via Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. That was the main theme of the discussions when Turkmen President Berdimuhamedow visited Beijing for the Winter Olympics.

The 523 km China-Kyrgyzstan-Uzbekistan railway for its part will crucially link the two Central Asian “stans” to the China-Europe freight rail network, via the existing rail networks in Turkmenistan.

Considering the current incandescent geopolitical scenario in Ukraine, this is a bombshell in itself, because it will enable freight from China to travel via Iran or via Caspian ports, bypassing sanctioned Russia. No hard feelings, in terms of the Russia-China strategic partnership: just business.

DJ-From a historic perspective; change of global #1 position allways seem to be mixed with major wars...One could argue that UK lost its dominance in two world wars..France lost its position in Waterloo in 1815...was able to get a colonial empire (in part still has that) in the decades following it...Spain did see its empire breaking up in many smaller wars (US-Spanish war 1898-1903 may be the last one...) 

NL lost it "empire" in 1949 in Indonesia-but was a dominant global player only some decades in the 17th century...

We did see global wars more often then "just" during the world wars...and maybe "wars" are the "normal" ? Certainly World War Two also was an economic war...both Germany and Japan did seek natural resources...The fact they could not get enough grip on it is maybe the major reason they did not win...

-North Korea;

[url]https://dprkhealth.org/category/notice/[/url] or https://dprkhealth.org/category/notice/ does not offer much...(as far as I see it...) 

[url]https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220617001800325?section=nk/nk[/url] or https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220617001800325?section=nk/nk ;

Jo Yong-won, secretary for organizational affairs of the WPK's Central Committee, said he would "make sure that the families of the officials of the departments of the Party Central Committee voluntarily and morally" help patients relieve their discomfort and pain as soon as possible.

Jo added that he will organize the transportation of medicine to over 800 families suffering from the infectious disease in South Hwanghae Province on Friday. The figure suggests at least 2,000 people could be affected by the illness.

On Thursday, North Korea announced an outbreak of an "acute enteric" infection in Haeju City of South Hwanghae Province. It did not specify what the disease is but it appears to refer to infectious diseases such as typhoid, dysentery, and cholera, which most frequently result from consumption of contaminated food or water and through the feces of infected patients.

already has more...Basic medication is missing...[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/asia-ad/asia-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/948431-north-korea-claims-hundreds-of-thousands-of-covid-19-cases-and-unknown-total-number-of-deaths-since-late-april-may-11?view=stream[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/asia-ad/asia-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/948431-north-korea-claims-hundreds-of-thousands-of-covid-19-cases-and-unknown-total-number-of-deaths-since-late-april-may-11?view=stream ; Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladit...h=383179fa40d1

North Korea Faces Suspected Typhoid Or Cholera Outbreak As Covid Infections Grow
Siladitya RayForbes Staff
Jun 16, 2022,03:28am EDT
Updated Jun 16, 2022, 05:48am EDT

North Korea is facing what it says is an unknown intestinal disease outbreak—suspected to be either cholera or typhoid—in the southwestern city of Haeju, according to the country’s state-run media, even as it continues to report more than 25,000 new Covid-19 cases daily in an ongoing outbreak that is believed to have put a major strain on the country’s fragile health care system.

Key Facts

According to the state-controlled Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), the port city of Haeju is facing an “acute enteric epidemic” outbreak, without providing additional details.
To tackle the outbreak, the country’s leader Kim Jong Un sent medicines “prepared by his family” to Haeju and ordered local health officials to rapidly contain the outbreak, the report adds.

South Korean government officials believe the mysterious outbreak is likely to have been caused by either cholera or typhoid—both bacterial diseases contracted from contaminated water or food, Reuters reported. North Korea also reported 26,010 suspected new Covid-19 cases or ‘fevers’ and one death on Thursday, pushing the country’s official Covid-19 death toll to 73...

DJ Or does a new form of CoViD cause these cholera/typhoid-like symptoms ? It would be welcome if "a neutral country (NK perspective) " could do some sequencing...With "free public healthcare" not meaning much in NK it may become a major problem...

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DJ, "Freedom of expression" is basic in a democracy-with that the right to disagree. It does not give a right to insult people or institutions. Critical thinking, questioning things, can make "things better"....be constructive...

I think it is sad to see "the west" giving less and less room for questions, it turns democracy into democrazy...

I think there is a red line connecting;

[url]https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3721.400.html#lastPost[/url] or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3721.400.html#lastPost Arctic Sea Ice now at 7th lowest level...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Netherlands[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Netherlands in NL news Dutch climate scientists do no longer expect global temperatures will stay under 2C+ since pre-industrial baseline...(Some expect even +3C)

I search for BA.4 with N:P151S and BA.5 with M:D3n. I sparsely noticed a sample with both, but started to investigate further after  found 33 (US). Now, 9 days later, there are 181 alike ones that seem to grow faster than BA.5 in US and Denmark!

DJ An out of control pandemic...

and 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-us-is-on-the-road-towards-escalation.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-us-is-on-the-road-towards-escalation.html  , [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-coming-shift-global-economic-power-2006-2036[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-coming-shift-global-economic-power-2006-2036 "the end of the west"....

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Neoliberalism, or neo-liberalism,[1] is a term used to describe the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with free-market capitalism.[2]: 7 [3] A significant factor in the rise of conservative and libertarian organizations, political parties, and think tanks, and predominantly advocated by them,[4][5] it is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization, including privatization, deregulation, globalization, free trade, monetarism, austerity and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society;[6][14] however, the defining features of neoliberalism in both thought and practice have been the subject of substantial scholarly debate.[15][16]

As an economic philosophy, neoliberalism emerged among European liberal scholars in the 1930s as they attempted to revive and renew central ideas from classical liberalism as they saw these ideas diminish in popularity, overtaken by a desire to control markets, following the Great Depression and manifested in policies designed to counter the volatility of free markets, and mitigate their negative social consequences.

DJ I think the role of any government has to be protection of the people...A [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract ; In moral and political philosophy, the social contract is a theory or model that originated during the Age of Enlightenment and usually concerns the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual.[1] Social contract arguments typically are that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order.

DJ, We pay tax, accept laws and expect "protection" in return....However-the present major (western) crisis is seeing;

-Governments without any strategy in the pandemic

-Governments failing to stop climate collapse

-Governments going for (global) war...

You did have an "American revolution" in 1776..."no taxation without representation"...The "French revolution" of 1789 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9 

Both did see people -citizens- once loyal to the government, unite against that government when that government failed to do its job...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Abjuration[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Abjuration for NL; 

The Act of Abjuration (DutchPlakkaat van VerlatingheSpanishActa de Abjuraciónlit.'placard of abjuration') is the declaration of independence by many of the provinces of the Netherlands from the allegiance to Philip II of Spain, during the Dutch Revolt.

