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Bird Flu in Wild Birds in North America in 2005

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May 11, 2006

Recent reports of failures to detect H5N1 bird flu in Britain and Africa have raised serious concerns about collection and testing methodologies. In each report, about 7500 birds were tested and from the 15,000 birds, a single H5N1 positive was detected in Scotland. The DEFRA screening in Britain listed the date and number of birds tested. Only two birds were positive for low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI) and attempts to isolate virus failed from those two birds failed. These data raised concerns about storage methodologies, which allow the swabs to dry out, reducing the likelihood of detection or isolation of HPAI or LPAI. The report from Africa does not mention LPAI detection, creating significant credibility issues.

Failure to detect or isolate LPAI is of concern because avian influenza (bird flu) is common in wild birds. LPAI H5 was readily detected throughout southern Canada when August, 2005 collections from young mallards were tested.

Listed below are a number of LPAI isolates from North America collected between August and December 2005 that are being submitted by Ohio State for whole genome sequencing at The Institute for Genome Research as part of the NIAID flu blueprint project.. Although it remains unclear why H5 was not identified in the United States, because many of the H5 positive birds in Canada would have been expected to migrate into the United States, the listing below does highlight the fact that LPAI in wild birds in 2005 is common.

A listing of LPAI detected in the 7500 wild birds in Africa would be useful.


A/pintail/Alaska/20/2005(H12N5)

A/pintail/Alaska/49/2005(H3N8)

A/pintail/Alaska/53/2005(H3N6)

A/pintail/Alaska/99/2005(H4N6)

A/pintail/Alaska/102/2005(H12N5)

A/pintail/Alaska/211/2005(H3N8)

A/pintail/Alaska/246/2005(H8N4)

A/mallard/Alaska/256/2005(H3N8)

A/pintail/Alaska/279/2005(H3N8)

A/pintail/Alaska/310/2005(H4N6)

A/mallard/Alaska/312/2005(H12N5)

A/pintail/Alaska/314/2005(H8N4)

A/pintail/Alaska/315/2005(H3N8)

A/mallard/Alaska/708/2005(H8N4)

A/mallard/Alaska/715/2005(H3N8)

A/pintail/Alaska/779/2005(H3N8)

A/longtail duck/Maryland/295/2005(N8)

A/common scoter/Maryland/297/2005(H3N8)

A/white winged scoter/Maryland/301/2005(H11N9)

A/environment/Ohio/1007/2005(H9N2)

A/mallard/Delaware/418/2005(H7N3)

A/longtail duck/Maryland/291/2005(H3N8)

A/snow goose/Maryland/353/2005(H6N1)

A/snow goose/Maryland/364/2005(H6N1)

A/snow goose/Maryland/410/2005(H6N1)





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Widespread H5N1 Bird Flu Migration in Western Europe

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May 11, 2006

Letschin / Maerkisch-Oderland / BB* / White Stork / 3 May 2006
Harburg / Danube-Ries / Bavaria / Swan / 2 May 2006
Molfsee / Rendsburg-Eckernfoerde / SH** / Crested Grebe / 2 May 2006
Denklingen / Landsberg on the Lech / Bavaria / Merganser / 28 Apr 2006
Parkstetten / Straubing (town) / Bavaria / Mute Swan / 28 Apr 2006
Kirchroth-Nierachdorf / Straubing (town) / Bavaria / Mute Swan / 26 Apr 2006
Kirchroth-Muenster / Town of Straubing / Bavaria / Mute Swan / 26 Apr 2006
Letschin / Maerkisch-Oderland / BB / White Stork / 26 Apr 2006
Bautzen (Neumalsitz) / Bautzen / Saxony / Wild Duck / 26 Apr 2006


The above list of wild birds in Germany recently testing positive for H5N1 bird flu provides additional positive data that H5N1 is widespread throughout Europe.

The list of H5N1 positive birds in Denmark, between March 14 and May 2

26 Tufted ducks (_Aythya fuligula_)
6 Common buzzards (_Buteo buteo_)
4 Mute swans (_Cygnus olor_)
3 Whooper swans (_Cygnus cygnus_)
1 Peregrine falcon (_Falco peregrinus_)
1 Rough-legged buzzard (_Buteo lagopus_)
1 Greylag goose (_Anser anser_)
1 Great crested goose (_Podiceps cristatus_)

provides more evidence of H5N1 migrating through Europe, and is in marked contrast to the negative data announced by the Wetlands International, who collected 7500 samples in Africa and failed to find one H5N1 positive bird. There was no mention of the detection of 100’s or 1000’s of low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI), which would have been expected from testing 7500 wild bird samples.

The results in Africa were similar to the DEFRA results in Britain where a similar number of birds were tested and a single H5N1 positive was found. Genetic information for two LPAI was found, but no virus was isolated. The failure to detect or isolate LPAI in 7500 collections over multiple months indicates the collection and/or testing of the samples was fatally flawed, generating many more false negatives than true positives.

Avian influenza is common in wild birds. Studies in Canada found H5 in 24% of healthy young mallards collected in British Columbia in August, 2005. Low path H5 (H5N1, H5N2, H5N3, H5N9) was also found in other Candian provinces tested. There are 16 H serotypes and 9 N serotypes, creating 144 possible serotypes. All known serotypes have been isolated from wild birds, which generally have an LPAI positive rate of 1-10%. 2005 LPAI from wild birds in Alaska have also been collected. Negative data on H5N1 from thousands of wild bird samples are meaningless without the detection of 100’s or 1000’s of LPAI to validate the collection / screening process.

The positive data above from Germany and Denmark, as well as additional countries in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, leaves little doubt that wild birds in all areas were H5N1 positive in the winter, and wild birds are transporting and transmitting H5N1 in the spring. Recent outbreaks of H5N1 in three regions in Russia and two counties in Qinghai Province in China provide additional positive data for H5N1 migration through several continents.

