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And so it begins please pray for America

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Topic: And so it begins please pray for America
Posted By: Usk
Subject: And so it begins please pray for America
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 10:37am

We are being led by a buffoon!  He is told what to say in his ear piece  https://www.bitchute.com/video/AR3SzrFOG7GL/ - https://www.bitchute.com/video/AR3SzrFOG7GL/




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Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 10:50am

Definitely, please pray for America.  That we recover quickly from the @#$% that led us the previous 4 years!



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 2:13pm

A momentary slip in manners,  Poor Biden.

But there are so many worse things he could have done.  How about inciting ex forceswomen to storm the White House and get killed in the process?   One is a slight error in protocol, the other Crimminal, immoral and callous.  The list is so long of the Horrors of the Trump presidency; from children in cages to 400 thousand dead Americans with Covid.

Biden will make mistakes.  He is not God.  This is not the first and it will not be the last.  But he tries to tell the truth, learn from his mistakes and cares about the lives his behaviour impacts.  In other words, he is sane and ordinary.  Trump was extrordinary, but not in a good way.  Oh, and technically insane too.



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 5:14pm

Lets talk insane. Pelosi asked for machine guns to be posted around the capital!!!

Biden is  clearly a dementia sufferer running the country.
the cages were put up and used first under IObama

There is video of Biden in 2015 touring the cages in Texas border town that he endorsed!!!
did he make an executive order taking them down and making better wuarters for the hoard on its way to texasw with Brazlian Covid?

No!!!

Seriously people you act like Biden is the high and mighty and his poop smells like roses.  Mark my words I give it 6 months before you turn on him the way you hate Trump



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 6:40pm

This thread should be in politics.....

And are all news anchors dumb, they all get promps in their ear,

And wouldn't you rather that than a fool who doesn't know what to say so makes up sudo science,and tell people to inject Bleach.......

And I disliked Chump long before he ran for president,he's always been a idiot,liar,cheat.....

To take care all πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.πŸ––

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: AI
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 7:54pm

Originally posted by Usk Usk wrote:

We are being led by a buffoon!  He is told what to say in his ear piece  https://www.bitchute.com/video/AR3SzrFOG7GL/ - https://www.bitchute.com/video/AR3SzrFOG7GL/

BIDUM the puppet. You haven't seen anything yet this is going to be hilarious.



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β€œFacts don't care about your feelings.”
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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: January 21 2021 at 9:33pm

Heavens I love Nancy Pelosi. Isn't she great? I really like gutsy women of her generation. She reminds me of a tough old scrawny laying hen - they've got no meat on them but they can be fierce when they need to. I'd like to have lunch with Nancy. She's no nonsense and so funny.



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 1:08am

SBS News: QAnon followers realise their baseless conspiracy was 'all a lie' as President Joe Biden takes office.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/qanon-followers-realise-their-baseless-conspiracy-was-all-a-lie-as-president-joe-biden-takes-office - https://www.sbs.com.au/news/qanon-followers-realise-their-baseless-conspiracy-was-all-a-lie-as-president-joe-biden-takes-office

Sucked in by a lying SOB....

you sad fools ,

Think you all need to get back on your Meds ,or get back in your straight jacket.....

Take care all πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰




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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.πŸ––

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 1:56am

'Liberating feeling': Dr. Fauci describes working for Biden vs. Trump


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/21/fauci-biden-administration-coronavirus-honesty-whpb-bts-lead-vpx.cnn - https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/21/fauci-biden-administration-coronavirus-honesty-whpb-bts-lead-vpx.cnn


Rather have a Good guy that's stutters than 

a Twat that just lies ,lies,lies ,lies makes s..t up ,lies lies ,loses...... because he is incompetent.......and lies,lies 400,000 dead on his watch.....what did he do ...

.. NOTHING.......but lie.......

Take care all πŸ˜·πŸ˜‰



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.πŸ––

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 2:00am

And the BBC's take on it   https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-55746304 - https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-55746304





Posted By: Tabitha111
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 7:45am

So Qs are upset that nothing they were told came to pass, So now the story is that there was a face swap, and that  Trump was actually sworn in for his 2nd term while wearing the Biden's face! I honestly thought it was a joke...until three others confirmed the conspiracy. They’re just making shit up as they go...good grief.πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ



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'A man who does not think and plan long ahead will find trouble right at his door.'
--Confucius



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 8:43am

Originally posted by Usk Usk wrote:

Lets talk insane. Pelosi asked for machine guns to be posted around the capital!!!

I could not agree more, UTTERLY INSANE; for a county which values democracy as highly as America does, to be reduced to that by the self-serving actions of its president is truly insane.  The stain of this will last for years.



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 12:50pm


That allegation was made by Ken Cuccinelli, not exactly known as a paragon:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Cuccinelli - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Cuccinelli

And I agree with Carbon -- the post should probably go to politics.



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 1:22pm

Done.



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 1:42pm

That Wikipedia article about Cuccinelli paints an almost a textbook description of a fascist or extreemist.  Why, oh why does the Republican party tolerate these ******s?   Not all of the reds are that bigoted.  Oh, and I see he is a 'birther' too.  I wonder if he thinks the world is flat.


As to the video:  The word marines is clearly audible, nothing else is.   It is a very recent custom for presidents to salute the troops, by the way.  Regan started it; before him it was not done.  Obama was actually slated FOR DOING IT!  I would have accused that comparison of bias, had I not found 'Mr. Heel-spurs's salutes so offensive myself.  (Yes I can be a hypocrite too - I'm human.)