Signed on 26 July 1581 in The Hague, the Act formally confirmed a decision made by the States General of the Netherlands in Antwerp four days earlier. It declared that all magistrates in the provinces making up the Union of Utrecht were freed from their oaths of allegiance to their lord, Philip, who was also King of Spain. The grounds given were that Philip had failed in his obligations to his subjects, by oppressing them and violating their ancient rights (an early form of social contract). Philip was therefore considered to have forfeited his thrones as ruler of each of the provinces which signed the Act.

The Act of Abjuration allowed the newly independent territories to govern themselves, although they first offered their thrones to alternative candidates. When this failed in 1587 by, among other things, the Deduction of François Vranck the provinces became a republic in 1588.

DJ, Climate "change", pandemics, wars and "revolutions" are part of human history....for thousends of years...(in fact democracy started with the ancient Greek...however only male citizens (often tax payers) of the city did have a right to vote...). 

So, where are we now ? 

The "west" did "overstretch" itself...made itself larger than it had "the strength" to maintain. Neo-liberalism did turn governments working (to much) in the interests of "the rich/companies"...One mistake is "the rich/companies" "do not have a home"...go where there are limited tax, rules...

Any crisis, from the "Euro-crisis" to "banking/housing" was solved by printing more money - based on "future profits, expected economic growth"...we did not build a house on melting ice...we did build western economy on melting ice...

A wrong idea of "freedom" did see governments giving freedom for diseases to spread...

DJ-The outcome of the "many crises" will be "other leaders"...however since the present crises are that major there are limits to history repeating itself...Damage control may be all there is left..

So-what will the nearby future bring ?

-Both the pandemic and climate "problems" look to become that major countries may face a struggle to survive...from wildfires, flooding, extreme heat, drought, cold to a global food and watercrisis; the nearby future will be "a challenge"

-You can not fight wars under the above circumstances; in most wars most soldiers die not from fighting but healthissues...We may see a "global peace" with local wars/conflicts over food, water...

-To stop the spread of disease you "have to stop the spread of hosts". The idea that we "have a right to fly around the globe" is a very recent idea...Not even a hundred years ago travel was very limited....

-The best way to fight "disinformation" is to give "the best info you can give", accepting we are still learning...There is "lots of room for discussion"...But governments should act - do their job ! Reduction of 90/95% of airtravel will slow down pandemics and climate collapse...If almost all governments accept both pandemics and the "climate crisis" as very major problems - why are they not acting ???

-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms ; Freedom of speech, worship, from want and from fear are basic human "rights". But the other side of "rights" is "obligation", respect, willing to learn, understand other views...

Can we survive the "mega-crisis"? I do not know-but we at least have to try that !

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Well, it's come down to this drivel.  DJ and others have done a good job of alternative news promoting and getting us all a taste of different viewpoints of the situation in the Ukraine.  I don't understand all of it.  Perhaps I am a caveman living in a cave.  I just think that we all need to look at a map and see where the oil goes and who really has the power.   China is a large dictatorial powerhouse who is very insecure.  Russia is a large and backward nation who has destroyed 15 years of economic progress in order to invade the Ukraine.  India is clearly a large and poor nation that is looking to expand it's resource base.  The big issue is the future of oil and natural gas.  Who has it ? Who wants it  and who is going to get it.  China is  energy dependent on the middle eastern oil and the war in the Ukraine gives China a chance to turn to the russians for oil.   India is also an importer of middle eastern oil and they are also importing russian oil.  If the russians sell their oil to China and India instead of european nations, it solves two major issues of both india and china.  They no longer need to be adversarial toward each other and it leaves the europeans and americans without the ability to pit them against each other for the oil of the middle east and it removes the need for both nations  to put billions into defense from each other.   China can then concentrate its military into the pacific ocean and India can deal with it's rival, pakistan and expand into east africa.  Pakistan is not a strategic asset to China.  It is a failed state that India needs to deal with as a terrorist state.  While India needs to deal with Pakistan, China needs to make peace with the Americans.   Now, this is going to require some realism on the part of the Chinese.   China is going to have to accept the status quo.  China is not going to get Taiwan by force.   China will try to get Taiwan by force, but will fail.  The Japanese won't allow it, the Americans won't allow it and I think the Indians won't allow it.   The Chinese don't need Taiwan.  The CCP needs it, not the nation state of China.   

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Well, it is complicated...a 5D-puzzle....

DJ-

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/u-s-hit-by-new-sars-cov-2-ba-4-and-ba-5-variants-surge-118,027-new-covid-19-infections,-367-deaths-in-last-24-hours-with-29,866-hospitalized[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/u-s-hit-by-new-sars-cov-2-ba-4-and-ba-5-variants-surge-118,027-new-covid-19-infections,-367-deaths-in-last-24-hours-with-29,866-hospitalized  CoViD-cases going up again...With more different sub-variants, bringing lots of different symptoms, liver, brain, hearth, skin all may see problems after catching a "new generation" of CoViD... 

Besides that-with billions of hosts being infected-immunity for other diseases may go down....

This pandemic is political in many ways;

-Do you go for "zero-CoViD" or not is a political decission (and experts are very divided on it)

-Do you ignore CoViD ? Hoping for some "magic herdimmunity" that most likely is not there...

-When do you (re)act if things go wrong again..

-and who do you blame ? China ? Putin ? the citizens/republicans (in the US), neo-liberals (my choice...)

The basic question is; "how bad is it"?  If "new CoViD" is "cold-like" you may have a point in ignoring it...However with limited testing/sequencing the info we have may not give us the answers...

Maybe Case Fatality Ratio is "only 10%" of that of the flu - most types of flu 10x as deathly as "new CoViD"....Still if CoViD keeps spreading, infecting in much higher numbers the total picture could be "new CoViD" killing more people than even a bad flu does...Simply because of much higher numbers...

And another type of "new CoViD" (Corona Viral Disease) could be twice as deathly as "an average flu" (you can take twenty years of flu to get to an "average flu"). 

Long CoViD is another silent disaster....numbers worldwide has to be in at least tens of millions...(also depending on the definition for L.C. Long CoViD)...You may see different groups;

-One group has organ damage, very clear signs...

-Another group may have a virus in the body-showing up from time to time...virus hard to detect...

-A third group may have much less clear symptoms; fatigue, muscle/memory problems, (some doctors claiming they have a mental issue...This can cause depression on top of the other problems).

-Ex ICU group may have PTSD...recovery from severe CoViD may take over a year (some claim 1 day at ICU=1 month recovery needed...)

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table once had some use on giving indications on where we are in the pandemic. Weekend reporting is "very limited"...most countries go for DIY-testing at home...So we have no realistic statistics here...

Sewage samples still give info. Also [url]https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time[/url] or https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time provide good indications-bad news...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory still being updated...but [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-updates-2785-cases-now-in-43-countries-outside-the-african-continent--spain-638-cases,-uk-574-cases,-germany-341-cases,-u-s-118-cases[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/monkeypox-updates-2785-cases-now-in-43-countries-outside-the-african-continent--spain-638-cases,-uk-574-cases,-germany-341-cases,-u-s-118-cases lots of countries "do not want to know" the size of the problem...

