We live a few miles away from Davis Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, and I just learned from a contractor that they have invoked HPCON CHARLIE precautions. 

https://kvoa.com/news/2020/03/25/davis-monthan-afb-suspends-air-operations-steps-up-health-protection-in-response-to-covid-19/ - https://kvoa.com/news/2020/03/25/davis-monthan-afb-suspends-air-operations-steps-up-health-protection-in-response-to-covid-19/

"This action is in response to the Secretary of Defense order for all Department of Defense Components to implement Health Protection Condition Charlie as a result of COVID-19. 

To elaborate, HPCON Charlie situations are defined as high morbidity epidemic or contamination, according to DMAFB's health protection measures diagram. 

Examples of HPCON Charlie measures, according to DMAFB's health protection measures diagram, include social distancing, shelter-in-place indoors, or if directed, donate respirators, mass distribution of medical countermeasures, if applicable."

.....DMAFB has suspended air operations, which I've never heard of before.  

US Army is now at HPCON DELTA, their highest level. 

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/ - https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/

Stay tuned, folks.

I've said more then once that 'there is something bigger at play here'...

So, We have the US Army at highest level of alert... 

Have heard reports the US military are moving to within 30 miles of Canadian border to supposedly "keep Canadians from illegally entering the USA"... ummm we have WAY less people spread out over double the space, great medical staff and systems (or at least higher rated then US) and so far approx. 3600 cases w/35 dead  (vs 79,000+cases and over 1100 dead) - why is someone going to sneak across border now??? 

So.... WT# is going on??? Sorry for bluntness but this is getting so far beyond anything akin to a reasonable response I HAVE to ask that!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canada-forcefully-opposed-to-us-idea-of-posting-soldiers-at-border-freeland/ar-BB11KBob?ocid=spartanntp - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canada-forcefully-opposed-to-us-idea-of-posting-soldiers-at-border-freeland/ar-BB11KBob?ocid=spartanntp

Newbie1A wrote: Have heard reports the US military are moving to within 30 miles of Canadian border to supposedly "keep Canadians from illegally entering the USA"... ummm we have WAY less people spread out over double the space, great medical staff and systems (or at least higher rated then US) and so far approx. 3600 cases w/35 dead  (vs 79,000+cases and over 1100 dead) - why is someone going to sneak across border now???

  Good point. I know which country I'd rather be in, given the choice. Perhaps the Canadians should mount border patrols themselves.....

KiwiMum wrote: Newbie1A wrote: Have heard reports the US military are moving to within 30 miles of Canadian border to supposedly "keep Canadians from illegally entering the USA"... ummm we have WAY less people spread out over double the space, great medical staff and systems (or at least higher rated then US) and so far approx. 3600 cases w/35 dead  (vs 79,000+cases and over 1100 dead) - why is someone going to sneak across border now???    Good point. I know which country I'd rather be in, given the choice. Perhaps the Canadians should mount border patrols themselves.....

LOL!  My wife is 1/2 Canadian by birth, and believe me, we have discussed this!!  

I have NO IDEA what Trump is thinking my moving US troops anywhere!!  We still have troops deployed along the border with Mexico....if anything, I agree that the Canadians should mount border patrols against invading Yankees!!  

This is all getting too weird, folks. 

I doubt it is for Canadians.  It isn't just Canadians that cross the border.

Chinese about to invade through Canada because our forces are so spread thin?

Just my wild imagination?!!  

kaye kaye wrote: I doubt it is for Canadians.  It isn't just Canadians that cross the border.

US/Canada border is 5,525 miles/8,891 kilometers.  Where, exactly, will these troops be stationed along this border?  

Portions of the border cross immense freshwater lakes (Lake Superior especially), do we call in the US Navy or Coast Guard? 

I've NEVER seen a more incompetent US President than Donald J. Trump.  

it is only 1000it 

It is only 1000 reuter President Donald Trump is expected to send troops to the border with Canada to support border operations amid the growing coronavirus crisis, two U.S. government officials told Reuters. 

Under the plan, the Pentagon would send less than 1,000 troops to the U.S. northern border to support U.S. Customs and Border Protection efforts and several additional hundred troops to the border with Mexico, one of the officials said.