IMHO he should have saluted, but not doing so is hardly a warcrime, genocide or even mildly disrespectful - just a bit forgetful.



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 2:00pm

These Photos Of Trump Saluting Compared To Past Presidents Show How Wrongly They All Do It

By Joseph Milord

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Once upon a time, presidential salutes weren't even a thing. That all changed in the 1980s, with President Ronald Reagan, and ever since then, it seems like each president has had an awkward fail while delivering one. If you need proof, look no further than these photos of President Donald Trump saluting compared to past presidents.

Along the way, you'll notice something: Technically, all of the presidents salute military personnel incorrectly. 

Like every president since Reagan, Trump routinely salutes military members, whether it's while stepping on or off Marine One — the presidential helicopter — or while acknowledging parading officers, as the president did during his inauguration. 

But there's a reason why the words "since Reagan" are worth noting. Many historical accounts about when it became common for presidents to salute military members — and why — trace the practice back to President Reagan. Those accounts also all pretty much agree on one thing: President Reagan pretty much made the whole thing up. 

For that reason alone, the salutes are (very low-key) a taboo thing to do. Like, seriously. 

In December 2008, Reuters columnist David Alexander described the subject of presidential salutes as a "thorny debate." A year later, Smithsonian magazine editor Carey Winfrey — a former Marine Corps lieutenant — wrote in The New York Times about how presidential salutes had "conflicted" him for a while.

For starters, Winfrey laid out how Marine Corps instructors told him, "you never salute without a cover," or a hat. So, by that logic, your everyday regular salute that you see from President Trump is, well, irregular.

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The salute of presidents has also been criticized as a gesture that "represents an exaggeration of the president's military role." But Trump specifically has been blamed of a different exaggeration when it comes to salutes. 

If there was one common critique from those who were skeptical of the president's recent trip to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, it was a worry that the summit would legitimize Kim, and images from the meeting would serve as an effective propaganda tool. Sure enough, North Korean state media did indeed broadcast images of Trump and Kim, which is no surprise, really. What is a surprise is the fact that one of those images is of Trump saluting a North Korean general. 

And while North Korean media has a reputation for doctoring footage, this particular video seems authentic and, at the very least, not the best look for the president.

If there's one person who was aware that the salutes are an irregularity, it's the man who started the trend himself: President Reagan. During a speech before military members in Iceland in 1986, Reagan — himself a former member of the Army Reserves — explained why he bent the rules on saluting. He said,

I know all the rules about not saluting in civilian clothes and so forth, and when you should or shouldn't. But then when I got this job and I would be approaching Air Force One or Marine One and those marines would come to a salute and I — knowing that I am in civilian clothes — I would nod and say hello and think they could drop their hand, and they wouldn't. They just stood there.
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Reagan then said he arrived at a solution: "Uh, can't I just do this if I want?"

So, I said to the Commandant — I said, 'Look, I know all the rules about saluting in civilian clothes and all, but if I am the Commander in Chief, there ought to be a regulation that would permit me to return a salute.' And I heard some words of wisdom. He said, 'I think if you did, no one would say anything.' So, if you see me on television and I'm saluting, you know that I've got authority for it now and I do it happily.

The rest was history from there. The presidential salute went from seemingly nonexistent to something president have to do, even though there's a case to be made that they shouldn't. 

Reagan even felt it was so important that Time magazine has an account of the former president teaching President Bill Clinton how to salute, before the latter entered office in 1993.

Stephen Jaffe/AFP/Getty Images

And yet can bet that when Reagan's successor — his vice president George H.W. Bush — entered office, the elder Bush kept up the new tradition of returning military salutes. Even after exiting the White House, former presidents return salutes. 

The photo below, for example, shows Bush Sr. saluting while passing by a soldier on the day President Obama was inaugurated.

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Now take all that, and consider one of the most trivial "controversies" of the President Barack Obama's tenure, his "latte salute." 

In 2014, Obama's White House posted a video on Instagram of the president saluting two military members after hopping of Marine One, with a cup of coffee in his hand. 

It was criticized as "disrespectful" by the likes of Fox News' Karl Rove, a former adviser to President George W. Bush. 

“Look, he knows there are going to be two Marines at the bottom of Marine One when he gets off," Rove told Sean Hannity at the time, "and the idea that I’m going to just jaunt out there with my chai tea, and give them the old … you know it’s not a latte salute, it’s a chai salute, because he drinks chai tea, but I mean please, how disrespectful was that?”

Meanwhile, others noted the obvious: The presidential salute is technically a made up thing in the first place. 

So, whether it's Trump saluting without a hat, Obama saluting with a coffee cup, or Bush clumsily saluting with his dog in hand, just remember one thing. All of them probably wouldn't be saluting anyway, if it wasn't for Ronald Reagan, a true trendsetter. 

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-photos-of-trump-saluting-compared-to-past-presidents-show-how-wrongly-they-all-do-it-9394081 - https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-photos-of-trump-saluting-compared-to-past-presidents-show-how-wrongly-they-all-do-it-9394081



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 6:00pm

Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

SBS News: QAnon followers realise their baseless conspiracy was 'all a lie' as President Joe Biden takes office.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/qanon-followers-realise-their-baseless-conspiracy-was-all-a-lie-as-president-joe-biden-takes-office - https://www.sbs.com.au/news/qanon-followers-realise-their-baseless-conspiracy-was-all-a-lie-as-president-joe-biden-takes-office

Sucked in by a lying SOB....


And what is concerning is those that are not fading away, are joining the homegrown terrorist organizations of Proud Boys and Boogaloo Boys.  Note boys... the patriarchy continues...




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