DJ, see if this still functions... I get error notices after posting at "what will kill us"...this forum is "old"...maybe its technique may have some problems ? So -where are we today ? Both "wars" and "pandemics" become long term stories...both not likely to be over soon...both also "changing/mutating"....There are some similarities in both; -exhausting "the enemy/the immunesystem" both result in severe economic damage... -New means, interventions, anti-virals or NATO weapons for now do not solve the problem... -If we can not control the problem we may face a very major crisis (nuclear war, global health crisis worse then we ever did see...) -Of course both wars and pandemics cost a lot of money...we are getting poorer every day... -Both pandemics and wars have climate collapse as a background...
So climate; [url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-short-lifespan-of-technological-civilizations-and-the-future-of-homo-sapiens.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-short-lifespan-of-technological-civilizations-and-the-future-of-homo-sapiens.html - http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-short-lifespan-of-technological-civilizations-and-the-future-of-homo-sapiens.html ; In his book ‘ https://www.booktopia.com.au/collapse-jared-diamond/book/9780143117001.html?source=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5YP2kKT2-wIVuUFIAB3u4ArhEAQYAiABEgJ9IPD_BwE" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - Collapse ’ (2011) Jared Diamond portrays the fate of societies which Choose to Fail or Succeed. On a larger scale the https://www.universetoday.com/149513/beyond-fermis-paradox-xvii-what-is-the-seti-paradox-hypothesis/" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - Fermi’s paradox suggests that advanced technological civilizations may constitute ephemeral entities in the galaxy, destined to collapse over short periods. Such an interpretation of Fermi’s paradox, corroborated by recent terrestrial history, implies that the apparent absence of https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/26/alien-false-alarm-extraterrestrial-radio-signals-turn-out-to-be-human" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - radio signals from Milky Way planets and beyond may be attributed to an inherently self-destructive nature of civilizations which reached the ability to propagate radio waves, consistent with https://www.amnh.org/learn-teach/curriculum-collections/cosmic-horizons-book/carl-sagan-quest-for-life" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - Carl Sagan’s views . It can be expected therefore that the number of advanced technological societies in the universe will be https://www.amnh.org/learn-teach/curriculum-collections/cosmic-horizons-book/carl-sagan-quest-for-life" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - proportional to their average lifetime , perhaps lasting no more than a few centuries. Inexplicably, the behavior of Homo “sapiens” reveals the reality of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 34, 17); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - Fermi’s paradox , unless humans can wake up in time.
DJ (wiki); The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Extraterrestrial life - extraterrestrial life and the apparently high https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_priori_and_a_posteriori" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="A priori and a posteriori - a priori likelihood of its existence, and by extension of obtaining such evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-INS-20190921-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-Krauthammer2011-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [2] As a 2015 article put it, "If life is so easy, someone from somewhere must have come calling by now." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-NYT-20150803-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian-American" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Italian-American - Italian-American https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicist" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Physicist - physicist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Enrico Fermi - Enrico Fermi 's name is associated with the paradox because of a casual conversation in the summer of 1950 with fellow physicists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Edward Teller - Edward Teller , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_York" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Herbert York - Herbert York , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Konopinski" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Emil Konopinski - Emil Konopinski . While walking to lunch, the men discussed recent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="UFO - UFO reports and the possibility of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_travel" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Faster-than-light travel - faster-than-light travel . The conversation moved on to other topics, until during lunch Fermi blurted out, "But where is everybody?" (although https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#Original_conversations" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - the exact quote is uncertain ). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-NYT-20150803-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-Eric-Jones-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4] There have been many attempts to resolve the Fermi paradox, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-:0-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [6] such as suggesting that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Rare Earth hypothesis - intelligent extraterrestrial beings are extremely rare , that the lifetime of such civilizations is short, or that they exist but (for various reasons) humans see no evidence. So "are we programmed" for selfdestruction ? Is there a "peak-civilization" and did we cross that point ?
------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
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