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Topic: Australia update
Posted By: roni3470
Subject: Australia update
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 2:08pm

hoping to hear from some of our Australia people on how things are going there.  How is COVID and how are your restrictions going or not going?  Also, when exactly is your flu season?  



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 2:15pm

All good on this side of the continent.......

Here in Perth WA

Near normal,

No community transmission,

Any cases we have are returning citizens....

We have done real well....

The eastern states not doing so good, 

We are in our flu season now, or just coming into it, 

I think the uptake of the flu shot, and social distancing,we might have a mild one here,

We are opposite to you, in the northern hemisphere,

so June 25th is the 6 month our winter, 

we just had our winter solstice 

you just had your summer solstice.....

And the bath  water goes down the plughole opposite to yours......lol





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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 3:06pm

Please do me a favor and keep us updated on how your flu season goes!  Feel free to private email me on  here or at mailto:rockinroni2@yahoo.com - rockinroni2@yahoo.com

I know we follow you guys in flu season, just wasn't sure when it started.  I am anxious to see how it goes and hope for the best for you! glad to hear you all faired well with COVID.



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Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 4:28pm

Any sign of mutated swine flu? Read in CNBC: https://apple.news/ARubi1pMZShu-ArWFYclrcg - https://apple.news/ARubi1pMZShu-ArWFYclrcg



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 11:19pm






Yes will be interesting to see what happens,

There has been a high 

Flu vaccine uptake this year, 

and with our borders shut, we might not have a flu season......

Not worried about Mutant swine flu.....

At the moment.....

WA is shut....lol




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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 11:27pm







ABC News: Nearly 200 new coronavirus infections recorded in Victoria.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-07/victoria-coronavirus-cases-rise/12428704 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-07/victoria-coronavirus-cases-rise/12428704



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 12:28pm

thanks for updating us Carbon!  DO you foresee what is happening in other parts coming to your area?



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 2:32pm





85% + of  people want our border kept tight shut.....

(We are the most isolated city in the world)

So I doubt and very much hope we don't see anything like what's happening over in Victoria.......



Perth is one of the most isolated major cities in the world. The nearest city with a population of more than 100,000 is Adelaide, over 2,100 km (1,305 mi) away. Perth is geographically closer to both East Timor (2,800 km or 1,700 mi), and Jakarta, Indonesia (3,000 km or 1,900 mi), than to Sydney (3,300 km or 2,100 mi).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth" style="max-height: 999999px; color: rgb(75, 17, 168); text-decoration: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1); margin: -27px -16px 0px; padding: 30px 16px 0px; display: block; line-height: 24px; overflow-wrap: break-word; - Perth - Wikipedia





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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 3:13pm










Just on our news 

Only 525 international arrivals allowed into Western Australia per week....

Then in quarantine for 2 weeks in  hotel under police guard.....

Yes we are taking it seriously.......



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Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 4:20pm

Melbourne just went into lock down 6 weeks. Good move!!



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 4:28pm

7






Should have never happened....

.

Heads will roll......

Cost is enormous.....

$1 billion a week.....



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 10:41pm





ABC News: Number of returning travellers allowed to enter Australia could be restricted as states carry coronavirus quarantine burden.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/scott-morrison-may-reduce-international-arrivals-coronavirus/12433896 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/scott-morrison-may-reduce-international-arrivals-coronavirus/12433896



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 12:12am

I guess I will have to cross Australia off my list of countries to visit:



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 3:14am





This could get interesting........


PerthNow: Western Australia’s closed border during coronavirus pandemic goes to Federal Court.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/western-australias-closed-border-during-coronavirus-pandemic-goes-to-federal-court-ng-b881602721z - https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/western-australias-closed-border-during-coronavirus-pandemic-goes-to-federal-court-ng-b881602721z



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Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 4:35am

Edwin nice pic for thread on laughs



Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 6:49am

Melbourne is ran by a complete idiot.

