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Topic: Kissinger warning !
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: Kissinger warning !
Date Posted: August 15 2022 at 10:05pm

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/modern-us-warmongering-scaring-henry-kissinger[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/modern-us-warmongering-scaring-henry-kissinger - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/modern-us-warmongering-scaring-henry-kissinger ;

In a new https://archive.ph/l9m9O" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - interview with The Wall Street Journal , immortal Hague fugitive Henry Kissinger says the US is acting in a crazy and irrational way that has brought it to the edge of war with Russia and China:

Mr. Kissinger sees today’s world as verging on a dangerous disequilibrium. “We are at the edge of war with Russia and China on issues which we partly created, without any concept of how this is going to end or what it’s supposed to lead to,” he says. Could the U.S. manage the two adversaries by triangulating between them, as during the Nixon years? He offers no simple prescription. “You can’t just now say we’re going to split them off and turn them against each other. All you can do is not to accelerate the tensions and to create options, and for that you have to have some purpose.”

On the question of Taiwan, Mr. Kissinger worries that the U.S. and China are maneuvering toward a crisis, and he counsels steadiness on Washington’s part. “The policy that was carried out by both parties has produced and allowed the progress of Taiwan into an autonomous democratic entity and has preserved peace between China and the U.S. for 50 years,” he says. “One should be very careful, therefore, in measures that seem to change the basic structure.”

Mr. Kissinger courted controversy earlier this year by suggesting that incautious policies on the part of the U.S. and NATO may have touched off the crisis in Ukraine. He sees no choice but to take Vladimir Putin’s stated security concerns seriously and believes that it was a mistake for NATO to signal to Ukraine that it might eventually join the alliance: “I thought that Poland — all the traditional Western countries that have been part of Western history — were logical members of NATO,” he says. But Ukraine, in his view, is a collection of territories once appended to Russia, which Russians see as their own, even though “some Ukrainians” do not. Stability would be better served by its acting as a buffer between Russia and the West: “I was in favor of the full independence of Ukraine, but I thought its best role was something like Finland.”

DJ the article goes on;

I don’t know about you, but to me this warning is much, much more ominous coming from a bloodsoaked swamp monster than it would be from some anti-imperialist peace activist who was speaking from outside the belly of the imperial machine. This man is a  https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/1/31/galant-welcoming-war-crimes/" style='box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Liberation Sans", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'>literal war criminal  who, as a leading empire manager,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH82rDxQ3dA" style='box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Liberation Sans", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'>helped to unleash unfathomable horrors  all  https://jacobin.com/2020/11/operation-condor-cia-latin-america-repression-torture" style='box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Liberation Sans", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'>around the world  the consequences of which are still being felt today.

And as far as you can tell from his own comments, he remains completely unreformed.

“Looking back over his long and often controversial career, however, he is not given to self-criticism,” The Wall Street Journal’s Laura Secor writes.

“I do not torture myself with things we might have done differently,” Kissinger tells her.

So Kissinger remains an unapologetic warmongering psychopath. But if he hasn’t changed as a person, what has? Why is he now cautioning against US aggression and warning that the empire has taken things too far?

Well, if Kissinger hasn’t changed, we can only surmise that it is the US empire itself that has changed. Its behavior is now so insane and illogical that it is making a 99 year-old Henry Kissinger nervous.

Which, if you really think about it, is one of the scariest things you could possibly imagine.

DJ Article ends with; 

Henry Kissinger is warning about the dangers of US warmongering not because he has gotten saner, but because the US war machine has gotten crazier. That we are now hurtling toward confrontations that don’t appear rational to someone who has spent the majority of his life watching the mechanics of empire from inside its inner chambers should concern us all. When you are talking about brinkmanship between major world powers, especially nuclear brinkmanship, the last thing you need is for one of the parties involved to be acting erratically and nonsensically.

We need de-escalation and detente, and we need it yesterday. If you’re too hawkish for Henry Kissinger, you’re too motherfucking hawkish.

My view;

DJ...Some people -in the US, UK, very likely other places- want war...

Change of global dominance in the past always was in combination with (lots of) wars...The UK, NL, France, Portugal did loose their empires between 1940 and 1975...The US, Soviet Union became more dominant during that time.

China, India -Asia- are now on ther way to global dominance. OPEC was once a US instrument (sort of) by using the US-petro-$...OPEC+ is dominated by Russia with China as its major client. 

People sometimes seek conflict not because they feel strong but weak, out of fear...The US, EU, NATO knows it is "getting weaker" compared to Asia..So "it is now or never"...

End of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: August 15 2022 at 11:01pm

DJ

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-kim-leaders-worlds-most-sanctioned-countries-pledge-deeper-ties-against-hostile[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-kim-leaders-worlds-most-sanctioned-countries-pledge-deeper-ties-against-hostile - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-kim-leaders-worlds-most-sanctioned-countries-pledge-deeper-ties-against-hostile US.

The state medias of Russia and North Korea are reporting that leaders Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un have communicated mutual messages pledging deeper ties between the two nations, at a moment both find themselves heavily sanctioned by the United States and its allies.

The pledge came in the form of an exchange of official diplomatic notes in which Putin wished Kim "good health and success" - and spelled out a desire for closer cooperation, coming at a key moment where Moscow has been on the offensive in trying to strengthen strategic alliances with non-Western countries, notably China and India also among them, as the Ukraine invasion has blown past six months.