The negative data cited by wildlife conservation groups assisting FAO remains highly suspect, and these groups have been citing their negative data on H5N1 since they conducted tests in Mongolia last August, where H5N1 was also confirmed. Thus, in 12 months of generating thousands of negative data points, they have yet to publish the 100’s or 1000;s of LPAI that would have been detected if appropriate collection and testing methods were used. The publication of the negative data, without appropriate controls, by the New York Times / International Herald Tribune and National Geographic remains highly misleading to an uneducated and misinformed readership.




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H5N1 Bird Flu in Poultry in Novosibirsk Russia

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May 10, 2006

Bird flu has been registered in the Kochkovo district, the Novosibirsk region, Siberia, the head of the Russian agriculture watchdog, Sergei Dankvert, told.

"H5N1 virus has been found in non-vaccinated poultry in private households of the Reshety village," he said.

So far the flu has killed 64 birds. The village has 35,000 poultry, Dankvert said.

The detection of H5N1 in domestic poultry in Novosibirsk suggests the H5N1 outbreaks in Russia will be more severe this year than last year's outbreaks in Novosibirsk were reported in July, following the massive outbreak at Qinghai Lake in May. The H5N1 in southern Siberia lasted throughout the summer and declined when the wild waterfowl began to fly south.

This year, in addition to H5N1 in domestic poultry described above, there have been reports of wild waterfowl with H5 antibodies in Altai as well as northwestern Russia. H5N1 has also been reported rfecently in two counties in Qinghai Province.

As H5N1 migrates back to Russia from Africa, Europe, the Middle East, India, and China, more H5N1 infections are expected.




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Suspect Sumatra H5N1 Cluster Raises Pandemic Concerns

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May 10, 2006

Last casualties who died were Ana Br Ginting, the woman was 29 years old, the citizen Street Veteran, Kabanjahe, the capital of the Karo Regency. He died around struck 05.00 WIB, during in the maintenance in the central Public Hospital (RSUP) Adam the Owner, Street Bungalow Medan.

Two casualties beforehand that died was Roy Karo-Karo, 19 years. He
Died on May 9 2006, now his mother Praise Br Ginting died last May 4. Both of them were expected strong terjangkit the bird flu virus.

Now casualties that still was treated at this time, numbering five people. Four people that was treated in isolation space of RSUP Adam the Owner, respectively Jones Ginting (25), Bonny Karo-karo (18) and Renaita Tarigan (1.8 years), as well as Obviously Ulina Ginting (8).

While Rafael Ginting, 8 years, was treated in RS Elisabeth, Street Imam Breakingprep Bonjol Medan.

The above detail on the suspected H5N1 bird flu fatalities raises additional pandmeic concerns. The mother died on May 4 followed the death of her son on May 9 and another family member on May 10. The delay of 5-10 days between the index case and family members is the hallmark of person-to-person transmission of H5N1. In Indonesia, as many as 2/3 of cases are linked to family clusters and the vast majority of the clusters have the 5-10 day gap.

However, in the past familial clusters were smaller, generally invoving 2 or 3 people. This cluster has 8 family members who have died or are hospitalized with bird flu symptoms, signaling a more efficient transmission of H5N1.

H5N1 has been present in Indonesia since 2003, but the first reported human cases were reported last year. If the current cluster is positive for H5N1, they will be the largest cluster in Indonesia and the largest confirmed cluster if all test positive.

In any event, the large number of family members, ranging in age from 40 to 1.5 and the differences in onset dates suggests this cluster is cause for concern.




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Suspect H5N1 Bird Flu Cluster in North Sumatra Indonesia

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May 10, 2006

Roy Karokaro, 19 years, died to struck 11 days on last Tuesday (9/5).
Roy was treated in RSU Adam the Owner since last Monday night.
While Anta Beru Ginting, 29 years, died on Wednesday (10/5) at dawn earlier.

Roy Karokaro, Anta Beru Ginting as well as his five relatives was the reconciliation patient from RSU Kabanjahe, the Karo Land Regency.
Five relatives at this time still were treated intensive in the same hospital, namely Jones Ginting, Boni Karokaro and a pre-schooler be aged one half of the year, Renaita Beru Tarigan.

Whereas two last patients who were treated were Rafael Ginting and Obviously Beru Ginting.

All this patient had the family's direct relations and lived in the close house.

The above description of a large familial cluster in North Sumatra, Indonesia is cause for concern. Other reports indicated the mother has also died at an earlier date. The relatives have H5N1 bird flu symptoms and the extended time period for symptoms and admissions is cause for concern.

The number of fatalities has now grown to three and the condition of additional family members continues to deteriorate.

Familial clusters of H5N1 in Indonesia have been noted previously, but this is the largest suspected cluster reported to date.

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Sumatra H5N1 Cluster Linked to Fertilizer?

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May 11, 2006

the Family that was killed it was suspected resulting from bird flu in the Karo Regency, North Sumatra (North Sumatra) evidently liked to work the soil. They often bought manure from Binjai and Langkat, the area that his poultry was stated positive affected avian influenza (AI).

The above comments suggest that the suspected cluster of H5N1 bird flu cases is linked to contaminated fertilizer. However, although fertilizer may have led to infection of the index case, Praise br Ginting (40F aka Fuji Finting, 40M), who died May 4, there was a significant gap in the dates of death in other family members. Her son Roy Karokaro (19M) died on May 9 and the aunt, Anta br Ginting (29F) died on May 10.