DJ-Again-Monkeypox HAS to be related with CoViD (long CoViD weakening immunity-resulting in a new form of monkeypox ?)

There is no strategy in most countries left in dealing with the present healthcrisis...Hospitals/healtcare is "running out of means" to deal with the never ending crisis. (Certainly when governments want to cut spending on healthcare-so more money goes to war...). In short; the virus has won !

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part 2, 

WAR...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oonicHtQmXM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oonicHtQmXM Gonzalo Lira (GL)(from Charkov-Ukraine) on coup plans against zelensky...GL claiming the top-military leader in Ukraine could be backed by (a.o.) the Pentagon if he could end zelensky's rule. GL claiming the nazi's/nationalists surrounding zelensky would not allow that kind of coup (or real peacetalks). 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQB7uWuWpBw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQB7uWuWpBw (also posted at [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/ ) GL claiming Lithuania and Poland would be preparing an attack on Kaliningrad [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad until 1946 known as Königsberg

DJ; Kaliningrad/Königsberg was German - East Prusia till the end of World War Two. There were some talks around 1990, German reunification, the city/area would be returned to Germany. The former Soviet Union then would not have to repay its debts to Germany...(DJ-There still live a very limited number of (half) Germans (one parent German, other Soviet Union) in that area. After may 1945 "de-Germanification" meant Germans were kicked out of area's they may have been living for generations. Most likely thousends of Germans got killed during such "border changes". [url]https://postwargermany.com/2012/09/26/hunger-winter/[/url] or https://postwargermany.com/2012/09/26/hunger-winter/ ; How many people died as a result of hunger, cold and illness in this period isn’t clear. Some historians estimate hundreds of thousands.

DJ In the winter of 1946-47 Germany (a.o.) faced a foodcrisis killing around 200,000....?)

-maybe another reminder; hitler NEVER had a majority in votes in Germany. Zelenski did get a lot of votes in Ukraine-to END the war ! not to escalate it. The nazi/nationalists groups now in "power" in Ukraine do NOT represent most Ukrainians...(these extremists seem to have links with soccer hooligans..).

DJ;

-The "west" has become very divided on Ukraine by now...[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-wests-response-as-it-meets-with-reality.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-wests-response-as-it-meets-with-reality.html and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home 

There is a "group of hardliners" ; US, UK, Poland, Baltic States...still willing to send both weapons and fighters...

In the US the pentagon/military top is realizing that "sending weapons to Ukraine" at this level is destroying western defenses...it is pointless ! DJ-Without aircover a lot of weapons get destroyed inside Ukraine before they reach the frontlines...Also a lot of smaller weapons end up on the internet...NOT on the frontline. (GL did have a video of Ukraine soldiers selling western weapons to pro-Russian militia....you see that in most conflicts.)

The EU "promissing Ukraine may one day join the EU" -may want in return Ukraine starts talking with Russia...Macron/France may even try to visit Putin. German industry is warning it is facing bankruptcy because of energyprices/problems...Germany wanted to buy extra gas from Russia now-to have enough for the coming winter...but it is getting less Russian gas. (Siemens doing the pump-tech for Northstream-1 in a Canada factory....Canada does not allow those pump-tech to go to Russia. Resulting in less gas for Germany...) Also Poland, Finland now buy Russian gas (for Euro's) from Germany...

A lot of critics warned Europe is destroying itself by the sanctions-war. DJ-As a European I think "security talks with Russia" would have done less damage early 2022 then the present war is doing...The "rotten conclusion" in part 1 was "the virus is winning"...in part 2 has to be Russia is winning....

So we need better strategies fast ! The best we may hope for is "damage control" ...but it is the west that ignored all kinds of agreements with Russia. From NATO "not moving one inch to the east" in 1990 (even if one could discuss that-for duration...One has to take Russian concerns serious...) to breaking the Minsk-agreements, Iran-deal or-for that matter "one-China-policy"...

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ME163, Let me react to your reaction, 

1. China is ruled by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). It has much less freedom then we have here in the west...(NL may do even better then the US or UK...Scandinavia may be most "free" on some index-lists). 

Russia has several political parties. Putin is from "United Russia". The "old" Communist Party" is also a major factor. However both Russia and China are not democracies. Freedom of expression is limited, lots of parties are not allowed...Still-as far as possible-indications are both the CCP/Xi and Putin in Russia have widespread support. 

When you look at US-biden, UK-bojo, NL-rutte public support for them is "very low"...(Here in NL only 17% support  PM-rutte neo-liberal government...however the opposition has support of just 25%...most western democracies are in a very major crisis-lots of people do not feel/get represented...). 

2. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)[/ur] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP) When you look at "what money can buy" the Chinese economy is #1 in the world, the US #2, India #3, Russia #6...Of course when you look "per capita/per person" the average Chinese is much poorer then the average US citizen...(The GDP has to be divided over over 4 times as many Chinese citizens...). 

I did read a Russian anti-tank weapon would only be 5% of the costs of a US anti-tank weapon. (DJ-Maybe less high tech...but the other part of that story could be being robust...it would work under extreme conditions.)

3. Russia-China share thousends of kilometers of land-borders. Also have sea-links, Russia is building high speed more pipelines from Siberia to China for oil/gas exports. Oil-trade with India has to go via tankers...You also have the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor...providing China with a link to the Indian Ocean....(The India-Pakistan main conflict is not about energy, but about land/water. Both India and Pakistan are members of the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation Iran soon will be full member as well, Turkey may be next. You also have "TIP" Turkey-Iran-Pakistan" cooperating on a.o. infrastructure. TIP also can "combine strenght" in dealings with China, the EU, Russia, Middle East). 

In the conflict in Kashmir China also is a factor. China and Pakistan more or less united against India there...India since independence has had good relations with Russia. (Also other countries there had good relations with Russia after colonial rule...Indonesia, Vietnam...The idea of "switching partners just like that" is a wrong US perception...). 

4. You have "different sorts of oil". Even the US may still import some special (Ural)oil it may not be able to get from Canada, Venezuela or Iran....Indonesia-an OPEC member, oil exporter itself-increased oil imports from Russia. However lots of countries would like to end/limit fossil fuel consumption for climate reasons. So there the question is what solar/wind can do...Maybe German Green Party (part of German government) is "very anti-Russia" because they are "very anti fossil-fuel"....

5. Both Germany and Japan have plans for rearmament. Most of its neighbours are not happy with those plans...(Poland in history often did get crushed between Russia and Germany. September 1939 was not the first time...). Both Russia and China see Japan/South Korea and Taiwan as a "wall" blocking Russia/China from the Pacific. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute now has the US moving towards Japan claims on the Kurils under Russian control since the end of world war 2. The US is claiming still sticking to the Nixon "one China" policy-but in practice the US is dealing with Taiwan as a seperate country. Taiwan has been Chinese -became home for the nationalists after the end of a Chinese civil war. "Mainland China" under CCP-rule...Bejing sees Taiwan as Chines...just like the South China Sea claims going back centuries...I do think China/Russia may use force to get more grip on Taiwan (a blockade ?) 