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More info on DEFCON Charlie. Looks like all bases are on it and they must take measures to reduce spread by limiting access to bases, personnel.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/ - https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/

CRS, DrPH wrote: kaye kaye wrote: I doubt it is for Canadians.  It isn't just Canadians that cross the border. US/Canada border is 5,525 miles/8,891 kilometers.  Where, exactly, will these troops be stationed along this border?   Portions of the border cross immense freshwater lakes (Lake Superior especially), do we call in the US Navy or Coast Guard?  I've NEVER seen a more incompetent US President than Donald J. Trump.

Good grief,  somebody call Washington and let them know we have an expert to tell troops where to go.

As I've mentioned before (I've said that a lot sorry), potentially a national security event. What does that mean? It means prepare to possibly see suspension of many laws. 

But I am at the moment leaning towards this is just an emergency directive for all military to PAY ATTENTION to maintain operational readiness, just in case any country gets any funny ideas.

Trump met with G-20 this morning. Talking with Xi tonight. Is he feeling backed into a corner? Blames China? The USS carrier Roosevelt pulled into Guam with 28 cases and likely many more. 

What if the US can't get the curve to bend sufficiently in time? 

CRS, DrPH wrote: We live a few miles away from Davis Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, and I just learned from a contractor that they have invoked HPCON CHARLIE precautions.  https://kvoa.com/news/2020/03/25/davis-monthan-afb-suspends-air-operations-steps-up-health-protection-in-response-to-covid-19/ - https://kvoa.com/news/2020/03/25/davis-monthan-afb-suspends-air-operations-steps-up-health-protection-in-response-to-covid-19/  to the Secretary of Defense order for all Department of Defense Components to implement Health Protection Condition Charlie as a result of COVID-19.  To elaborate, HPCON Charlie situations are defined as high morbidity epidemic or contamination, according to DMAFB's health protection measures diagram.  Examples of HPCON Charlie measures, according to DMAFB's health protection measures diagram, include social distancing, shelter-in-place indoors, or if directed, donate respirators, mass distribution of medical countermeasures, if applicable." .....DMAFB has suspended air operations, which I've never heard of before.   US Army is now at HPCON DELTA, their highest level.  https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/ - https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/03/25/army-goes-to-hpcon-charlie-across-all-bases-delta-for-contingency-forces/ Stay tuned, folks.

I grew up near an Army base, in a military family. If I’m correct, this is a very, very significant move for the bases to make.

Thank you, CRS, for bringing this to our attention. It’s definitely wise to keep an even closer eye on how things are going. It also makes me think that what we’re hearing in the press isn’t the full story (I’ve been thinking that, but with this news I’m prone to take whatever D.C. and the press puts out as pretty much fictional).  

Do you have any friends or contacts who are service members who are willing and/or able to keep you updated with what they’re hearing on their end? 

Ya'll don't think this is about supporting hospitals that have run out of PPE and supporting healthcare workers?  I know one of our local hospitals said they would be out of PPE by 8 p.m. tonight.  I know other hospitals are in dire straits, also.

In UK today it has been reported that we had  Russian vessels entering and staying in our waters.  Reports say 7 ships sat off the UK coast, and weren't for moving.  Royal Navy had to shadow them out.

Still very strange. Last month our UK airforce had to scramble Typhoons to intercept 2 Russian "Bear bombers " flying over Scotland.

Maybe they are just testing how vulnerable we are under pressure.

Royal Navy shadows Russian ships after 'high activity' in Channel | Royal Navy | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/26/royal-navy-shadows-russian-ships-after-high-activity-in-channel - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/26/royal-navy-shadows-russian-ships-after-high-activity-in-channel

The seven Russian ships – two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships – were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed to shadow the Russians.

 Royal Navy ships were involved in a major operation shadowing seven Russian vessels who had lingered in the Channel for several days this month as the coronavirus crisis was beginning to worsen in the UK

Perhaps our soldiers are not to keep Canadians and Mexicans out, rather Americans IN!

We are now the largest health threat to the world, by number of active cases.

Also, remember how we used to say judge not the words but actions of China? Same with US. We now have infinite money printing, a FED directly buying assets, emergency legislation, full scale mobilization, market pumping, etc. AND we are being gaslighted by the President. 