At least 4 family members remain hospitalized. Boni Karakar (15 or 18M) is a brother who is in the most critical condition and is on a respirator. Cousin Reneita Boru Ginting (1.5F) is also in critical condition. Both are at RSU Adam. Cousin Obvious Ulina Ginting (8) may be another name for Rafael Ginting (8 or 10) who has been transferred to RS Elizabeth, along with uncle Jones Ginting (25 or 35M).

The spread in age and disease onset dates suggest the index case infected the other family members, rather than all 7 or 8 being infected by contaminated fertilizer. If H5N1was efficiently transmitted by fertilizer, the number of cases in North Sumatra, Binai. or Langkat would be higher.

The second H5N1 cluster in Indonesia was also said to linked to fertilizer last fall in Jakarta. However, like the cluster in Sumatra, there was a significant time gap between disease onset in the index case (aunt) and family member (nephew), both of whom were H5N1 positive. The aunt died and the nephew recovered after hospitalization with a mild case of influenza.
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H5N1 Bird Flu Confirmed in Patient and Poultry in Djibouti

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May 11, 2006

The health ministry said that virology tests from samples of an infected person taken last month were positive for the virulent strain of the flu virus, which had also affected three domestic fowl.

"Tests from a person suffering from flu-like symptoms on April 27 were positive for the disease," it said. "Three domestic hens were also affected by the virus."

The ministry said the tests were carried out with the collaboration of the World Health Organisation at a laboratory in Cairo.

The above confirmation of H5N1 bird flu in a patient in Djibouti raise additional concerns about the spread of H5N1 in people and poultry, and the failure to detect H5N1 in adjacent countries. Wild bird die-offs in adjacent southwest Yemen have been reported many times as have outbreaks in Ethiopia, Somalia, and Kenya. H5N1 has been repeatedly denied, but H5N1 confirmation in Sudan, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Iraq, and Iran raises significant credibility issues.

Similar credibility issues have become obvious due to reports from wildlife and wetland conservation groups as well as DEFRA. The groups, like countries adjacent to Djibouti have repeated cited negative bird flu data with no positive LPAI results to validate the collection and testing methodologies employed.

These groups then use te false negatives to deny the transmission and transport of H5N1 by wild birds, although dozens of countries in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa have reported H5N1 for the first time. Included in the list of countries in Africa that confirmed H5N1 are Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, and Ivory Coast.
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Suspect H5N1 Bird Flu Cluster in Djibouti

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May 12, 2006

A 2-year-old girl in Djibouti, the first confirmed human bird flu case in sub-Saharan Africa, was in stable condition on Friday while three siblings had tests for possible infection, the World Health Organisation said.

"Three of her siblings are undergoing investigation for possible infection. Their samples have been sent to the same laboratory," Cheng told Reuters in Geneva.

"They have flu-like symptoms," she said.

The family lives in a poor, rural area of the tiny country near the border with Somalia and kept chickens, Cheng said.

The above comments indicate the index case for Djibouti may be part of a familial cluster. The index case is the youngest index case for a familial cluster or for a country. Since 2005, all index cases for a country (Cambodia, Indonesia, China, Turkey, Iraq, Azerbaijan) with the exception of Egypt, have been part of a familial cluster. Egypt is the only country without a H5N1 bird flu familial cluster.

The location of the family near the border of Somalia and its proximity to southwestern Yemen again highlight the fact that many countries in Africa and the Middle East continue to deny H5N1 infections in people of animals.

The denials are supported by media reports of the absence of H5N1 in thousands or tens of thousands of wild birds. However, there reports of negative data are supplied by wildlife or wetlands conservation groups who have yet to disclose any data on the detection of low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI) in the tested birds. Low pathogenic avian influenza is common in wild waterfowl, and negative H5N1 data in the absence of positive data on LPAI says little about the presence of H5N1, but speaks volumes about the groups collecting the samples and the media report the data, which includes conclusions that wild birds play a minor role in the spread of H5N1.

However, 12 months ago, prior to the outbreak of H5N1 in long range waterfowl at Qinghai Lake, there were no reported cases of H5N1 in Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Europe, the Middle East, or Africa. H5N1 was first reported in each of these areas in the past 12 months, and these reports have firmly linked the H5N1 infections to wild waterfowl. In Europe, where the surveillance is more effective, the initial reports of H5N1 have been from waterfowl infections, and many European countries have yet to report H5N1 in domestic poultry.

In Djibouti, where surveillance is less than ideal, H5N1 was first reported in the index case and domestic poultry. However, there have been persistent reports of large die-offs of waterfowl since the fall, although H5N1 infections have been denied, usually without an explanation for the bird deaths and without evidence of detection of LPAI in wild birds being tested.
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Bird Flu in Wild Birds in Canada

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May 12, 2006

Specialists from Wetlands International, who were deputized by the Food and Agriculture Organization, sampled 7,500 African wild birds last winter in their search for the disease. They found no H5N1, Mr. Hagemeijer said.

The above comments and similar remarks by various wildlife and wetlands conservation groups has been widely quoted as evidence that wild waterfowl play a minor role in the spread of H5N1. H5N1 bird flu was largely limited to China and countries in east and southeast Asia prior to the massive outbreak at Qinghai Lake last May.

After May, 2005 the Qinghai strain of H5N1 spread to Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, and a number of countries in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. The spread followed migratory bird flyways, but comments by bird conservation groups for the past 12 months have minimized the role of migratory birds.

The chief arguments have been tightly linked to negative data generated by these groups or other government surveillance groups like DEFRA. These groups claim to have screened thousands or tens of thousands of wild birds and H5N1 is reported as non-existent or minimal.