6. Asia will be the dominant future factor. Both India and China are "losing interests" in deals with (far away) US....What can the US offer Asia ? So far in west Asia the US offered wars....

When you look at the Philippines, Brazil...both under (extreme) right wing rule - however both moving away from "the west/the US" my conclusion is "things have changed"...

Both the Euro and US$ may "drop" since they are not backed by enough real matters (gold, energy, grain)...The west did get dominance in military and economic ways...both tools no longer function enough to offer the west a major role...Even US nuclear weapons may be "outdated"...

That is the way I see it - I may not like it, may be wrong...but this forum is for sharing ideas (based on respect !)

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DJ, 

To wake up watched [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFV9ZtRmAjY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFV9ZtRmAjY Alexander Mercouris (almost an hour !) ; Ukraine Down 50% on its Weapons, Johnson Visits Kiev, Angering Tories, Putin Inflation Caused by West's Money Printing News Topic 528 http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president... St Petersburg International Economic Forum Plenary session

and [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDWCcWD6bd8&t=901s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDWCcWD6bd8&t=901s Military Summary (from Belarus - anti war, claim to try to get a view on what is happening). 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/ (most written by "Bernhard" German military background)

All picture the same story; 

-Ukraine simply is destroyed

-West more and more divided

-Economic/political chaos around the corner in most western countries

DJ-So why this insane war ? Ukraine doing the fighting for NATO - but this war is not only destroying Ukraine...it is also destroying the west. Not only financial/economy but also military...

The answer may be "the west" did destroy itself already years ago....now is looking for someone to blame....

-Just printing money, $, €, UK pounds to "solve economic problems" is unwise if you do that for to long...

-[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/cataclysmic-alignment.html  I hope we can limit climate collapse...hopium is the only thing left...

-and then there is the pandemic 

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COVID-19 cases increased by 170% in England in the fortnight to June 13, government data shows - Telegraph

DJ, [url]https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time[/url] or https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time 

So is the Ukraine war used to cover up western faillures ? Would that explain sending for trillions of weapons into Ukraine-most of it never getting to any frontline because of corruption and Russian air superiority ? Ukraine men killed in the tens-of-thousends...Ukraine has every reason to get very angry at the west..."we" did push Ukraine into this war for western goals...Most likely biden/bojo hating Putin also was a factor...

biden/bojo want further escalation...The US even seeking war with Iran, China...for what ? 

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-italian-study-validates-previous-claims-that-sars-cov-2-infections-causes-immunodeficiency-conditions-worse-than-hiv-infections[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-italian-study-validates-previous-claims-that-sars-cov-2-infections-causes-immunodeficiency-conditions-worse-than-hiv-infections 

CoViD infection would cause [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS -like symptoms on the long run...a link;

[url]https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-43462/v1[/url] or https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-43462/v1 ; In conclusion, both HIV and SARS-CoV-2 viruses induce major changes in the lymphocytes count, with remarkable similarities and differences between them. 

The total absolute numbers of T cells and, in particular of the CD8+ subpopulation, are lower in COVID-19 patients compared to AIDS ones, while the CD4+ are reduced in both at similar levels. 

These results indicate that the host immune system reacts differently to the two infection, but they are responsible of a comparable dropping effect on the serum levels of CD4+ T cell population. 

The meaning of the similarities and of the differences in terms of T cells activation and serum depletion are discussed. 

The knowledge on how the immune system reacts to these two infections will be useful to better define their mechanism of action and to design specific preventive and therapeutic approaches.

DJ; If the findings are correct [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory most likely is very related to CoViD.....(like liver, hearth, brain, skin diseases). 

Again - I am NOT an expert ! Just trying to make sense....[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/long-covid/preprint-persistent-circulating-sars-cov-2-spike-is-associated-with-long-covid/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/long-covid/preprint-persistent-circulating-sars-cov-2-spike-is-associated-with-long-covid/

We detected SARS-CoV-2 spike antigen in a majority of PASC patients up to 12 months post-diagnosis, suggesting the presence of an active persistent SARS-CoV-2 viral reservoir. Furthermore, temporal antigen profiles for many patients show the presence of spike at multiple time points over several months, highlighting the potential utility of the SARS-CoV-2 full spike protein as a biomarker for PASC.

With the goal of discovering biomarkers that correlate with PASC, we measured the concentration of SARS-CoV-2 antigens and cytokines in plasma samples collected from a cohort of PASC and COVID-19 patients. Most notably, we detected circulating SARS-CoV-2 spike in the majority of PASC patients, but in none of the COVID-19 patients. Although our sample size is small, the detection of spike at multiple time points 2-12 months after infection is compelling.

Preprint: Persistent circulating SARS-CoV-2 spike is associated with post-acute COVID-19 sequelae

yet another indication of "CoViD is terrible" ...

DJ-If these kind of findings are correct we soon will see outcomes....Excess deaths [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps is not -yet- alarming...

In conclusion, our study indicates that HIV/AIDS and SARS-CoV–2/COVID–19 have some unquestionable similarities and some relevant differences in their ability to elicit immune response in their hosts. Comparison of their effects on serum levels of lymphocytes subpopulations indicate that both viruses produce a comparable reduction in CD4+ T cells, but they differ in their effects on the CD8+ T cell subpopulation and NK cells. SARS-CoV–2 virus is associated with a marked reduction of CD8+ T cells and a more pronounced reduction of NK cells, whereas in HIV infected patients CD8+ cells are slightly elevated or normal and their NK cells are reduced compared to normal levels but less than those observed in COVID–19 patients. The reduction of the serum levels of these T cells subpopulations could be due to their homing at specific sites, as suggested by the results of FDG- PET/TC in HIV patients but no data are so far available in COVID–19 patients. These results indicate that immune system reacts differently to the two infections. The clarification of the differences and similarities between the two viruses will be useful to understand their mechanism of action and to design specific preventive and therapeutic approaches.

DJ-The TMN study still needs peer-review...And even then one has to see outcomes in real live...Science never is 100% perfect...they may have missed factors...unknown interactions...

I hate "fear-porn"; but if SARS-2 is "worse then the plague" (a. o. because it is a RNA-virus, airborne - not a bacteria spread by fleas...) on top of "climate collapse" the unfolding healthcrisis is worsening human chances for survival....

We may hate reality - still better face that reality...

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part 2,

Thailand Medical News may "use words" I would not choose...Still it most of the time provides links; [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-forget-about-monkeypox-suspected-new-variant-of-salmonella-st34-strain-causing-new-outbreak-in-the-u-s-with-219-infected,-i-dead-and-12-in-ic[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-forget-about-monkeypox-suspected-new-variant-of-salmonella-st34-strain-causing-new-outbreak-in-the-u-s-with-219-infected,-i-dead-and-12-in-ic is linked to [url]https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/mgen/10.1099/mgen.0.000456[/url] or https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/mgen/10.1099/mgen.0.000456 ;

and a more readable [url]https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/backyardpoultry-06-22/index.html[/url] or https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/backyardpoultry-06-22/index.html and [url]https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/backyardpoultry-06-22/details.html[/url] or https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/backyardpoultry-06-22/details.html

DNA fingerprinting is performed on bacteria using a method called whole genome sequencing (WGS). WGS showed that bacteria from sick people’s samples are closely related genetically. This means that people in these outbreaks likely got sick from the same type of animal.