It's serious, but it's what you are not being told. Do you trust your government to tell the truth? They are lying every single day. 

With the closure of international borders there has been a strain on personnel.  There are potential crossings that are not normally assigned a person, which now requires a person.  There is extended shifts, such as 24 hours manned access areas which had not been managed like that before this closure.  I am sure the Border Patrol is stretched pretty thin at this point and as a responsible response they may now be supported by military personnel.  This is just the proper action to support the men and women that provide border security on a daily basis, and no reason to think this is some great government conspiracy deployement.  I would think that most countries, even insignificant ones (New Zealand, Scotland) would support their local authorities at border crossings, ports or other access areas to the country with military personnel if they need to.  

Ooouch Rod Tahoe....Wouldn't call Scotland insignificant.  The entire British nuclear weapons arsenal are in Scotland....

Oh flower of Scotland...

RodTahoe wrote:  I would think that most countries, even insignificant ones (New Zealand, Scotland) would support their local authorities at border crossings, ports or other access areas to the country with military personnel if they need to.

Come'on now kids - play nice!  I've been to New Zealand and it's anything but insignificant - a million plus sheep will gladly agree with me...those who have been will get it! 

And Scotland... don't infringe on Bravehearts home stomping grounds - thou shouldn't mess with men in kilts! 

Hazelpad wrote: Ooouch Rod Tahoe....Wouldn't call Scotland insignificant.  The entire British nuclear weapons arsenal are in Scotland.... Oh flower of Scotland...

I totally just learned something! I had NO idea. 

BabyCat wrote: Perhaps our soldiers are not to keep Canadians and Mexicans out, rather Americans IN! We are now the largest health threat to the world, by number of active cases.

Yeah...so stay the heck home would ya?!?!?!?!        

BabyCat wrote: Also, remember how we used to say judge not the words but actions of China? Same with US. We now have infinite money printing, a FED directly buying assets, emergency legislation, full scale mobilization, market pumping, etc. AND we are being gaslighted by the President.  It's serious, but it's what you are not being told. Do you trust your government to tell the truth? They are lying every single day.

I trust NO government to truly do what's right by the people vs their own back pockets and crony friends.  Why I keep asking 'what is the big picture driving this (over) reaction'...

it's interesting that the Mexicans are now manning their borders to stop people crossing from the US. Oh how the world turns!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656

BeachMama wrote: Do you have any friends or contacts who are service members who are willing and/or able to keep you updated with what they’re hearing on their end?

No, I have high level contacts with the FBI.  I'm a healthcare/public health subject matter expert to the FBI. 

Thanks for confirming what I surmised - this is a BFD for the military to go to this level of alert.   Be safe out there, BM!!  

KiwiMum wrote: it's interesting that the Mexicans are now manning their borders to stop people crossing from the US. Oh how the world turns! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656

Nogales, AZ is 42 miles (67.59 km) from my front door!  It is probably all the Yanks going to Mexico, looking for loo paper!!  LOL!!  

Ihe Irish wear kilts too, but one 'tartan' for the whole country, rather than individual tribes or clans.  The Highland Scots are the Scotia tribe - from Ireland!

An Irishman loves a fight!  But we threw the Scotia out for being too agressive.

Tiny yes, but BEWARE men (and women*) in kilts.   Oh, and anyone whose surname begins Mac, Mc or O'.

*Have a look at this Celt if you don't believe me https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-boudicca/ - https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-boudicca/ The Celts filled Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Brittany, plus a few scattered pockets around England. The Romans eventually built Hadrian's wall to keep them out of England. It did not work, walls never do. Now the Scots would like to keep the English on the Roman side out - Oh how the world turns.

For the benefit of Rod Tahoe, here are a few facts about the 'insignificant' country New Zealand:  

A, New Zealand was the first country to take territory from the Germans in the Second World War - an island in the Pacific.  The Maori regiment was renowned for its courage and success.  One officer got two VCs and a knighthood instead of a third.  New Zealand went to war the day Britain declared it.  The Americans did not come in to it until 1942, when the Japanease kicked their arse at Pearl Harbour.