Negative data however, provides little useful information unless it is accompanied by positive data demonstrating that the collection and testing procedures are valid. The positive control for such data is low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI), which is common in wild waterfowl. The data from DEFRA indicated that only two birds were positive for LPAI, and virus was not isolated from either. These data cast significant doubt on the DEFRA claim that only one bird of 7500 tested was positive for H5N1.

Canada has an ongoing avian influenza surveillance program and results are publicly available. The data for H5, H7, and avian influenza of all serotypes is available by location or species, and the data clearly show why the negative data by DEFRA, government agencies, and bird conservation groups are highly suspect.

In the Canadian study, bird flu was found in 1605 of the 4673 wild birds tested. This is in marked contrast to 3 positives in 7500 birds tested by DEFRA. The wildlife groups have not reported any LPAI detection in their testing. In the Canadian study, LPAI was detected in all species in which 25 or more were tested as indicated below.

These data raise serious questions about the credibility of the negative data on H5N1 in wild birds.

Below are number of birds positive for bird flu over number of birds tested (species with >25 birds tested)

American Black Duck    98/297

American Crow               4/51

American Wigeon          33/101

Blue-winged Teal          107/437

Gadwell                             1/36

Green-winged Teal        51/225

Hooded Merganser            7/26

Mallard                          1149/2612

Northern Pintail               26/135

Redhead                            19/225

Ring-necked Duck              8/51

Rock Dove                           2/33

Wood Duck                      66/104

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Fatalities in Sumatra H5N1 Cluster Increase to Five

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May 12, 2006

Casualties died on this day was Bonny Karo-karo (18). He died during in the maintenance in A Space of the Longing Isolation, the central Public Hospital (RSUP) Adam the Owner, Street Bungalow, Medan.

This time his casualties were Brenata.
The child was 18 months old was killed after could be treated intensive in Adam's central Public Hospital the Owner, Medan, North Sumatra, on Friday (12/5).


The above translations indicate the two family members who had been placed on respirators have died. This raises the number of family members who have died to five. If confirmed, this would be the largest number of fatal H5N1 bird flu cases in a single family cluster.
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Twelve Suspect H5N1 Patients Hospitalized in Medan Indonesia

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May 12, 2006

While 12 assumption patients of other bird flu were still being treated intensive in RSUP Adam the Owner.

Worry with the spreading of this deadly virus, the Government of the North Sumatran Province instructed the Health Service of the Karo Land to sterilise the area that it was suspected became the source of the spread.
The sterilisation was carried out in a radius of one kilometre.
Officially North Sumatran Livestock Breeding carried out the vaccination and spraying in the house environment of the casualties.

The above translation indicates 12 more suspected cases of H5N1 bird flu are being treated in intensive care at RSUP Adam, where five family members have already died. This may be why the two other hospitalized family members left the public hospital and are now in a private hospital, RS Elizabeth.

12 additional suspect cases are cause for concern. The first fatality was on May 4, followed by deaths on May 9, 10 and two deaths on May 12.

More information on the 12 hospitalized patients would be useful.
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cottonwood, at the end of every Recombinomics Commentary is a Media Link. I'm sorry I haven't included them in my posts. I will do so from now on. The site is: http://www.recombinomics.com/whats_new.html.
You can scroll to the bottom of each commentary and hit Media Link, then scroll down to the bottom and he will have his source link. Once again, sorry! Thanks for pointing it out.
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flashback to one of the first scenes in the Bird Flu Movie:
Female lead goes back to Asia to reveiew the patients who may have BF.  In the plane, on the way over, it was discussed that if there are less than 20 it may be possible to contain the BF.  They noted, they should be oke, 'cause there 'are only 8'.  Then, she gets to the hospital  in Asia, takes one look at all the hospital patients:
               'There's a lot more than 8 patients here' .......
Anyway you look at it ... the above posts are not very good! -k
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H5N1 Confirmed in Indonesian Sumatra Cluster

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May 12, 2006

the Department of the decisive Health of four citizens of the Subdistrict of three bows, the Karo Regency, North Sumatra, was infected by bird flu.That was justified by Pengendalian Breakingprep Penyakit Director General and Department of Health environmental Sanitation, I Nyoman Kandun in Jakarta, on Friday (12/5).Kandun said the Department of Health Body of Health Research And Development checked five from from eight cases

The above report confirms H5N1 in the Karo cluster. Since there are already five fatalities, this cluster accounts for the largest number of H5N1 fatalities and is cause for concern

At least 2 additional family members are hospitalized as are 12 other suspect cases.

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H5N1 Bird Flu Returns to Romania

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May 12, 2006

The H5 bird flu virus was detected yesterday in 50 birds found dead in central Romania, officials said, less than a month after the virus was said to have been eradicated from the country.

The new outbreak in Hurezu village is the 53rd to have been found in the country,


The return of H5n1 to Romania is not unexpected. Wild birds brought H5N1 into Africa through Romania and as they migrate back to the north, they bring H5N1 back to Romania. H5N1 is widespread in Europe and the Middle East and has reappeared in three regions in Russia and to counties in Qinghai China.

The data further undermine the credibility of reports by wildlife and watershed conservation groups, who generated massive numbers of false negatives to bolster their views on the role of wild birds in the spread of H5N1 throughout Africa, the Middle East, Europe, and Asia. These groups fail to report the detection of low pathogenic avian influenza, reducing the credibility of their reports.

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H5N1 Bird Flu Returns to Ukraine

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May 13, 2006

In the cormorants, that perished near Sivasha (Genicheskiy region of Kherson region), was discovered the virus of the bird influenza of sub-type H5.

Approximately 50 dead birds were discovered in that region at the end of April, reported on 12 May at the session of extraordinary anti-epizootic commission with oblgosadministratsii the chief for the administration for veterinary medicine in the region Sergey Kolomiyets.