Leftist idiot! Dan Andrews.

He turned down assistance from the military when they were struggling. NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!

This is the same idiot did a "belt and road" deal with the Chinese communist party.


That's the state of affairs




Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 10:46am

  So sad for you



Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 1:42pm

ugh.....I swear, all of humanity has just gone mad!  the US is not doing well at all!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 2:36pm

Hey Cobber,

One of my Clients, is an out and out Liberal,

He said the other day he would vote for McGowen (Labor),because of his handling of this pandemic.....

I said can I have that in writing....lol

What's the odds we have a "Royal Commission"......





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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 5:28pm

Those poor people locked into that tower block in Melbourne. I'm sure that's illegal. We saw them on the news last night. 

Here in NZ, we've had to stop selling plane tickets to returning kiwis because so many are trying to come in, we can't quarantine them all. Every week increasing numbers are trying to relocate to live back here and they are estimating up to 1 million Kiwis live overseas, and our population back home is only 5 million. Can you imagine the pressure that would put on housing stock and rental stock if they all came home? 

No new tickets will be sold for 3 weeks, and people who already have them may be bumped off flights if quarantine spaces are not available for them.



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 2:21am

The sort of action that Australia and New Zealand are bringing in to slow the intake of returning citizens to the capacity of the quarantine centres sounds reasonable, but I know that here it would fall foul of the law here, where the Finnish Constitutional law guarantees the right of all citizens to return to their home country.  

The current closed boarder between Sweden and Finland is actually open for any returning Finnish citizens.  This has also lead to a lot of people with Swedish passports who now work in Finland to take out Finnish citizenship [reversing some of the mass exodus westward in the aftermath of WWII (and all the war payments to USSR].



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 2:57am

ABC News: The Melbourne school at the centre of one of Australia's biggest coronavirus clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/al-taqwa-college-coronavirus-covid19-cluster-melbourne-truganina/12437584 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/al-taqwa-college-coronavirus-covid19-cluster-melbourne-truganina/12437584



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 4:21pm






ABC News: WA tightens rules for arrivals from Victoria amid worsening coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/mandatory-covid-testing-for-vic-arrivals-into-wa-amid-outbreak/12438012 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/mandatory-covid-testing-for-vic-arrivals-into-wa-amid-outbreak/12438012



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 4:39pm

Crap!  Things have gotten worse in the US today too with 3 states reporting highest death rate since the start.  News reporters local and national, the board of directors, etc. all doing virtual work and calls yet they are planning the kids return to school.  Its nuts here right now!  Did you see the new outbreak in China?  that sure resembles the 1918 second wave.  Ugh...



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Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 4:59pm

I'm in Oklahoma, one of the state's getting worse, also one of the state's that opened early. People here aren't wearing masks, saying it takes away their rights,  blah, blah, blah, it's ridiculous. So we just keep getting worse and worse. 



Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 7:39pm

Hey Pen!  Yes, here too.  Our governor just said he wasn't putting a state wide mask law into effect just yet because we have been doing well but we are starting to trend bad.  Well on his post a bunch of people said they will NOT have someone tell them what they are and are not allowed to do and will not wear a mask in public.  Half of Americans are convinced this is some kind of political conspiracy so refuse to wear masks.  Whats it going to hurt to be on the safe side?  I just don't get it!



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NOW is the Season to Know

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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 8:54pm






I have to, the experience here is totally different,

Even though we have had no community transmission,people still socially distancing 

Some peeps wear masks,no one says anything.....

On pubic transport everyone sits/stands  with good space between,i even seen a lady ask a guy if it was OK to sit next to him as there was no spare seats.

I'm actually very proud of my fellow

 West AUSSIES...