WGS was also used to identify any predicted antibiotic resistance for bacteria from 219 sick people’s samples. Of the 219 samples, 72 (33%) were predicted to be resistant to one or more of the following antibiotics: ampicillin (0.9%), kanamycin (0.5%), streptomycin (30.6%), sulfamethoxazole (0.9%), tetracycline (31.5%), and trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole (0.9%). Testing of bacteria from 2 sick people’s samples using standard antibiotic susceptibility testing methods by CDC’s National Antimicrobial Resistance Monitoring System (NARMS) confirmed these results (streptomycin and kanamycin were not tested by this method).

Most people with Salmonella illness recover without antibiotics. However, if antibiotics are needed, this resistance is unlikely to affect the choice of antibiotic used to treat most people.

For Europe [url]https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/3-june-update-monophasic-salmonella-typhimurium-outbreak-linked-chocolate-products[/url] or https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/3-june-update-monophasic-salmonella-typhimurium-outbreak-linked-chocolate-products (june 3) could be linked

DJ TMN claiming post-CoViD infection has immunity/defenses much weaker - giving room for much more diseases...(that also mutate faster since the hosts-immunity did change). 

If that would be correct -post CoViD = much less immunity- we may expect a major healthcrisis unfolding in non-human hosts...We -then (!!!)- only would be at the early start of maybe the worst healthcrisis beyond people ever could think of....

[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/pocket-pets/rabbit-hemorrhagic-disease-in-ontario-canada/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2022/06/articles/animals/pocket-pets/rabbit-hemorrhagic-disease-in-ontario-canada/ etc. could be CoViD related ?????

Again- I am just making up my mind...trying to understand why we are moving this close to World War Three....I hope to be 100% wrong !

If some of the ideas on post-CoViD immunity "problems" (HIV-like) would be correct we will learn much to soon....This pandemic is far worse then climate collapse if the immunity problem would be real....

Stay safe and sane !

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DJ, 

International situation; [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-sitrep-lysichansk-cauldron-sinking-morale-more-provocations.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-sitrep-lysichansk-cauldron-sinking-morale-more-provocations.html

The former CIA and intelligence bigwig Graham Fuller predicts a gloomy outcome of the U.S-Russia proxy war in Ukraine. Gloomy for Ukraine, the U.S. and Europe:

Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate.

American sanctions against Russia have turned out to be far more devastating to Europe than to Russia. The global economy has slowed and many developing nations face serious food shortages and risk of broad starvation.

There are already deep cracks in the European façade of so-called “NATO unity.” Western Europe will increasingly rue the day that it blindly followed the American Pied Piper to war against Russia. Indeed, this is not a Ukrainian-Russian war but an American-Russian war fought by proxy to the last Ukrainian.

Contrary to optimistic declarations, NATO may in fact ultimately emerge weakened. Western Europeans will think long and hard about the wisdom and deep costs of provoking deeper long term confrontations with Russia or other “competitors”of the US.

Europe will sooner or later return to the purchase of inexpensive Russian energy. Russia lies on the doorstep and a natural economic relationship with Russia will possess overwhelming logic in the end.

Europe already perceives the US as a declining power with an erratic and hypocritical foreign policy “vision” premised upon the desperate need to preserve “American leadership” in the world. America’s willingness to go to war to this end is increasingly dangerous to others.

All the above had already been said on this website in late February and March. But it is good to see that seasoned intelligence people are now coming to similar conclusions.

DJ, "The West" has gone mad....Looking for even more provocations...Kaliningrad, attacks on oil installations in the Black Sea...NATO is at war with Russia in Ukraine...The west does break all agreements it signed....

A "new G8" Russia, China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey, Brazil, Mexico may soon become a "new G20" including Argentina, South Africa, Nigeria, Philipines, Saudi Arabia etc. Sanction wars work both ways...The value of the US$, the Euro, UK-pound depends on international trade...China, India, Indonesia will not wait for "western sanctions" because of their increase of trade with Russia...certainly not when both the US and EU may still be importing Russian energy-sources, oil, gas, uranium...

The west may find itself economicly isolated...its fiat currencies dumped...without outside energy imports, without much export outside the west...

No doubt if Argentina would try to make the falklands Malvinas again it may find support from "the non-western block" now increasingly ruling the world...Why Brazil would NOT take French Guiana ? Or Venezuela go for the NL ABC-Islands; Aruba, Bonaire, Curacou ? 

"The West" allready was overstretched military by endless wars in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya etc....NATO, EU not knowing "wise limits" are selfdestructive...

-Just like the "international situation" is only getting worse, "leaders with NO strategy" are making the healthcrisis worse...

[url]https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam[/url] or https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam , [url]https://twitter.com/x2indspeculator[/url] or https://twitter.com/x2indspeculator etc. is full of it;

-ignoring diseases - infected people forced to go to their job/school

-virus remaining in the body long time

-reinfection resulting in increased risk of dying

-economy/profits above public health

Of course the west now going for coal -because they started a war with Russia- (NATO expansionism, biden claiming Putin made trump US president...) so no Russian (at least somewhat) cleaner gas going west...Maybe China, India may use less coal ? 

[url]https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3749.450.html[/url] or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3749.450.html I would not be surprised if 2022 did see a new record-low arctic sea-ice...

DJ-Maybe a reminder; governments are supposed to offer protection to their citizens...NOT to kill them for profit....

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DJ, 

US politics now split in four "groups"; republicans pro and anti-trump, democrats pro/anti biden...Obama versus clinton-club...[url]https://southfront.org/how-did-america-become-ruled-by-its-military-industrial-complex/[/url] or https://southfront.org/how-did-america-become-ruled-by-its-military-industrial-complex/

The U.S. Government spends on its military, annually, in not just its ‘Defense’ Department, but all of its departments taken together, around $1.5 trillion dollars.  (Much of that money is hidden in the Treasury Department and others, in order to convey to the public the false idea that ‘only’ around 800 billion dollars annually is now being spent for the U.S. military.)

On 25 April 2022, the Stockholm Internal Peace Research Foundation (SIPRI) headlined “World military expenditure passes $2 trillion for first time”, and reported that, “US military spending amounted to $801 billion in 2021, a drop of 1.4 per cent from 2020. The US military burden decreased slightly from 3.7 per cent of GDP in 2020 to 3.5 per cent in 2021.” However, they did not include the full U.S. figure, but only the portions of it that are being paid out by the U.S. ‘Defense’ Department. Consequently, a more realistic global total would have been around $2.8 trillion, which is around twice the approximately $1.5T U.S. annual military expenditure. All of the world’s other 172 calculated countries, together, had spent an amount approximately equivalent to that.