B, NZ had a national health service two years before England.  The Maori people were so respected for their military prowess, that Great Britain, which was still the world superpower in those days, signed a treaty with the native Maori people.  Furthermore, after the war, until the Brits abandoned them by joining the EU, New Zealand had virtually fed Britain with freezer ships full of lamb, butter and cheese amongst other things.  While we are on the subject, the British people voted to join the EEC - I voted no.  There was no public vote to join the EU and abandon New Zealand and Australia.  Also pray we don't get another ice age, or the water will drop and the mighty continent of Zelandia will rise from the sea - NZ is just the highland tip of that land.

C, They did not charge Britain with lease lend payments; nor did they, even when Britain was at war, supply Germany with aircraft engine parts, ball bearings etc..

Don't pi$$ me off by insulting the nation or country of my childhood, which I will always love and protect.

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BeachMama wrote: Hazelpad wrote: Ooouch Rod Tahoe....Wouldn't call Scotland insignificant.  The entire British nuclear weapons arsenal are in Scotland.... Oh flower of Scotland... I totally just learned something! I had NO idea.

Of course they are.  Didn't think the Queen Mum wants them in her backyard, do ye?

Scotland  IS  her backyard.  Balmoral is her favourite castle and Prince Charles is here in Aberdeenshire right now.  

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/us-army-goes-to-highest-state-of-health-protection-hpcon-delta[/url] DJ-What I am getting is that Covid19 may be widespread IN the military-so US forces spreading to limit getting infected ? 

US Army Goes To Highest State of Health Protection:

SUBJECT: FRAGO 13 TO HQDA EXORD 144-20 ARMY WIDE PREPAREDNESS AND
RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS (COVID-19) OUTBREAK//
(U) REFERENCES.
REF//A/ THROUGH REF//WW/ NO CHANGE.
REF//XX/ [ADD] FRAGO 12 TO HQDA EXORD 144-20 ARMY WIDE PREPAREDNESS
AND RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS (COVID-19) OUTBREAK, DTG: 230210Z MAR
20//
1. (U) SITUATION. [ADD] MITIGATION MEASURES TAKEN BY THE ARMY TO
BLUNT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 HAVE PROVEN INSUFFICIENT. COVID-19
CONTINUES TO SPREAD GEOGRAPHICALLY AS THE NUMBER OF INFECTED PERSONS
CONTINUES TO RISE. CIVILIAN CAPABILITY AND CAPACITY ARE BECOMING MORE
STRESSED AS DENSE POPULATION CENTERS CONTINUE TO REPORT HIGHER RATES
OF INFECTION THAT ARE IMPACTING MAJOR TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND SUPPLY
CHAINS. ADDITIONAL MEASURES AND ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED TO PROTECT THE
FORCE FROM FURTHER SPREAD OF COVID-19. FOR EXAMPLE, TO MAINTAIN
STRATEGIC READINESS AND PRESERVE OUR RAPID-RESPONSE CAPABILITIES, WE
ARE PLACING RAPID-RESPONSE FORCES UNDER HPCON DELTA.

HPCON Delta is the Army's highest state of Health Protection Condition levels. Severe restrictions on travel and anything that might expose Army personnel to a pathogen.

WillobyBrat wrote: For the benefit of Rod Tahoe, here are a few facts about the 'insignificant' country New Zealand:   A, New Zealand was the first country to take territory from the Germans in the Second World War - an island in the Pacific.  The Maori regiment was renowned for its courage and success.  One officer got two VCs and a knighthood instead of a third.  New Zealand went to war the day Britain declared it.  The Americans did not come in to it until 1942, when the Japanease kicked their arse at Pearl Harbour. B, NZ had a national health service two years before England.  The Maori people were so respected for their military prowess, that Great Britain, which was still the world superpower in those days, signed a treaty with the native Maori people.  Furthermore, after the war, until the Brits abandoned them by joining the EU, New Zealand had virtually fed Britain with freezer ships full of lamb, butter and cheese amongst other things.  While we are on the subject, the British people voted to join the EEC - I voted no.  There was no public vote to join the EU and abandon New Zealand and Australia.  Also pray we don't get another ice age, or the water will drop and the mighty continent of Zelandia will rise from the sea - NZ is just the highland tip of that land. C, They did not charge Britain with lease lend payments; nor did they, even when Britain was at war, supply Germany with aircraft engine parts, ball bearings etc.. Don't pi$$ me off by insulting the nation or country of my childhood, which I will always love and protect.