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 10:57pm

Reuters: Australia to halve numbers of returning citizens as virus surges.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia/australia-to-halve-numbers-of-returning-citizens-as-virus-surges-idUSKBN24B00F?feedType=mktg&feedName=worldNews&WT.mc_id=Partner-Google - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia/australia-to-halve-numbers-of-returning-citizens-as-virus-surges-idUSKBN24B00F?feedType=mktg&feedName=worldNews&WT.mc_id=Partner-Google



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Posted By: Willimczik
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 6:32pm
 Posted: July 06 2020 at 2:15pm

All good on this side of the continent.......

Here in Perth WA

Near normal,

No community transmission,

Any cases we have are returning citizens....

We have done real well....


It means my theory is right!

Sniffing petrol kills all viruses.

q.e.d.



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 7:19pm




Telegraph.co.uk: A postcard from Perth, where Covid-19 doesn't exist.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/oceania/australia/articles/perth-australia-no-covid/ - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/oceania/australia/articles/perth-australia-no-covid/



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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 10:30pm

Originally posted by EdwinSm, EdwinSm, wrote:

The sort of action that Australia and New Zealand are bringing in to slow the intake of returning citizens to the capacity of the quarantine centres sounds reasonable, but I know that here it would fall foul of the law here, where the Finnish Constitutional law guarantees the right of all citizens to return to their home country.  

The current closed boarder between Sweden and Finland is actually open for any returning Finnish citizens.  This has also lead to a lot of people with Swedish passports who now work in Finland to take out Finnish citizenship [reversing some of the mass exodus westward in the aftermath of WWII (and all the war payments to USSR].

Here in NZ, any Kiwi citizen can return from overseas, but no one else. The problem we're having is that as the rest of the world gets worse, more and more kiwis are wanting to come home and in greater numbers than our guarded quaratine can handle. So far 30,000 have returned and we can quarantine 6,700 at a time under the watch of the Army.  So now they are being limited and allowed in when there is a quarantine space allocated to them. 

Unfortunately the huge numbers mean that non citizens or permanent residents can't come in except under special license. So even if you have a valid work visa, you can't come in. Preference is being given to Kiwis, and rightly so. Exceptions are being made but very rarely. A number of film crews have arrived and the Americas Cup teams are coming in but all these are chartering their own planes and paying for their quarantine and are highly motivated to quarantine properly. 

Almost every night we hear of people with work visas being stuck overseas and still paying rent here but they were out of the country when the lockdown began. I have no sympathy for them. There was plenty of warning and only an idiot would have gone overseas at the beginning of March, which is when these people went on holiday. Obviously they had it booked in advance and had paid for it and didn't want to lose their money but they are paying a very high price now for that stupidity.

We've caught 25 cases at the border in the last 3 weeks, and all of them are now in isolation until cleared of the virus. We currently have no cases on the streets so we're not social distancing at all but living life as normal except we can't fly overseas. It's not surprising that all these Kiwis want to come home to normality. That, plus it's great being a KIwi and living here!!!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 2:32am





Yes Kiwimum, You very lucky living in such a beautiful place, 

We lived it when we visited,

Lake Tekapo,

fantastic.....

I'd move there tomorrow... ..

Mind we live in in a Great place..... 



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 7:29am

Carbon, I wasn't able to read that article because you have to subscribe to read it:(



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 7:55am

Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

We currently have no cases on the streets so we're not social distancing at all but living life as normal except we can't fly overseas. 

How apt. A Kiwi is a bird that cannot fly.   

I am glad for you that so much is returning to normal.



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 2:27pm

Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

Carbon, I wasn't able to read that article because you have to subscribe to read it:(

It was just saying how well we've done over here......

Our "isolation"

 is the key.....

Let's just hope we keep our borders sealed......

(it was a post  to the snide remark made by someone  about petrol sniffing) I stayed polite...πŸ€—

Obviously  another fool.....

Chump supporter ....