DJ, "divide and rule" as a MIC-strategy....NATO is a "selling machine" for US weapons...NATO expansion as a motor for more military industrial complex...more profit from wars...

It puts [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/state-global-war-and-peace[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/state-global-war-and-peace this story in another view...The US - as a global #1 - has to be the most agressive nation. Just like the UK was when the UK "ruled the waves/world"...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWXLyi1k5wU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWXLyi1k5wU Military summary discussing [url]https://liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/ (this map is ignoring Russian-real info...followed ukraine lies...) .

The outcome [url]https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxhvaajoJjeVVKV_skcz18dnrxk5RvvfXN[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxhvaajoJjeVVKV_skcz18dnrxk5RvvfXN ; Turkey is talking about a possible withdrawal from NATO. The oldest Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet writes that the country has not received any benefits from membership in the Alliance. The way out of it promises Ankara a lot of advantages. The loss of Turkey will mean for NATO the loss of influence in the Caucasus and Central Asia. For Ankara, this will be a transition to a strategic partnership with Russia and Iran, as well as integration into the SCO and BRICS.

From Scott Ritter; in fact "end of NATO".....In the present Ukraine war Ukraine is using 6,000 shells per day...Russia is using 60,000 per day...kill-ratio went from 6 Ukraine soldiers killed versus 1 Russian soldier to 15-20 Ukraine soldiers killed versus 1 Russian one...Russia is using an amount of shells per day-in its artillery war-the same the US used in all of the Iraq 2003 invasion...(wich was a bombing war). 

Ukraine is asking for more artillery then the US has in active duty, more tanks then France and Germany combined have...

From a military point of view this war is insanity....Ukraine military stranded on a frontline without supplies simply have no chance...Poland now rounding up Ukraine men to send them back to Ukraine...other countries may follow that "solution for a refugee crisis they created themselves". Quit likely 10 million Ukranians had to flee...

The US biden/clinton-club, blaming Putin for the trump presidency, is pushing the world into total disaster....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWT95agquQw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWT95agquQw Scott Ritter (a.o.) US (via satellite/drones) telling Ukraine what targets to shell with NATO artillery...DJ-Some claims are 20,000 non Ukraine fighters involved in the Ukraine war on the Kiev-side...a lot of them Polish...DJ-I speculate "East European countries may have Soviet era planes - in Ukraine colors - flown by NATO pilots, using in part NATO weapons...NATO forces using anti ship weapons in Odessa-then move back to Romania...Russian fleet evacuated from Crimea to outrun western anti ship missiles...

DJ-A few small mutations can make a virus much more infectious...In Ukraine we are "way to close" to NATO forces fighting Russia...We gotta get out of this place ! 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/massive-show-of-force-china-sends-29-war-planes-into-taiwan-air-defense-id-zone[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/massive-show-of-force-china-sends-29-war-planes-into-taiwan-air-defense-id-zone China is getting ready....

If Turkey leaves NATO it most likely will join the SCO, Russian-led EurAsianEconomic Union [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union etc. Russia is trying to get the Kurds in Syria to join the Assad Army...

-Why this much on the war ? Because it is showing a total lack of strategy we also see in this pandemic ! 

"Freedom" has become freedom for a virus to spread...even when we know the long term damage from the virus may be much worse then the short term. Even when the short term damage most likely already killed over 20 million people...

There is NO plan, NO strategy...only denial and lies ! In neo-con, neo-liberal ruled countries further decrease of funds for public health...further increase of billionaires...[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/washington-university-study-confirms-that-repeated-infections-with-sars-cov-2-will-lead-to-increased-risk-of-disease-severity,-mortality-and-worse-pas[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/washington-university-study-confirms-that-repeated-infections-with-sars-cov-2-will-lead-to-increased-risk-of-disease-severity,-mortality-and-worse-pas 

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/21/covid-hospital-total-tops-600-first-time-weeks-26500-new-coronavirus-infections[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/21/covid-hospital-total-tops-600-first-time-weeks-26500-new-coronavirus-infections 

Ryan Hisner

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So I recently discovered maybe the scariest SARS-CoV-2 sequence since Omicron. Like Omicron, it possesses many infamous mutations known to confer immune escape & transmissibility. Unlike Omicron, it does not appear to have any severity-attenuating mutations, e.g. N969K. 1/12

DJ, we need a united world to fight climate change and an exploding healthcrisis...but again-during a crisis-politics starts another war...

Would biden start a war against Russia without the pandemic ? Yes-I think he believes "Putin was able to get trump in the white house" -so biden now wants to punish Putin...Also believing the US -with spending over half of all global spending on the military- would be superior to Russia...ignoring the lessons from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria....

SARS-2 is not "new" in the sense that we had SARS-1 in 2003, lots of other diseases becoming massive problems/killers...Some diseases did damage immunity (HIV-AIDS but also CF-IDS [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome#Immunological[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome#Immunological )

In many countries LC (Long CoViD) cases are ignored or treated as "mental cases" when "the medical world" can not find any abnormalities....So-tens of millions of people suffer from long term health issues basiccally without any help...in some cases even losing their homes...(while military spending is going into trillions...). 

Normalizing mass casualties & disability is a dangerous game. Each week: 2100 people die from Covid For survivors: 1 in 5 have Long Covid The pandemic isn’t over. Especially for our most vulnerable.

and

Misled by dubious experts—children were initially thought to be spared from the worst of #COVID19–but more than 2 years later, #longCOVID clinics are full of pediatric patients—parents now looking for guidance on a range of symptoms affecting their kids.

DJ, The "don't look up" -if you ignore a problem it will go away- strategy itself is the main disaster....

[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/arctic-sea-ice-june-2022-why-situation-is-so-dangerous.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/06/arctic-sea-ice-june-2022-why-situation-is-so-dangerous.html ;

Conclusion
In conclusion, temperatures could rise strongly in the Arctic soon, due to sea ice loss in combination with an upcoming El Niño and a peak in sunspots, with the potential to drive humans extinct as early as in 2025, while temperatures would continue to skyrocket in 2026, making it in many respects rather futile to speculate about what will happen beyond 2026. At the same time, the right thing to do now is to help avoid the worst things from happening, through comprehensive and effective action as described in the Climate Plan.

DJ...Because biden wants regime change in Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Turkey, Pakistan, Syria etc... we are now in a global war. The energy crisis is seeing more coal being used worsening even further the climate collapse...

Climate collapse is directly related to pandemics..."animals/humans" on the move to survive...

"How low can you go"? Coffee !

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DJ, 

In East-Ukraine/Donbas some indications Ukraine army is collapsing...In this pandemic no illusions left (for most) on chances of reinfection. It should end also the illusions of "herd immunity"..

A.o. 