New Zealand was also the first country in the world to grant women the vote which happened in 1893. Countries like the US didn't follow until 1920.

Love you  guys giving the Yanks 

A history lesson

Might be a good idea for a few of them to get off the playstations stop watching the cage fighting ,

Put the guns away .....

And get an edukation...🤓

Take care all 

🤝🖖

Technophobe wrote: Scotland  IS  her backyard.  Balmoral is her favourite castle and Prince Charles is here in Aberdeenshire right now.

No offense meant.   Prince Charles recovering there I assume.

With five congress members (4 HR, 1 Senate) now +, and several Congressional aides +, and an aide to the DC mayor now passed, 

a possibility may be that the virus is more prevalent in DC than realized...

Boris Johnson, Prince Charles, The UK health minister are now positive, sadly

BabyCat wrote: With five congress members (4 HR, 1 Senate) now +, and several Congressional aides +, and an aide to the DC mayor now passed,  The Washington Post @washingtonpost · 1h Aide to D.C. Mayor Bowser dies of coronavirus, as officials warn people to stay home and away from others a possibility may be that the virus is more prevalent in DC than realized... Boris Johnson, Prince Charles, The UK health minister are now positive, sadly

And Trump will get it too as well as Pence.  They HAVE to meet with people part of the job.  So get ready for Trump to get it but I bet they will be giving him  Chloroquine, Zink, and a Zpak ASAP.  I bet they also have tha they have rendesovier (spelling?) at the WH as well as the plasma treatment.  He is the President of the United States.

I will pray for all to remain safe and healthy.

Ok, Carbon,   

It's a crap shoot really.  I guess it all comes down to personal preference.... don't like your stereotyping Americans.   We do our thing, you do yours.  It's important that we all learn to get along . What is your education ?  Curious, because you seem like a  smart chap.  

ME163, I don't think Carbon was addressing a stereotype to Americans on the whole...

Sheep Lady wrote: No offense meant.   Prince Charles recovering there I assume.

Holyrood Palace, Edinburgh

Balmoral Castle, Aberdeenshire

Craigowan Lodge, Aberdeenshire  (I think this is where HRH Charles is at present)

Birkhall, Aberdeenshire

Glamis Castle, Angus was rented by the Queen Mother  

There are loads of others they gave away, sold or rented out, those were the main ones

I would settle for a croft....much easier to heat than a castle.

I have to go back seven generations to get to a Scottish relative: Cathrine Burn whose family we can trace back several generations (to 1550) while living in Edinburgh.

EdwinSm, wrote: I would settle for a croft....much easier to heat than a castle. I have to go back seven generations to get to a Scottish relative: Cathrine Burn whose family we can trace back several generations (to 1550) while living in Edinburgh.

EdwinSm you are right.  Didn't think about having to lug the peat upstairs to sleep, lol.

Box, bed!  No heat necessary.  Modern version - kingspan ecotherm.

Technophobe wrote: Box, bed!  No heat necessary.  Modern version - kingspan ecotherm.

Love that idea!

Make sure to have a ventilation section, Kingspan does not breathe like traditional wood.

Since my surname is Davidson, I assume I'm Scottish

Hz

The history of the Davidson family begins among the Pictish clans ancient Scotland 

Do you feel the call of the hill, calling you home.  ( I would wait until we have more respirators )

BabyCat wrote: But I am at the moment leaning towards this is just an emergency directive for all military to PAY ATTENTION to maintain operational readiness, just in case any country gets any funny ideas.

OPSEC

As I thought. Good thing to stop reporting. China didn't say shit. We shouldn't either.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/pentagon-confirms-over-1000-covid-19-cases-among-military-tells-bases-stop-public-reporting - https://www.zerohedge.com/health/pentagon-confirms-over-1000-covid-19-cases-among-military-tells-bases-stop-public-reporting

 I think something big is up. Some early press nibbles of hinting it could have been a released bioweapon from China.

IMHO agree.

BabyCat wrote:  I think something big is up. Some early press nibbles of hinting it could have been a released bioweapon from China.

Yep, been thinking that for some time. The rhetoric on both sides is ratcheting up.

nc_girl wrote: Since my surname is Davidson, I assume I'm Scottish

If you are from the Old North State your probably are... my family is too.