Point, often missed by the US, Russia has had good relations with many Asian, African, Latin American countries for decades. The Soviet Union supported de-colonization (partly out of self-interest). There have been talks on Korean reunification (I believe since a top meeting in Vladivostok 2016 ???) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations . Russia and China want to link limiting NK nuclear plans with offering economic openings for SK big companies...

China and Korea are "united in hatred" against Japan...Taiwan, Korea were Japanese colonies till 1945...Japan did treath Chinese, Koreans, Russians as "subhumans"...In the "Korean War" (1950-53) NK lost 10% of its population in US bombings...China did see 400,000 soldiers killed in that war...

DJ-Yes there are "problems" in Europe; Ukraine, Serbia, Türkiye...but those problems will be "small" compared to the Asian problems..

India-China relations often are close to war-like...however that does NOT mean India wants good -long term- relations with the US. The US goal is to stay global #1...India would like to become the major global player...For that matter US anti-China policy is telling India what India has to expect when they want to replace the US/west dominance...

So India may try to "use" the US to "limit China" for its own goals...at the same time keeping (very) friendly relations with Russia...a partner even before India independence...China did replace the US in Pakistan. India and Russia are main investors in Iran...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/06/685164/Iran-China-Russia-to-flex-muscles-in-America[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/06/685164/Iran-China-Russia-to-flex-muscles-in-America - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/06/685164/Iran-China-Russia-to-flex-muscles-in-America ;

Iran, China, and Russia are set to take part in joint military maneuvers hosted by Venezuela next month as the Latin American country pushes for closer ties with Eastern allies amid tensions with the West.

According to the Center for a Secure Free Society, the military drills will be part of the 2022 edition of the International Army Games organized by Russia and hosted by several countries on an annual basis since 2015.

“In mid-August, Venezuela will host the “Sniper Frontier” competition with the participation of Russia, Iran, and China’s military, as well as at least 10 other nations,” said the report.

DJ China did invest a lot in Latin America, Africa energy and food sectors...The western response of "a global NATO" may only be welcomed by western weapon producers...

Basic point is; the "uni-polar world" ; western dominance de facto is already over...US, UK, NATO try to regain some control...

In further escalation India is on the side of Russia, Iran...even if that means it also has to be on the side of China...If "the west" would "limit Russia, China" India knows they are next...

Another question has to be; how far will the west go ? 

The Ukraine war could and should have been avoided. New talks on peace and security in Europe and worldwide were not only in the interests of Russia but also in the interests of Europe and the US, Canada etc. 

"The West" ignored repeated requests by Russia for that kind of talks...instead it went for further NATO expansionism...Even zelensky talking about nuclear weapons for Ukraine...If that was NOT provocative what is ????

We had a "One China policy" for decades...the US did change that policy in many steps...pelosi pointless visit to Taiwan did send Bejing the US message; no point in further talking...

The US did go for a "new Iran-deal" after trump did end the old one...

The west did send for billions worth weapons into Ukraine...supported neo-nazi thugs, jihadi-idiots...

From a RIC Russia-Iran-China point of view "the west" has crossed every red line...further western escalation only is a matter of time...the western goal is the uni-polar world. 

In that western dominated world there is NO room for Russia, India, China, other countries going for their own interests...What the west wants is a new western run colonized world...

"Never ever again" must be the view of non-western countries...(should be the view of most western political parties...what happened to them ? Are they blind ???)

Outcome;

DJ, We are already in a major economic war. Based on very wrong intel the west did start a sanctions-war on Russia that backfired...The wrong western idea was sanctions will-if not end Putin-at least stop Russia in Ukraine...Sanctions were believed to be effective and needed for only a few months...

That idea was very, very wrong...again !

The US/UK-NATO may be able to dominate a lot of sea routes...point of course is they do NOT control Asian routes via land/Caspian Sea...

Most countries did NOT follow western sanctions on Russia; Türkiye even increased trade with Russia (Sochi-deal, Russia-Turkish trade in rubles/lira to move towards Russia-China trade a few years ago...100 billion US$ per year...!)

The west did outsource a lot of work to low-income countries...

So now the west is dependent for most of its trade on countries they want to re-colonize...Those countries now have better alternatives..China, India, EurAsia all can be trading partners-currencies can be mixed...so no longer US$ or € Euro's needed...

The US did already send 1/3 of it himats-missiles to Ukraine...it may have carrier-dominance...but in an all out war those carriers can be history within 30 minutes...

Maybe the point is the west also is close to running out of military means to "claim dominance" hypersonic weapons may even limit western nuclear arsenal...

Somehow "western leaders" however seem unable to get that point...still talk as if "they rule the world"...

So I think we could face "very major crises" very soon...US Navy moving into the Taiwan Strait-in between China and Taiwan I think may see Russian-China ships/planes blocking it...

Russia did mobilize its war-industry a few months ago...Via referendum parts of Ukraine now under pro-Russian control will join Russia...with the Russian Army moving in full scale...

In Syria Russia, Iran (and Türkiye) limit US-Israel activities...at the end kick out the US from both Syria and Iraq...(I wonder why they did not do that already...both the Syrian and Iraq government want US forces out...The US simply is ignoring it...). 

We may get very close to nuclear war...more close then EVER before ! I hope we will not see such escalation...Civil/social unrest in the west over inflation, energy/healthcrises, is brewing...we can not avoid that...

"We live in interesting times" I hope we survive those times...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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