The above comments describe the return of H5N1 to the Ukraine. Ukraine was another European country reporting H5N1 in 2005 as wild birds brought H5N1 into the area. As H5N1 migrates back toward the north H5N1 was reintroduced into the Ukraine. The same re-introduction has been noted for Romania, Russia, and China.


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Five Fatal H5N1 Cases in Sumatra Raise Pandemic Concerns

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May 13, 2006

The fatal H5N1 bird flu infections of five family members in Karo in North Sumatra has raised pandemic concerns. 2-3 additional family members are hospitalized, but 12 other suspect patients are of even greater concern.

Media reports have provided no detail on these other 12 patients. The hospital is 170 km from the family residence, so it is unclear why there are 12 more suspect patients at the hospital in Medan. Least worrisome would be hospital quarantine due to exposure to the family. However, transporting these patients 170 km as a precaution suggests the local level; of concern is high. Media reports had described panic in the region, but the panic is more likely to be in Karo than Medan.

If the 12 are casual contacts or hospital contacts, than the cause for concern would be increased. The five fatalities have already set a record for H5N1 clusters and so far none of the family members have been discharged. Two fled from the hospital, but they have been returned to a private hospital and their current medical condition is not clear.

The family members most severely affected have died, and the spread in the dates of death suggests human-to-human transmission from the index case to the other family members. Although fertilizer may have contributed to the infection of the index case, infection of the other family members from the fertilizer seems unlikely, unless the other 12 suspect cases also are linked to the fertilizer, which originated in areas that are H5N1 positive.

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In the WHO's update in March, wasn't 20 the magic number?  Something about it could be still contained up to 20.  So let's see first 8, now an additional 12.  This doesn't sound good.
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yeah, and another "magic" number coming out of computer simulations is 21--that is, they will only have 21 days to contain any pandemic.  (I think I remembered that number right.)
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If they only have 21 days to contain the pandemic and it takes almost two weeks to confirm bird flu, that doesn't give anyone alot of time to react.
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Originally posted by pugmom pugmom wrote:

yeah, and another "magic" number coming out of computer simulations is 21--that is, they will only have 21 days to contain any pandemic.  (I think I remembered that number right.)
 
Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

In the WHO's update in March, wasn't 20 the magic number?  Something about it could be still contained up to 20.  So let's see first 8, now an additional 12.  This doesn't sound good.
 
Originally posted by ReadyMom ReadyMom wrote:

flashback to one of the first scenes in the Bird Flu Movie:
Female lead goes back to Asia to reveiew the patients who may have BF.  In the plane, on the way over, it was discussed that if there are less than 20 it may be possible to contain the BF.  They noted, they should be oke, 'cause there 'are only 8'.  Then, she gets to the hospital  in Asia, takes one look at all the hospital patients:
               'There's a lot more than 8 patients here' .......
Anyway you look at it ... the above posts are not very good! -k
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We just watched the movie last night.

Seems like there are quite a few confirmed and unconfirmed clusters right now and who knows how many unreported ones.

Right now, I'm just hoping this virus becomes less lethal when it makes the big jump. I doubt that anyone anywhere will be able to stop or contain it.

We just wait ....
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Thanks Commonground for the exceptional coverage, we look forward to your next post.

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Yes, Thank you Commonground for putting all of these together in one place.
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Originally posted by Ruth Ruth wrote:

If they only have 21 days to contain the pandemic and it takes almost two weeks to confirm bird flu, that doesn't give anyone alot of time to react.
 

News Release

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, Feb. 3, 2006

Contact: CDC Press Office
(404) 639-3286

FDA Approves New Laboratory Test To Detect Human Infections With Avian Influenza A/H5 Viruses

Lab Test Developed by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

HHS' Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today announced the approval of a new laboratory test to diagnose H5 strains of influenza in patients suspected to be infected with the virus. The test was developed by another HHS agency, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The product approved today is called the Influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) Virus Real-time RT-PCR Primer and Probe Set. The test provides preliminary results on suspected H5 influenza samples within four hours once a sample arrives at the lab and testing begins. Previous testing technology would require at least two to three days to render results. If the presence of the H5 strain is identified, then further testing is conducted to identify the specific H5 subtype (e.g., H5N1).

"This laboratory test is a major step forward in our ability to more quickly detect cases of H5 avian influenza and provides additional safeguards to protect public health," HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt said. "Thanks to the expeditious and collaborative efforts of CDC and FDA, the availability of this new test gives us one more tool to keep up with the ever changing nature of influenza viruses."

Since December 2003, more than 160 human cases of avian flu caused by the H5N1 strain of influenza have been reported in Thailand, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Turkey and Iraq. More than half of the people infected with the H5N1 virus have died. Nearly all of these cases are believed to have been caused by exposure to infected poultry. The concern is that H5N1 will evolve into a virus capable of human-to-human transmission and lead to an influenza pandemic.

"Preparing for a possible flu pandemic is a top priority for our nation, and FDA acted quickly to evaluate and expedite CDC's request for approval of this test," Acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach said. "Using flexible regulatory authorities, FDA was able to prioritize this expedited approval based on the clear critical need without compromising the quality or integrity of the FDA review process."

A flu pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus emerges for which people have little or no immunity and for which there is no vaccine. In an influenza pandemic, the disease spreads easily from person to person in a sustained manner, causes serious illness, and can sweep across the country and around the world in very short time. It is difficult to predict when the next influenza pandemic will occur or how severe it will be.

This test will be distributed to Laboratory Response Network (LRN)-designated laboratories to enhance early detection and surveillance activities as well as increase laboratory response capacity associated with a potential pandemic. Domestically the LRN is a system of about 140 labs in all 50 states. LRN labs have special experience and training in molecular testing methods, special bio-safety facilities and containment procedures as well as communication networks connected to public health programs across the country. The testing kits will be distributed by CDC beginning next week. CDC has also shared the test technology with the World Health Organization and its collaborating centers around the world.