Pompeo urges Americans abroad to return home immediately if able. Commercial flights may not be available.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html

Since the US has a raging epidemic, having them return doesn't make much sense.

Picture becoming clearer:

That's an advisory more in line with WAR. 

Mother of God, I hope I'm wrong.

As I mentioned in my exponential thread, [and predicted the timing of this balloon accurately ;) ] a possible NATIONAL SECURITY EVENT may be coming. A time when US national security is threatened. I imagine there are secret plans, secret orders/directives/authorities being dusted off and prepared at this very moment should things take a drastic turn for the worse.

If the US has proof this is a Chinese bioweapon, we'll get through the crisis, and then go obliterate the CCP.

You can argue that Donald J. Trump is the first US President to directly confront the Chinese Communist Party when he impossed tariffs on their imports. The economy would be considered President Trump's Achilles Heel to the CCP, so it would stand to reason they would release such a bioweapon in Wuhan because It would kill two birds with one stone. It would give them an excuse to quarantine the country and allow the army and police to put down the rebellion in Hong Kong and either imprison or kill of the dissidents throughout China without another Tiananmen Square. And, the virus has brought America's economy and stock market to its knees which the Democrats will attempt to use to their advantage this November. Asymmetrical warfare.

mrmouse1969 wrote: You can argue that Donald J. Trump is the first US President to directly confront the Chinese Communist Party when he impossed tariffs on their imports. The economy would be considered President Trump's Achilles Heel to the CCP, so it would stand to reason they would release such a bioweapon in Wuhan because It would kill two birds with one stone. It would give them an excuse to quarantine the country and allow the army and police to put down the rebellion in Hong Kong and either imprison or kill of the dissidents throughout China without another Tiananmen Square. And, the virus has brought America's economy and stock market to its knees which the Democrats will attempt to use to their advantage this November. Asymmetrical warfare.

Yes, very logical. I lived in China. The CCP is evil incarnate. 

I take it back. Trump has stood up, and is standing up to China. He's got my vote again. Now is the time for unity. You reminded me how much of a threat the CCP is.

    Surround yourself with people strong enough to change your mind.                                                         

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/15923-John_Wooden - John Wooden    

    Change your mind as often as possible. Just because you thought something yesterday doesn't mean you have to think it today. Don't ever become a prisoner of your own opinion      

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/4800-Harvey_Fierstein - Harvey Fierstein    

    Progress is impossible without change; and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.                                                                   

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/13418-George_Bernard_Shaw - George Bernard Shaw    

    Change your mind about something significant every day.                                                                         

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/5578-Malcolm_Gladwell - Malcolm Gladwell    

    The interesting thing is always to see if you can find a fact that will change your mind about something, to test and see if you can.                                                        

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/13038-Diane_Sawyer - Diane Sawyer    

    I wonder where you got that idea from? I mean, the idea that it's feeble to change your mind once it's made up. That's a wrong idea, you know. Make up your mind about things, by all means - but if something happens to show that you are wrong, then it is feeble not to change your mind, Elizabeth. Only the strongest people have the pluck to change their minds, and say so, if they see they have been wrong in their ideas.                                                                       

        https://www.azquotes.com/author/1559-Enid_Blyton - Enid Blyton    

The US military is worried about this virus compromising their ability to defend the United States and the rest of the free world! The "Big Stick" has over 200 personnel infected and it's  Captain has asked that the majority of the crew be evacuated and quarantined and the ship be cleaned from stem to stern. There is no place to SIP on a navy ship!  People on cruise ships have much more privacy than does your average swabby and look what's happening to them! I just hope they haven't waited to long!  Far winds and following seas!

The US MUST maintain operational readiness. If not, the power vacuurm will encourage bad actors. 

I suspect we might lob a few shortly to make a point.

If Putin is infected, and becomes ill, things could destabilize quickly. 

China just closed all its doors. 

Again, all these signs point also align with a preparation for war. 

This is a disaster bigger than I imagined. The scenarios are starting to spiral out of control. 

Asymmetrical warfare indeed. That's why Xi was part of this from the beginning and all the early samples were destroyed. 

I think he will become infamous.