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 2:51pm

ABC News: Expert highlights key differences in Melbourne and Sydney coronavirus clusters as NSW works to avoid second lockdown.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-14/coronavirus-clusters-melbourne-sydney-as-second-lockdown-looms/12449730 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-14/coronavirus-clusters-melbourne-sydney-as-second-lockdown-looms/12449730



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 1:46pm

Gotcha.  As I am sitting here reading todays updates, they just said on the news that a man in Utah died while in line in his car to get a COVID test.  That is messed up!  In the US our testing is now at a 7-9 day delay.  So these people are going about their business for 7-9 days until they get their test results, potentially infecting others if they are positive.  Really worried about the US!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 5:46pm

ABC News: Analysis: We're left in an impossible position as two opposing positions emerge in Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-18/coronavirus-in-nsw-victoria-shows-fracture-in-national-response/12468300 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-18/coronavirus-in-nsw-victoria-shows-fracture-in-national-response/12468300



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 8:46pm

😊



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 3:57pm

Herald Sun: Medical experts call for stage four restrictions as Victoria records 428 new cases, three more deaths.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/lockeddown-victorians-to-pay-if-they-stray-from-home/news-story/f65b0276d7e0c8cbe614de357060ef3b - https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/lockeddown-victorians-to-pay-if-they-stray-from-home/news-story/f65b0276d7e0c8cbe614de357060ef3b



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 4:01pm

Things go pear shaped quick......



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 10:03pm

So Perth: Derby Beers For Mark McGowan At The Start Of The 3rd Quarter.

https://soperth.com.au/derby-beers-for-mark-mcgowan-41716 - https://soperth.com.au/derby-beers-for-mark-mcgowan-41716



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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 12:52am

Wow that happened quickly. The trouble is that a proportion of Australians (the younger sector of society) are just not taking it seriously. When we were all at home under level 4 restrictions, on our news we were watching you guys fighting it too but instead of empty beaches, they were packed. The young might not get the symptoms in the main, but they pass it on. 

I really don't know what you can do other than get really draconian with enforcing a complete lockdown, and arrest anyone who doesn't comply. It's a bugger of a situation.



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 2:06am

SBS News: 'It's ludicrous': The stranded Australians who now have to pay thousands for hotel quarantine to come home.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/it-s-ludicrous-the-stranded-australians-who-now-have-to-pay-thousands-for-hotel-quarantine-to-come-home - https://www.sbs.com.au/news/it-s-ludicrous-the-stranded-australians-who-now-have-to-pay-thousands-for-hotel-quarantine-to-come-home



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 2:10am

I know the more we see over here the more we want our borders kept strict......




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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 3:11pm

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-warns-of-inherent-risk-on-public-transport-as-18-coronavirus-cases-detected-20200719-p55ddw.html - https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-warns-of-inherent-risk-on-public-transport-as-18-coronavirus-cases-detected-20200719-p55ddw.html



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.πŸ––

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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: July 24 2020 at 12:57am

Border closing is having an effect on population numbers.....

Originally posted by "BBC Live News" "BBC Live News" wrote:

Australia is heading towards its lowest population growth in a hundred years this year.

The rate will plunge from an average 2% growth to 0.6% due to border closures and immigration disruptions. For decades, migrants have driven Australia's population increase and related economic growth. 



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 24 2020 at 3:19am










C19 has cost us $200billion  in supporting business and jobs....

We a wealthy country, 

I pity some other countries that were poverty stricken before this all happened,

The down  turn  in migration will be welcomed by some,

Although we a very big country ,the habital areas are getting smaller and with  climate change,things can only get worse.....

I worry what the World will be like for my grandchildren...

Soylet Green......πŸ™






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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: July 24 2020 at 6:03am

Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

I'm in Oklahoma, one of the state's getting worse, also one of the state's that opened early. People here aren't wearing masks, saying it takes away their rights,  blah, blah, blah, it's ridiculous. So we just keep getting worse and worse. 

Yikes!  I lived for several years in the Tulsa area and know the Okie mentality well....I can just imagine.  