#BreakingNews WHN declares #Monkeypox a #pandemic. There are now 3,417 confirmed cases reported across 58 countries and rapidly expanding across continents. It will not stop without concerted #precautionary global action. http://WorldHealthNetwork.global/monkeypoxdeclapoxdeclaration 


has been promoting "Zero-CoViD". In my opinion the only strategy making sense...A misinterpretation of "freedom" is giving all diseases room to spread ( https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/world/asia/china-omicron-study.html  etc. is anti-China US propaganda...a variation on the "lab-leak-blame-China" US propaganda...NOT related to science...).

Again this pandemic is the outcome of a total political failure ...profits seem to be more important then human lives....

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table now has global cases at +3% even with very limited testing (most testing DIY-at home, not ending up in most statistics...). Deaths worldwide (as far as deaths are tested for CoViD...a lot of long CoViD cases also die-but not within the 4 weeks...) still "put at" -14%....Excess deaths will be above normal in most places (both not that far...Long CoViD is a slow killer...). 

Europe cases +30%, deaths (also) -14%

North America cases -10%, deaths -28% (Mexico +59% for cases, +8% for deaths)

South America cases -10%, deaths -8%

Asia cases -15%, deaths -3% (India cases +42%, deaths there +73% !!!)

Africa cases +16%, deaths +8%

Oceania cases +3%, deaths +17%

The BA.5 (+) variant-still named "Omicron"-is on its way to global dominance...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hospitalization/england-over-1000-covid-19-hospitalizations-a-day/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/health/hospitalization/england-over-1000-covid-19-hospitalizations-a-day/ ;England is starting to see the results of its barmy “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy towards Covid-19 infections, as more than 1,000 people a day are now turning up at hospitals across the country with Covid related illnesses.

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But on the 13th February 2022, there were 32,308 Covid-19 cases recorded – more than twice as many cases per 1,000 hospitalizations as in June 2022. 

The ZOE Covid-19 app is currently showing more than 225,000 new symptomatic Covid cases a day.ZOE is also showing that around 2.5 million people currently have Covid (as new cases can take several weeks to recuperate).

Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t know.

DJ, In a crisis provoke a major war ! We need other politics, politicians not working only for the rich....

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/reinfection/uk-ons-large-increase-in-re-infections-since-omicron/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/reinfection/uk-ons-large-increase-in-re-infections-since-omicron/

ONS: “There has been a large increase in the rates for all re-infections and re-infections with a high viral load since the Omicron variants became most common.”

  • The risk of coronavirus (COVID-19) re-infection was approximately seven times higher in the period when the Omicron variants were most common (20 December 2021 to 4 June 2022), compared with when the Delta variant was most common (17 May to 19 December 2021).
  • Those in older age groups were less likely to be re-infected than those in younger age groups, from 2 July 2020 to 4 June 2022.
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and 

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/reinfection/preprint-outcomes-of-sars-cov-2-reinfection/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/science/reinfection/preprint-outcomes-of-sars-cov-2-reinfection/ ;

“Reinfection contributes additional risks of all-cause mortality, hospitalization, and adverse health outcomes in the pulmonary and several extrapulmonary organ systems.”.

We show that compared to people with first infection, reinfection contributes additional risks of all-cause mortality, hospitalization, and adverse health outcomes in the pulmonary and several extrapulmonary organ systems (cardiovascular disorders, coagulation and hematologic disorders, diabetes, fatigue, gastrointestinal disorders, kidney disorders, mental health disorders, musculoskeletal disorders, and neurologic disorders); the risks were evident in those who were unvaccinated, had 1 shot, or 2 or more shots prior to the second infection; the risks were most pronounced in the acute phase, but persisted in the post-acute phase of reinfection, and most were still evident at 6 months after reinfection. 

DJ Politicians, health-institutions NOT stopping the spread of diseases are killing people...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory real number must be in the tens of thousends...As far as I know still NO study on CoViD links...Does prior CoViD infection result in more likely to catch monkeypox ? 

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/who-warns-that-polio-virus-have-been-detected-in-sewage-samples-in-london-are-brits-literally-walking-cesspools-of-various-pathogens[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/who-warns-that-polio-virus-have-been-detected-in-sewage-samples-in-london-are-brits-literally-walking-cesspools-of-various-pathogens and [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking!-u-s-cdc-and-u-s-nih-study-shows-an-increase-of-americans-dying-from-fungal-infections-in-the-midst-of-the-sars-cov-2-pandemic[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking!-u-s-cdc-and-u-s-nih-study-shows-an-increase-of-americans-dying-from-fungal-infections-in-the-midst-of-the-sars-cov-2-pandemic 

DJ-Just more indications the very large spread of all kinds of CoViD-variants but in human and non-human hosts is destroying "global human immunity" and opening the doors to all kinds of other diseases as well....

We urgently need international cooperation to deal with global problems...instead we get a NATO-expansion war...

SARS-CoV-2 has a variety of accessory proteins that help it evade and suppress our immune system. Recent findings suggest that the accessory protein ORF7a helps suppress our immune cells, making it harder for the virus to be detected.

DJ, Science has "no point" when politics simply ignore science, killing at the end billions of people...

Coffee !

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Strategy; a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim.

DJ, If western governments long-term aim is limiting disease, keep a global economy going...what is going wrong ? 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/the-neocons-dream-decolonize-russia-re-colonize-china-.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/the-neocons-dream-decolonize-russia-re-colonize-china-.html  and [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/two-big-errors-about-russia-by-helmholtz-smith.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/two-big-errors-about-russia-by-helmholtz-smith.html

American and Western policy towards Russia is founded on two serious errors. (A considerable understatement, of course – the past thirty years show that conventional Western ideas of Russia are almost completely wrong.)

But these two are endlessly repeated and, no matter how many times they are proven wrong, they remain the foundational assumptions of the West's attempts to change or control Russia.

First is the idea that the Russian economy is feeble, unbalanced and dependent on income from the West. The second is that Putin is the chief of a band of thieves who, who if made to feel pain, will get rid of him. Sanctions will collapse the first and bring the pain to cause the second. (Another delusion is that once Putin goes, everything will be to the West's liking – but I did say there was a multitude of misconceptions.)

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These two errors run on and on. Russia is now the most sanctioned country ever and Western politicians still think another round of "tough sanctions" will do the job. But the more sanctions it survives, the more sanction-proof Russia becomes.

Wars are irruptions of brutal reality into fantasy and the Ukraine war is laying bare the empty complacency at the root of the West's view of Russia. It's going to be a cold hungry winter in Europe and in parts of America. Can't blame Putin forever.

But the depressing truth is that minds are rarely changed, you have to change the man. How much longer will the West's leaders outlast their repeated failures?

DJ, outcome [url]https://southfront.org/in-video-21-ukrainian-positions-destroyed-in-mykolaiv-region/[/url] or https://southfront.org/in-video-21-ukrainian-positions-destroyed-in-mykolaiv-region/ 

and of course "blame Putin"...but it was the west that "needs to put" NATO, EU east....ignoring all warnings from Russia, China....

So now [url]http://thesaker.is/exile-on-main-street-the-sound-of-the-unipolar-world-fading-away/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/exile-on-main-street-the-sound-of-the-unipolar-world-fading-away/ ;

Sovereignty cannot be partial. Either you’re a sovereign or a colony.