Let's hope our US Space Force is operational. Remember, the stealth fighter was operational for years before it was revealed to the public. I live a block away from US Air Force housing, and for the better part of 20 years I'd routinely asked the officers who kept them up at night. The majority of them would say the Chinese!

Agree. Living there, I  saw quite a bit of Han racist arrogance -  to REALLY see racism, live in China as a weiguoren. The people, while generally peaceful and generous, are brainwashed and threatened and controlled to be fearful robots and rabbits, and allow themselves to be ruled by the most murderous, thieving, ruthluss band of gangsters the world has ever seen, for the longest period of time - the Chinese Communist Party.  I only hope the Chinese people rise up against their masters soon. They believe that all the other countries need to be subservient - in fact, in their system, their is only China at the center. Never trust the communists - in business, nor in politics. They will cheat you and laugh at you for being the fool to allow it. Nasty, nasty criminal syndicate. They torture political prisoners (Falun Dafa/Falun Gong) and remove their organs while alive. Organs they sell for profit for order, of course.  

The CCP is the world's enemy.

The people are well and good, like people everywhere, but think of the CCP like the Nazi Party in Germany., but was never defeated. Now that this criminal mafia has gotten rich by the West's stupidity (producing everything, then stealing everything), they've leapfrogged into the present as a powerful force to be reckoned with. They feel it's their destiny. I only wish I was still young enough to be part of a team of special operators working to save the free world from their evil ambitions.

I have been hesitant to bring this up, and chuck can speak to it better than I can, but with the viral event currently taking place, we are at a very dangerous place for a bad actor, or other entity to attack....especially with a bio agent.

The very defense we have against such an attack is severely taxed,and comprised at the moment.

I remember reading somewhere in the planning that during an event like this, our military posture would change both for mitigation and as a deterrent.

Fog of "war" is thick right now, It would take a less sophisticated  attack right now to really hurt us........this is a very real threat, considering the mindset of some of our enemy's.....

Posted this somewhere else but thought it might fit in with this topic.

China sent a huge amount of PPE and medical equipment recently as a good will gesture to aid Europe to help fight the coronavirus. It had been distributed and was in use in hospitals, but it now has to be all recalled because its faulty and dangerous.   Dam filters dont work and could hasten spread not reduce it.

What you are all saying here makes me think we should look the gift horse in the mouth.  Or is this unreasonable.

Hz

   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52092395 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52092395

Thorne! wrote: Pompeo urges Americans abroad to return home immediately if able. Commercial flights may not be available. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html

Pompeo shipped all of our masks & PPE over to China....WTF??  

https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/ - https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/

It's remarkable what you can find in public records...  

WitchMisspelled wrote: It's remarkable what you can find in public records...

Yes it is. 

CRS, DrPH wrote: Thorne! wrote: Pompeo urges Americans abroad to return home immediately if able. Commercial flights may not be available. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-update-us-travel-flights-home-return-pompeo-trump-a9438516.html Pompeo shipped all of our masks & PPE over to China....WTF??   https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/ - https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/

But that article was dated 7 Feb. Perhaps he thought they could help China contain it.

The Obama administration gave to the poor (Africa), the Trump administration gave to those in need (China).  BOTH should be applauded for it!

Whoever that was in the fed. selling masks on auction during the current crisis - he/she is a trator.

China is pushing the advantage in the South China Sea. 

They are conducting "military drills"

Its an incredibly provocative thing to do in these times. 

Scary Stuff

Not a surprise. They sense weakness with the Big Stick. 

They will be sorely mistaken. 

Heretofore unknown assets may be revealed. 

Rods From Gods?

Instantly vaporized if they try something?

If anything, President Trump has proven the existence of a Deep State in my humble opinion. Name me another US President that has had to endure the daily attacks form the Democratic Party, the media, Hollywood, Silicone Valley, professional athletes, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and the legions of citizens suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome with such a coordinated effort. President Trump could come out today, and declare a cure for cancer, and he'd probably be attacked for negatively effecting Big Pharma's bottom line!

I fancy myself as a political atheist, so please don't interpret me as being a blind follower of President Trump because of my comment above. I had an equal disdain for Obama as I did for George W. Bush. 

Fort Jackson here in Columbia, SC closed access by retirees and beneficiaries on Monday.