“The use of this test by laboratories that are part of the LRN, in conjunction with other laboratory testing and clinical observations, may enable earlier detection of influenza cases caused by this specific virus and allow public health agencies to investigate sources of infection and more quickly respond with control and prevention activities,” said CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding.

Information obtained from this test will be used to track cases of illness with this strain of virus. Testing for this virus is indicated when a patient has symptoms of severe respiratory illness and a risk of exposure (e.g., direct contact with sick, dead or infected poultry in a country with outbreaks of influenza H5N1 among poultry).

CDC recommends that testing for influenza A/H5 (Asian lineage) should be considered on a case-by-case basis in consultation with local or state health departments. If a clinician suspects a patient may be infected with an avian influenza virus, they should contact their state or local health department. CDC's full recommendations are available at http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm55e203a1.htm. Further information on the expedited review process used by FDA for this approval can be found at: http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/avianflu/process.html.

For information on pandemic influenza, state summits and preparedness activities go to http://www.pandemicflu.gov.

 

 

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Nice test, but maybe Too Late!  With the budget cuts for the CDC here in the USA, and general funding problems for the international efforts, labs may not even have been able to prepare orders to get this test yet.
 
 We'll know in a week on the Sumatra cluster!  Sure would be nice to know the same day.
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I have read reports that they have distributed the test.. in February... my guess would be to the areas they feel need the most 1st....
 
They may not release the results to the pulblic until well after they have come up with thier game plan!
 
Originally posted by fiddlerdave2 fiddlerdave2 wrote:

Nice test, but maybe Too Late!  With the budget cuts for the CDC here in the USA, and general funding problems for the international efforts, labs may not even have been able to prepare orders to get this test yet.
 
We'll know in a week on the Sumatra cluster!  Sure would be nice to know the same day.
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Hi there Ruth!!  Your post that 21 days doesn't leave very much time to contain pandemic after the week or so it takes to check specimens, is exactly what the experts said in the article I read.  Especially since most of the patients have been ill for up to a week before seeking treatment.  Then, extra time needed if you want positive confirmation by a WHO lab, then time to fly everyone in and start people on Tamiflu, etc, etc.  Plus, they have to do their epidemiological interviews and find out all the contacts.  Just too much!  Catcha again when PM's are up.   pugmom
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Another Fatal H5N1 Case in North Sumatra Indonesia

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May 14, 2006

five patients suspect bird flu from the Simbelang Fortification Village, the Subdistrict of three bows, the Karo Land Regency died in Adam's Public Hospital the Owner, Medan, North Sumatra.One of the patients suspect bird flu that meningal the world was Rafael Ginting, 10, that blew out the last breath, on Saturday, struck 14.00 WIB after getting the maintenance for five days.Four patients suspect other bird flu that died that is Bony Karo-Karo, 18, Anta br Ginting, 29, Fuji br Ginting, 40 and Roy Karo-Karo, 19.Whereas the patient suspect bird flu that at this time still was treated that is Brenata br Tarigan, 1,5 and Jonnes Ginting, 25,

The above translation describes the death of another family members in the cluster from Karo. It contradicts an earlier report that indicated Brenata br (aka Reneita) Ginting had died on Friday. Other reports also indicated the baby is still alive, but her condition is deteriorating and she is on a respirator. Similarly, Jonnes Ginting was returned to the hospital after his condition also began to worsen. The only family member who is alive and not hospitalized is Obvious Ulina Gintining, who is being treated at her home in Karo.

Media reports also indicate that the first four fatalities and Jonnes Ginting have tested positive for H5N1 bird flu. At least three of the positive samples have been sent to Hong Kong for confirmation. In the past, virtually all samples that have been positive when tested in Jakarta have been confirmed by Hong Kong. Thus, if samples from all eight family members are properly collected, the number of WHO confirmed cases in Indonesia would increase by eight. Currently WHO has reported confirmed 33 cases and 25 deaths. Thus, these 8 cases would dramatically increase the number of confirmed Indonesian cases and would represent the largest and most fatal cluster confirmed to date in Indonesia.

In the past, many of the confirmed cases from Indonesia have been linked to familial or geographic clusters and most of these cases have been in or around Jakarta. The cluster described above is in North Sumatra and raises pandemic concerns.

Infection of eight members of one family indicates the efficiency of transmission to humans has increased. Moreover, five members of the cluster have already died (on May 4, 9, 10, 12, 13) and two more are hospitalized in declining health.

Although some "worst case" pandemic scenarios have used a case fatality rate of 2-5%, the current outbreak indicates the rate could be markedly higher for H5N1 that is more efficiently transmitted. Although there still is no evidence that H5N1 is easily transmitted between humans, media reports of 12 additional patients hospitalized in Medan with bird flu symptoms is cause for concern.


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Fatal H5N1 Cases in North Sumatra Increase to Six

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May 14, 2006

An Indonesian toddler who had tested positive for bird flu according to local tests died on Sunday, a senior health ministry official said.

The 18-month boy's blood sample has been sent to a World Health Organisation-affiliated laboratory in Hong Kong for confirmation.

The above comments indicate the sixth family member has died. Local reports had reported the death on Friday, but reports had been conflicting. The above new report confirms that the patient has died and has tested positive for H5N1. The six deaths from one family is the most H5N1 deaths reported for a familial cluster.

Currently two other family members with symptoms are still alive. One, Jonnes Ginting, is hospitalized, while another, Obvious Ulina Ginting, is being treated at home in Karo.