Here in AZ, we have an interesting mix of liberal Democratic Northern transplants and home-grown conservatives.  AZ is transforming into a purple, perhaps eventually blue (liberal Democrat) state, which is interesting. 

However, like OK, we have our hard-core "won't wear a mask, ever!" crowd.  I get very nervous when shopping in large stores like Super Wal-Mart, since there have been armed confrontations.  NEVER confront a person not wearing a mask, just avoid them. 

Penham, I'm very fond of OK, so it hurts me to see you having so many troubles.  My wife and I sequester ourselves and work entirely from home, so we have withdrawn from the local economy - no restaurant meals, limited shopping, no socializing etc.  Be safe out there! 



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 29 2020 at 10:13pm

Sydney Morning Herald: 'Mr McGowan, tear down this wall': Federal Libs mount case against WA's border restrictions.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/western-australia/mr-mcgowan-tear-down-this-wall-federal-libs-mount-case-against-wa-s-border-restrictions-20200729-p55gk6.html - https://www.smh.com.au/national/western-australia/mr-mcgowan-tear-down-this-wall-federal-libs-mount-case-against-wa-s-border-restrictions-20200729-p55gk6.html



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: July 30 2020 at 8:10pm

Yikes...doesn't sound good Carbon.....



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 30 2020 at 9:55pm

Not many people here liking the Federal government at the moment,

I called the office of govener general,said when the constitution was written did they foresee a pandemic.....

Did they make provision for it..... 

Of course the answer is No....

So therefore the constitution should be amended......

Our state premier had the full backing of the people......

To keep borders shut......

You should see the letters in local paper......




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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 01 2020 at 10:09pm

POWER TO THE PEOPLE......



Sense at last from our Prime Minister

ABC News: Commonwealth withdraws from Clive Palmer border case, Prime Minister's letter to WA Premier reveals.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-02/government-removes-support-for-clive-palmers-push-to-open-border/12515948 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-02/government-removes-support-for-clive-palmers-push-to-open-border/12515948



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Posted By: nzdad
Date Posted: August 01 2020 at 11:53pm

i have seen two articles online in new zealand regarding australlias plight in the last hour.

pictures show long lines,as hundreds of non-preppers dash to the supermarkets to stock-up.

i despair at the stupidity on display here.


after the first lockdown,everybody had the chance to get some supplies,lest 'another' lockdown occured later on.

this was an equal opportunity thing. everybody could have gotten a little something to put aside,.........but no.they were too proud i guess.

remember fellow preppers,these are the same people who laughed at us for years,and 'joked' to us that they would just take [from us,by force if they felt inclined ] what they needed if the brown stuff ever hit the fan.

im waiting for our media to be flooded with tales of woe and heartbreak,as the woefully unprepped face the consequences of reality.


go ahead,tell me im wrong.



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 02 2020 at 4:11pm

All I can say is there's alot of ignorant people out there......

And  there comes a time you have to look after your self first.......

Q.who are the rescuers in a catastrophy.....

A.

the survivors......

Who are the survivors ?

Preppers.....

The lucky......

Natural selection in action.....

Darwin/Wallace,Faraday,Newton,Einstine,Curie,

Many more Great Educated ladies and men 

Science,science,science

Where would we be without it......






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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: August 02 2020 at 6:43pm

Carbon I did laugh out loud this morning when I read that Scott Morrison was aiming to emulate NZ's strict lockdown because when we did it, Australian politicians were quick to accuse us of over reacting, committing economic suicide and being hysterical. Now the proof of the pudding's in the eating and they are following our lead, albeit 6 months too late. 

But seriously, I hope it works for your guys. It's amazing how quickly the numbers escalate. Now is a great time to do it because once spring and summer really get under way, they'll be no way of keeping you Aussies indoors, and you'll all be out and about socializing again. And just think about Christmas - lockdown over the festive season would be a complete nightmare. 