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The EU’s “direct losses”, as Putin stressed, provoked by the sanctions hysteria, “could exceed $400 billion a year”. Russia’s energy earnings have hit record levels. The ruble is at a 7-year high against the euro.

DJ [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqXC22fRCBE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqXC22fRCBE Alexander Mercouris; Day of Disaster for Ukraine in Donbass, UK's Leading Military Think Tank Confirms US Unable to Re-Arm Ukraine News Topic 532 The Return of Industrial Warfare https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-rese...

So that is the socio-economic outcome of "the west trying to rule the world" without any longer knowing that world...It is not only Ukraine that is losing the war...WE are losing the war...

Ukraine is using/losing weapons in weeks that may cost the west years to replace-but then we can not have sanctions...[url]https://southfront.org/russian-army-captured-two-french-caesar-howitzers-from-kiev-forces/[/url] or https://southfront.org/russian-army-captured-two-french-caesar-howitzers-from-kiev-forces/ ...

Loads of western weapons end up in Russian/militia hands...

-Why the "war-story" ? Because it shows how ignorance and outright stupidity "as a strategy" can destroy...

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table global CoViD cases +5% and we may miss most cases...Just under 4 million new cases last week-just over that number this week...9,427 deaths linked to CoViD last week -11% 8,431 deaths this week people died testing positive for Covid within 4 weeks...Excess deaths going up [url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/23/covid-vaccines-linked-excess-mortality-says-dutch-stats-office[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/06/23/covid-vaccines-linked-excess-mortality-says-dutch-stats-office

CBS looked at excess mortality over the past years - when more people died than expected for the time of year. That happened four times in 2020 and 2021: in March and April 2020, in August 2020, between September 2020 and January 2021, and between August and December 2021.

A heat wave caused the second wave of excess mortality. In the first period, “the excess mortality was as large as the number of people CBS registered with Covid-19 as the cause of death.” In the third wave, more people died from the coronavirus than there was excess mortality. In both these periods, a relatively large number of people died of a coronavirus infection.


The last wave of excess mortality was last fall. The number of people who died on top of the expected level was greater than the number of coronavirus deaths. Other things must have therefore caused the peak in the number of deaths. Further research should clarify this, according to CBS. 

In 2020 and 2021, approximately 340,000 people died in the Netherlands. That is about 30,000 more people “than expected if there had been no Covid-19 epidemic.”

DJ NL has 22,350 "official CoViD deaths"....

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/stanford-study-shows-that-the-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-is-able-to-evade-cytotoxic-responses-of-natural-killer-cells-and-cause-immune-dysfunction[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/stanford-study-shows-that-the-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-is-able-to-evade-cytotoxic-responses-of-natural-killer-cells-and-cause-immune-dysfunction is related to a.o. [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-possible-new-strain-of-neisseria-meningitidis-bacteria-causing-outbreak-of-deadly-meningitis-among-gay-men-in-america-cdc-issues-warning[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-possible-new-strain-of-neisseria-meningitidis-bacteria-causing-outbreak-of-deadly-meningitis-among-gay-men-in-america-cdc-issues-warning (polio [url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/uk-vaccine-derived-polio-outbreak-in-london/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/uk-vaccine-derived-polio-outbreak-in-london/ , [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_monkeypox_outbreak#Cases_per_country_and_territory (must be tens-of-thousends of cases) etc also most likely related to an out of control ignored CoViD pandemic...NO strategy...

Looks like long COVID (post-acute sequelae of COVID19 = PASC) is very real, as PASC diagnosis, based mostly on symptom self-report, is associated with persistence of SARSCoV2 proteins in the blood. Hard to conjure up proteins by imagination alone.

DJ...We did know people had reinfections for over a year...We could have learned that from Brazil, Iran...many other places...Herd/group-immunity was "wishfull non-science"...but even lots of experts ignored it...So now over 50 non-human hosts have been detected with CoViD...from US-deer to NYC-mice...We knew many minks did catch it...cats more likely then dogs...

OF COURSE !!! We knew from MERS-corona-virus in camels...We had SARS-1 in 2003 but still "lab-leak = blame China" was "western wisdom/insanity"...with NY-times, UK-guardian, bbc etc the main producers of fake-news ! (Both on the war, still running far behind the battlefield reality...and on the pandemic "o so mild"...). 

Is there any hope left ? 

YES !!!!

-nasal/new vaccines may be promissing

-STOP THE SPREAD !!! WE-humans-still are doing the most of the viral/variant spread...stop (air)travel...!

-Invest in better healthcare...from monitoring/sewage early detection to better food, healthy cities (with much less cars !)

-Limit meatproduction ! Most diseases start with the "zillions of animals" we eat...they are taking revenge !

-Stop fighting-start talking ! We need international cooperation to get out of these crises !

So-basic-hope has to be in human wisdom....We should not kill ourselves....

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I do not want to repeat myself...

[url]https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-ba-5-now-dominant-at-nearly-60-of-sequences/[/url] or https://www.coronaheadsup.com/europe/denmark/denmark-ba-5-now-dominant-at-nearly-60-of-sequences/

Denmark’s latest Covid-19 report is out, and it shows another big increase in the BA.5 variant, which is now dominant in the country with nearly 60% of all sequences.

There were nearly 50 different variants of SARS-CoV-2 recorded in Denmark in the last week.

DJ, US;








#COVID19 #VariantDashboard - #UnitedStates  TOP lineages (15-DAY TRENDS): 47.40% BA.2.12.1**, 20.54% BA.5^^, 12.91% BA.2,   9.98% BA.4^^,   3.95% BA.2.12, 1.12% BA.2.3 and 0.98% BA.2.9 **S:L452Q; ^^S:L452R/F486V Tracker: http://tinyurl.com/mryj4uu7  #OmicronUpdates 06/24/22

However since some newer BA.5 subvariants may not yet be included in data-bases, they may be missing in sequencing...

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/study-finds-that-home-based-transcutaneous-auricular-vagus-nerve-stimulation-tavns-therapy-can-help-in-long-covid[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/study-finds-that-home-based-transcutaneous-auricular-vagus-nerve-stimulation-tavns-therapy-can-help-in-long-covid if it works, it works....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWrU0lF0CF8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWrU0lF0CF8 Prof. Tim Spector ZOEtracker-app (of course de-funded by bojo...)

This week, Tim is talking about the new COVID wave we’re currently in driven by the Omicron BA.5 variant. He’ll take you through the data including the number of new daily Long COVID cases. Tim also discusses the symptoms trend we’re seeing in the ZOE Health Study app. 

link [url]https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time[/url] or https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data#levels-over-time UK (BA.5 most) cases going up fast...

I don't think we've ever faced a pathogen like covid in recorded history. Airborne, easily transmitted, severe, widespread in terms of affected systems, immune dysfunction, persistent and capable of short-interval reinfection. Why anyone wants to downplay this is beyond me.

and