If covid is Fake,how we going to fix climatechange
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Topic: If covid is Fake,how we going to fix climatechange
Posted By: carbon20
Subject: If covid is Fake,how we going to fix climatechange
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 2:21am
The Independent: Growing ‘heat blob’ from Atlantic driving sea ice loss in Arctic, study says. https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/arctic-sea-ice-atlantic-ocean-b1760392.html - https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/arctic-sea-ice-atlantic-ocean-b1760392.html
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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 5:05am
What's not said is that further desalination and slowing of the Atlantic Conveyor slows all the ocean conveyors. If the Atlantic Conveyor slows further or, heaven forbid, stops, we're all going to be screwed. I'm torn. It's an interesting thing to watch, but it's like I'm watching a runaway freight train and I can see the crash in the not too distant future.
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 1:05pm
We on the same Same page there Witchy..... At the end of the last ice age, a morane made of ice somewhere near where you live broke, sending millions of tonnes of water into the Atlantic stopping the conveyor dead, Within a year the whole of northern hemisphere was back in an ice age.....for a long long time... But that's science..... I too am an watching.....only a matter of time......hope it's in my lifetime..... Be really interesting......to live through.....as is what we going through now..... All we need then is a big rock to send us the way of the dinosaurs...... Take care all......
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 1:14pm
http://extremeicesurvey.org/ - httpr://extremeicesurvey.org/
https://chasingice.com/ - https://chasingice.com/
Both worth watching.....
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 1:39pm
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/ancient-warming-threw-crucial-atlantic-current-chaos-it-could-happen-again - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/ancient-warming-threw-crucial-atlantic-current-chaos-it-could-happen-again
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 3:28pm
NEWS.com.au: All time records set to smash as 4500km-long heatwave hits. https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/all-time-records-set-to-smash-as-4500kmlong-heatwave-hits/news-story/514c47afff73a7d7e9a9828d107e0cab - https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/all-time-records-set-to-smash-as-4500kmlong-heatwave-hits/news-story/514c47afff73a7d7e9a9828d107e0cab
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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 6:27pm
carbon20 wrote:
We on the same Same page there Witchy..... At the end of the last ice age, a morane made of ice somewhere near where you live broke, sending millions of tonnes of water into the Atlantic stopping the conveyor dead, Within a year the whole of northern hemisphere was back in an ice age.....for a long long time... But that's science..... I too am an watching.....only a matter of time......hope it's in my lifetime..... Be really interesting......to live through.....as is what we going through now..... |
Science... silly you for following science... (kidding).
So watching and waiting. Makes us twisted little tickets, huh? Unlike you, although it would be interesting I'd rather not live through it.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 11:22pm
Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: November 25 2020 at 11:58am
WitchMisspelled wrote:
What's not said is that further desalination and slowing of the Atlantic Conveyor slows all the ocean conveyors. If the Atlantic Conveyor slows further or, heaven forbid, stops, we're all going to be screwed. I'm torn. It's an interesting thing to watch, but it's like I'm watching a runaway freight train and I can see the crash in the not too distant future. |
I agree, WM! That's exactly how I feel, and I've been studying climate since my undergrad days at Univ of IL (1973-77).
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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: November 25 2020 at 2:15pm
Makes sense, Chuck. To my knowledge scientists have been banging the gong on this since the early 70's. Nearly 50 years later and I think it's too late. The tipping point tipped somewhere in the late '90's early '00's.
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 25 2020 at 3:10pm
I remember reading in the late 70s about melting permafrost releasing more methane.....caused by our activities Nothing done then..... Reap what you sow...... Only a slate wiper will save the other inhabitants of the planet from the human populations destruction of their world..... A slate wiper is the vaccine we are the virus......, I said to someone recently.... What would happen if all the humans disappeared from the world....... Answer....... It would recover.......lol Sorry for being a realist....... Take care all 😷😉
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Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: November 26 2020 at 9:25am
History Channel, Life After People. Sobering. If anyone is interested and has some time, this is some good reading on the subject: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/01/magazine/climate-change-losing-earth.html - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/01/magazine/climate-change-losing-earth.html
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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: November 26 2020 at 10:10am
Thanks ViQueen. I've bookmarked it to read later. I don't want to spoil my appetite for Thanksgiving goodies!
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Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: November 26 2020 at 4:31pm
It's a long and very depressing read, Witchy. Somewhere in our lives, we all have this moment when we saw something barreling at us like a freight train, did nothing and suffered dearly. Then had an eternity to kick ourself in the @$$. Like that.
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Posted By: morpheuskrs
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 2:32am
It is sometimes refreshing to read about the 'slate wiper' idea, or is it ideal. Climate change, global warming, call it what you want. The planet will continue to do what it does, with or without us. Are we a threat to the planet?....NO! Is the planet a threat to us?......YES. Definitely! As the ice at both polar regions, continues to melt, and the seas rise in both height and temperature, the possibilities are quite simply, Terrifying. The methane on the sea beds will rise to the surface, and basic breathing will become a trifle difficult. There are billions, if not trillions of cubic metres of the stuff down there. When you think of coal mines. Miners used to pass out with one breath of the stuff, and if there wasn't anyone to pull you out, you died there where you fell. Up until recently, say the last 250 years, the human race was an itch the planet could not scratch. It would appear, that more recently, we have become an itch it the planet can scratch. If we are not careful, it will scratch us so much, we will cease to exist. And as a species.............We will deserve extinction. Perhaps we need to, collectively, abandon our way of life, and revert back to a more simple system. Forget about globalization, trade locally, and live within our own communities. Forget holidays, fashion, conquest, even influence. That may be a little extreme, as it takes away one of our more common attributes. That is, ambition. But it would also show one of our other attributes. That is ADAPTABILITY. Sorry for shouting.
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 3:47am
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/ - https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
250 years ago the population of the World was getting on for just over half a billion , It took a 100 years from 1850 to 1950 to raise the population 1billion, we doing that Every 14 years now.... Talk about expodential growth.....
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 2:12pm
BBC News - Climate change: The woman watching the ice melt from under her feet https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55108073 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55108073
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 9:27pm
DW (English): UN chief Antonio Guterres: 'There's no vaccine for the planet'. https://dw.com/p/3m796?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews - https://dw.com/p/3m796?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 08 2020 at 8:32pm
9News: The Arctic is getting hotter, greener and less icy much faster than expected: report. https://www.9news.com.au/world/the-arctic-is-getting-hotter-greener-and-less-icy-much-faster-than-expected-report/dd560554-3a75-47e9-9684-86eebdd6d95e - https://www.9news.com.au/world/the-arctic-is-getting-hotter-greener-and-less-icy-much-faster-than-expected-report/dd560554-3a75-47e9-9684-86eebdd6d95e
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 09 2020 at 1:00am
The Associated Press: Vast wildfires in Siberia linked to warming Arctic. https://apnews.com/95e84c9be889a4a933c85a91a78eca64 - https://apnews.com/95e84c9be889a4a933c85a91a78eca64
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 2:01pm
ABC News: UN tells world to declare a state of climate emergency. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-13/un-tells-world-leaders-to-declare-states-of-climate-emergency/12978646 - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-13/un-tells-world-leaders-to-declare-states-of-climate-emergency/12978646
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