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 03 2020 at 4:42pm

NEWS.com.au: Coronavirus Australia: Melbourne now world’s strictest lockdown.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-melbourne-now-under-one-of-the-strictest-lockdowns-in-the-world/news-story/0d341224aed9b5f94d5f81327cd499de - https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-melbourne-now-under-one-of-the-strictest-lockdowns-in-the-world/news-story/0d341224aed9b5f94d5f81327cd499de



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: August 10 2020 at 2:10am

Australia records deadliest day but fewer new infections  (19 deaths, 332 cases).    Still extremely low figures compared to Europe and the Americas.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53718184" rel="noopener noreferrer - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53718184



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 10 2020 at 10:33pm

Daily Mail: Scott Morrison says coronavirus restrictions will drag on into 2021.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8613785/Scott-Morrison-says-coronavirus-restrictions-drag-2021.html - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8613785/Scott-Morrison-says-coronavirus-restrictions-drag-2021.html



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 17 2020 at 4:21pm

NEWS.com.au: AFL 2020: Wild details emerge of Elijah Taylor, girlfriend’s COVID breach.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2020-wild-details-emerge-of-elijah-taylor-girlfriends-covid-breach/news-story/3a21f38ecd6518e5bd38fa3a72c69916 - https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2020-wild-details-emerge-of-elijah-taylor-girlfriends-covid-breach/news-story/3a21f38ecd6518e5bd38fa3a72c69916



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 17 2020 at 5:09pm

Just can't trust some people.....

W..ker



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: August 19 2020 at 10:21pm

In Colorado, Douglas County specifically, things are getting back to normal.  Our movie theaters are opening,  Our grocery stores are back to normal, people at beaches and parks.  We still have to wear masks thank goodness.  I hope i am wrong and that this thing fizzles out but I gotta tell you that I am worried for the fall!  People are so hung up in thinking this is political they aren't even paying attention!  



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 2:00am





Anyone with half brain would be worried about the fall,

and winter is coming.......

Maybe rolling in the snow will cure C19.....

Only joking......πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰

Keep safe all 






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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 4:24am

NEWS.com.au: Perth hotel quarantine: Mark McGowan flags ankle bracelets for high-risk guests.

https://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/perth-hotel-quarantine-wa-premier-flags-ankle-bracelets-for-highrisk-travellers/news-story/13685dbc08048de06d11d0d82f56d6d6 - https://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/perth-hotel-quarantine-wa-premier-flags-ankle-bracelets-for-highrisk-travellers/news-story/13685dbc08048de06d11d0d82f56d6d6



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 3:25am

The Guardian: Victoria's new coronavirus cases fall to lowest rate in two months as 18 more die from Covid-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/29/victorias-new-coronavirus-cases-fall-to-lowest-rate-in-two-months-as-18-more-die-from-covid-19 - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/29/victorias-new-coronavirus-cases-fall-to-lowest-rate-in-two-months-as-18-more-die-from-covid-19



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 1:57pm

Great news!  Seems things are getting better most places or am I nieve?



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 3:11pm

 Let's hope so,

My family over in the east are going stir crazy but they know and see that things are improving.....

Underlockdown.......

And mask wearing......

Most !!!

Australians pull together in a crisis.......





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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 4:18pm

ABC News: Victorian coronavirus restrictions could be lifted with 'ring-fencing' in hotspot areas, WHO advisor says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-31/victoria-coronavirus-restrictions-could-be-lifted-ring-fencing/12610704 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-31/victoria-coronavirus-restrictions-could-be-lifted-ring-fencing/12610704



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 12:30pm

Well my fingers are crossed for you my friend. Also keep us updated on flu as well!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 3:31pm

No flu as yet, (no tourists)

nasty chesty cold doing the rounds...stay well all..πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 4:46pm