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H5N1 Symptoms in North Sumatra Health Care Worker

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May 14, 2006

A nurse who attended to some of the patients also came down with an influenza-like illness, although she seems to have shown symptoms prior to treating the patients, according to Dr. Kandun. She and others in the family's village are currently being tested for the virus.

Symptoms in health care workers caring for H5N1 bird flu patients are cause for concern. There are eight family members with birds lfu symptoms in a cluster in Medan, Indonesia. Six of the family members have died and at least 5 members in the cluster have tested positive for H5N1. This is the largest fatal cluster of H5N1 reported to date.

Media reports have indicated the hospital in Medan has 12 additional patients with bird flu symptoms. The relationship of these 12 patients to the 8 family members (who live in Karo but were hospialized in Medan) remains unclear, as do the dates of admission.

The index case for the familial cluster died on May 4 and the family members were admitted on or about the same day. It remains unclear when the additional 12 cases were admitted or if any of these patients had contact with the health care worker with symptoms.

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This does't sound good, I wish we had some form of "first hand" connection to the hospitals involved.  I know that's not likely, but it would be very nice.  bj
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Suspect H5N1 Patients in Jakarta Increase Pandemic Concerns

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May 14, 2006

Three patients were treated in intensive maintenance space (ICU), one him again in the Intensive Cempaka Maintenance. The patient beinisial "B", was four years old, was treated in ICU since May 11. "B" became the patient with suspect bird flu because of having his family's member with initials "M." (43 years) beforehand has suffered avian influenza. "M." became the patient suspect bird flu/because of having his property poultry that died. "M. was" treated" in ICU RSPI Sulianti Saroso since last May 8. Moreover, the patient with initials "Mr" (12 years) also was treated in ICU. "Mr" it was suspected suffered bird flu because his neighbour maintained the poultry. Now the newest patient, the man had the initials "H" (27 years), was treated in Intensive Cempaka Maintenance space. "H" it was suspected suffered bird flu because of maintaining the poultry.

The above translation describes additional suspect H5N1 bird flu cases in Jakarta. Included is yet another familial cluster (between "B" and "M"). These are in addition to the family of eight in North Sumatra where six have died, and five are H5N1 positive.

There is also a health care worker with symptoms as well as 12 additional suspect cases who are hospitalized in Medan.

These additional cases increase pandemic concerns,

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Tests on North Sumatra Contacts of H5N1 Cluster

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May 15, 2006

Officially the North Sumatran Health carried out the taking of blood and wiped off the throat to 59 people. They were 5 nurses RS Elisabeth, 2 patients Suspect , the community in the Simbelang Fortification Village, the Subdistrict of three bows, the Karo Regency, as well as the medical staff in RS Kabanjahe, the Clinic G the Arena, the Melva Clinic, RS the Ester, and RSUP Adam the Owner, Medan.

Named by Eddy, the data from the Command Post KLB the Director General P2PL Department of Health, Jakarta, to May 13 2006, was met by 158 cases of bird flu in Indonesia, 35 cases Confirm Or positive WHO (26 died), 19 cases Probable Or was waiting confirm WHO (9 died), 103 cases Suspect (36 died), and 356 cases not bird flu.

From this number, the province that was stated Confirm Namely the Special Capital District of Jakarta, Banten, West Java, Central Java, and Lampung. Whereas that Probable , East Java, North Sumatra and South Sulawesi, now that suspect Yogyakarta, East Kalimantan, South Sumatra, and Riau.

The above translation lists the contacts of the 8 family members who were hospitalized with bird flu symptoms. The index case had been hospitalized at RS Elizabeth in Medan. Most of the family members were hospitalized at RSUP Adan Malik, the public hospital in Medan after transfer from RS Kabanjahe in Karo. It seems likely that family members were at the additional locations listed. Six of the family members have died and five have tested positive for H5N1 bird flu. The condition of one of the living family members, Jonnes Ginting is worsening. He is hospitalized at RSUP Adam Malik. The other member, Obviosu Ulina Ginting, has a high fever and breathing difficulties, and is at RS Elizabeth. At least one of the health care workers has flu-like symptoms, which developed before treatment of family members. However, there are 12 additional suspect patients at Adam Malik, and information on these patients has not been disclosed.

There are also patients being treated in Jakarta, and as noted in the cumulative figures the number of probable or suspect cases is markedly higher than the WHO confirmed cases. Samples positive in Indonesia are almost always confirmed in Hong Kong, although confirmation may take weeks. However, because samples generally are not collected until patients are transferred to an infectious disease hospital, many patients die with bird flu symptoms, but samples are not collected or are collected after H5N1 has been cleared from the nose or throat, but is present in the lungs of the victims.

As noted above, H5N1 is widespread in Indonesia, but the cluster of 8 with 6 fatalities is the largest recorded to date, and is cause for concern.

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Efficient Transmission of H5N1 to Karo Cluster Members

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Praise br Ginting experienced was sick to last April 27 2006, with the sign of the continuous high fever to the temperature of his body reached 390 C was accompanied by coughs.

The midwife the Village, Spoilt br Karo that was assigned in this village to be accompanied by the Sub-district Head three bows Drs could we Sinulingga, to the reporter, on Tuesday afternoon (9/5) said that himself could treat casualties several days in Pustu (the auxiliary Community Health Centre), afterwards saw his condition that did not improve then was reconciled to RSU Kabanjahe. Spoilt added, casualties died to last May 3 2006.

Added Spoilt, second casualties Roy Karo-Karo that also the son of the uterus from Praise br Ginting after his mother died last May 3, also fell ill, afterwards immediately was reconciled to RSU Kabanjahe. Because of the illness that was suffered by him almost be the same as that was experienced by his mother, afterwards was reconciled to RS Adam the Owner, Medan. However, after several days were treated in Medan, finally Roy also died in RS Adam the Owner on May 9 2006.