ABC News: Kerry O'Brien tells Q&A Australia's political system is letting down younger generation, fears we're going down same path as US.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-01/kerry-obrien-compares-australia-to-trumps-america-china-q+a/12615474 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-01/kerry-obrien-compares-australia-to-trumps-america-china-q+a/12615474



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 2:58pm

ABC News: With coronavirus border restrictions, Scott Morrison is at the whim of the states — and it's worse than we thought.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-06/scott-morrison-national-cabinet-states-going-in-different-ways/12630656 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-06/scott-morrison-national-cabinet-states-going-in-different-ways/12630656



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: September 08 2020 at 6:57pm

oh my carbon! haha.  Everything in the states is opening back up full throttle....hope it doesn't bite them in the arse!!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 2:55am

Our borders remain sealed,not many people here want to open them yet,and why would we.....

Mind you it's very easy to seal our borders.....





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Posted By: BeachMama
Date Posted: September 11 2020 at 2:40pm

I would really, really like to move to Australia right about now. 



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: September 11 2020 at 3:33pm

Originally posted by BeachMama BeachMama wrote:

I would really, really like to move to Australia right about now. 

l

you OK?

keeping safe?



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: September 21 2020 at 7:17am

Not covid related but some nice news out of Australia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578" rel="noopener noreferrer - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578


Also good news "Australia coronavirus cases 'set to be lowest in months'"   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54223977" rel="noopener noreferrer - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54223977

Lock downs do work if applied early enough: "Mr Andrews has defended the state's strict lockdown, pointing to rising cases in Europe. "



Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: September 21 2020 at 7:46am

The page of the first link you posted seems to be unavailable.

Andrews seems to have been right in what he did and it's proving out.  Just like experts said.  Imagine that!



Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: September 21 2020 at 11:08am

Link corrected in previous post.  Thanks for the notification of the problem.   

Correct link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578" rel="noopener noreferrer - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: September 21 2020 at 2:44pm

The Age: 'We're in the last quarter of a game': Experts urge Victoria to stay the course.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/we-re-in-the-last-quarter-of-a-game-experts-urge-victoria-to-stay-the-course-20200921-p55xqh.html - https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/we-re-in-the-last-quarter-of-a-game-experts-urge-victoria-to-stay-the-course-20200921-p55xqh.html



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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: September 21 2020 at 7:43pm

Here in NZ we went back to level 1 at midnight last night, all of us except Auckland who have to remain at level 2 for 2 weeks. Level 1 means life as normal.



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: September 27 2020 at 5:02am

The West Australian: Coronavirus crisis: Man ordered to wear ankle bracelet after WA border breach.

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-man-ordered-to-wear-ankle-bracelet-after-wa-border-breach-ng-b881678173z - https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-man-ordered-to-wear-ankle-bracelet-after-wa-border-breach-ng-b881678173z



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: November 01 2020 at 2:50am

G'Day.   They say that "No News is Good News".  Well we have a day with no corvonavirus news from Australia, and that is Good News.

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Australia has recorded its first day of no local cases of Covid-19 in almost five months.

Zero cases were reported in the 24 hours between 20:00 on Friday and 20:00 on Saturday - the first time this has happened since 9 June.

The state of Victoria - epicentre of Australia's second wave - recorded zero cases for the second day in a row after a 112-day lockdown.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54768038 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54768038



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 01 2020 at 2:58am

Yes it is great news,

Our state opening up tentivley  from November 12.....





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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: November 01 2020 at 6:50pm

fingers crossed for you carbon!!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 01 2020 at 7:54pm

I think most people will comply with the rules, no-one wants a lock down,

Our biggest problem is returning AUSSIES still 30k overseas, who want to come back,can only take a few hundreds back every few weeks, as they have to stay in quarantine for 2 weeks under guard,not many flights and it cost big $$$$$,

We shall see how it all pans out.....

Stay safe all  πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 02 2020 at 2:03am

ABC News: Coronavirus infections double in Sydney's quarantine hotels as cases explode overseas.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/nsw-coronavirus-cases-in-quarantine-hotels-double/12827284 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/nsw-coronavirus-cases-in-quarantine-hotels-double/12827284



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: November 02 2020 at 7:46am

Yikes!  Is that going to stop you guys from opening or what?



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 02 2020 at 1:23pm

We  here in Western Australia,are only opening up to the rest of Australia, excluding NSW,and Victoria,anyone  that comes here have  to have checks and  quarantine for 2 weeks,

International travel not allowed....only Australias wanting to come home 30k at last count,

Then it's 2 weeks under police guard in hotel at your expense($3,000approx)

So only if someone stuffs up like what happened in Melbourne, and let's covid out, but no one wants 6 /8 weeks lockdown......

(The only covid here at the moment is in returned Australians.....all in quarantine....)

Because that's the only thing that works......

As our state is opening up to the rest of Australia,(with restrictions)

We have been asked to wear masks for a while if on public transport,crowds etc.....

See what our people do? 

Will be interesting....

Take care everyone stay safe....πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰......



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 26 2020 at 3:30pm

ABC: Victoria hits 28 days with no new coronavirus cases or deaths.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/victoria-coronavirus-zero-cases-28-days-elimination/12925674 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/victoria-coronavirus-zero-cases-28-days-elimination/12925674



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 8:57am

Thats amazing Carbon!  I hope it lasts!  Wishing Australia and you the best!!!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 1:26am

Thank  roni,

They did the hard yards, 

Hope it stays free for all our sakes.....

Take care stay safe  πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: November 29 2020 at 12:21am

When I first saw this picture I thought "How terrible, what a way to spread covid-19",  but then I realised that this is the look of a country that has managed to control the virus,  Well done Australia


Temperatures in Sydney over the weekend have hit 40C




Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 29 2020 at 12:30am

Best not count the chucks before they hatch......

This is a nasty virus and there's some silly people out there........


The Guardian: South Australians urged to get Covid tests after man with virus goes 'out and about' in Adelaide.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/29/south-australians-urged-to-get-covid-tests-after-man-with-virus-goes-out-and-about-in-adelaide - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/29/south-australians-urged-to-get-covid-tests-after-man-with-virus-goes-out-and-about-in-adelaide

Take care all.  πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: November 29 2020 at 5:34am

I agree, Carbon.  But there's something to be said for gettin' while the gettin's good.  If you haven't had any new infections there's no reason why people can't have a break from the tedium of shutdowns and stay at home.  Especially if testing continues and any microclusters can be caught before the virus makes it's way into the general population.  



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 29 2020 at 12:54pm

I agree Witchy,

The only danger is Australians returning,and not doing the right thing......

The question I have for them is Why they would risk Australia getting a severe outbreak,??

we seem to be on top of it,

Time will tell....

Take care all especially you Yanks.....not looking good for you.......

Stay safe, be safe......πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰πŸ––



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Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: November 30 2020 at 6:19pm

That stupid, stupid man!  ugh!  Wishing you the best in Australia!!



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 12:57pm

NEWS.com.au: COVID quarantine: Huge problem with high-risk hotel program.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/covid-quarantine-huge-problem-with-highrisk-hotel-program/news-story/b60bdf6428d174932cadca6d736a687c - https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/covid-quarantine-huge-problem-with-highrisk-hotel-program/news-story/b60bdf6428d174932cadca6d736a687c



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 3:00pm

PerthNow: Coronavirus crisis: Why Australia won’t rush to roll out COVID-19 vaccine.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-why-australia-wont-rush-covid-19-vaccine-ng-b881738926z - https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-why-australia-wont-rush-covid-19-vaccine-ng-b881738926z



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 08 2020 at 12:41am

The Associated Press: The Latest: Australia to extend ban on leaving country.

https://apnews.com/ffa6578ee348994909e6cdf502a19831 - https://apnews.com/ffa6578ee348994909e6cdf502a19831



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