The above translation of the initial symptoms in members of the H5N1 cluster from Karo points toward human-to-human transmission. Most of the H5N1 bird flu clusters described to date have a 5-10 day gap in disease onset dates between the index case and other family members. The dates above indicate that the index case developed symptoms on April 27, 2006 and her oldest son became ill around the time of her death. That was followed by symptoms developing the other family members. Six of the eight have now died and the remaining two are hospitalized at Adam Malik or Elizabeth hospitals in Medan in North Sumatra. The dates of death for the other family members were May 10, 12, 13, 14.

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WHO Confirms H5N1 Cluster In Indonesia

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"There are six confirmations. One from Surabaya and five from Medan. One from Medan is still alive," said Sari Setiogi, the WHO's Indonesia spokeswoman.

An outbreak of H5N1 bird flu involving up to eight members of a family at Medan in North Sumatra province has worried health agencies around the world but a Health Ministry official said on Wednesday it was not a case of human-to-human transmission.

The WHO confirmation of 5 Medan cases is not a surprise.  Virtually all cases that test positive in Indonesia are confirmed by the WHO associated  lab in Hong Kong.  There are
eight members in the cluster and six have died.  In local testing, it appears that only one of the eight has tested negative, although false negatives are common.  Since one of the surviving members of the clusters has tested positive, the size of the cluster is at least seven members, including six fatalities.

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April 27, indicating that this cluster, like the majority of H5N1 clusters is another example of human-to-human transmission.  Local media has mentioned a family gathering, but this is yet another mechanism for the creation of familial clusters.  This is similar to the large cluster in Turkey, which was precede by a family gathering between cousins.  The index case had developed symptoms prior to the gathering, and many family members developed symptoms after the gathering.

Although these large clusters have not generated a pandemic thus far, the large clusters have demonstrated a more efficient transmission to humans, and the presence of an index case with symptoms strongly implicates human-to-human transmission.

The first H5N1 confirmed case in Indonesia was also a
cluster.  The sequence of the HA from the father in that cluster has been made public, and it has a novel cleavage site (RESRRKKR).  Although these have now been many sequences from bird isolates released, none have had this cleavage site, nor have any other HA sequences at GenBank. 

The failure to release additional human sequences raises concerns that these sequences do not support a poultry origin, but such data is being withheld. WHO maintains a large private database and those sequences should be released immediately.

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Evidence for Human Transmission of H5N1 in Indonesian Cluster

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May 17, 2006

According to the World Health Organisation and experts familiar with the case, the family -- which raised a small number of pigs and had chickens, ducks and geese in the neighbourhood -- held a barbecue on April 29 when they ate pork and chicken.

The first person to fall ill was a 37-year-old woman, and two of her sons, her brother, sister, niece and nephew later fell sick. Except for the woman's brother, everyone has since died.

The above comments provide
additional evidence for human-to-human transmission of H5N1in the Medan cluster.  Local media reports indicate the mother developed symptoms on April 27, two days prior to the gathering.  The mother was locally hospitalized and died May 4. The other family members developed symptoms around the time of her death and were hospitalized May 5.  The first fatality was May 9, flowed by deaths on May 10, 12, 13, 14.  This bimodal distribution of disease onset dates is common for familial clusters, and supports a mechanism of human-to-human transmission.

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size of the cluster (7 or 8) and number of fatalities (6) are the largest reported to date in Indonesia and raise concerns that the H5N1 transmission to humans is becoming more efficient.  A similar increase in Turkey was linked to a change in the receptor binding domain (S227N) and similar changes in Indonesia are cause for concern.  The only human HA sequence from Indonesia has a new glycosylation site and a novel cleavage site, but the sequence is from a fatality from last July.

More human sequences, including the current cluster, would be useful and sequences sequestered by WHO should be
released immediately.

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Bekasi H5N1 Cluster Continues to Grow

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May 17, 2006

A 12-year-old Indonesian boy died of bird flu four days ago in Jakarta's eastern suburb of Bekasi, a health ministry official said on Wednesday, citing the results of local tests.

Blood samples have been sent to a World Health Organisation-affiliated laboratory in Hong Kong for confirmation, spokeswoman Lily Sulistyowati said.

The confirmation of H5N1 bird flu in another Bekasi resident is cause for concern. Almost all cases that are H5N1 positive in Jakarta are confirmed by Hong Kong. Recently four suspect cases in Jakarta were described. However, the cluster of cases in Bekasi has been noted recently as well as last year (see October map).

This geographical cluster is cause for concern. The Medan cluster indicates H5N1 in Indonesia is becoming more efficient at infecting humans, and the continuing confirmation of Bekasi fatalities suggest transmission in the Jakarta area is also becoming more efficient.

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Withheld Novel Human H5N1 Sequences in Indonesia

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May 17, 2006

The latest cluster in Indonesia again raises the question of human-to-human (H2H) transmission. As in most familial clusters, there is a 5–10 day gap between the disease onset date (April 27) of the index case, and other family members (May 3–4). In addition, the family members were at an April 29 BBQ, suggesting they were infected there by the index case. The number of clusters in Indonesia remains high. In addition to the familial clusters, there is a geographical cluster in Bekasi.

These clusters are cause for concern, as is Indonesia’s testing procedures. Samples for testing are collected at infectious disease hospitals. Thus, milder cases that recover are not tested for H5N1. Moreover, most tested are first asked about contact with poultry, thereby limiting testing of patients infected by mammals, including humans and cats.

Only one human H5N1 HA sequence has been made public and it has a novel cleavage sit, RESRRKKR. This sequence is not found in any of the many bird H5N1 sequences released from Indonesia and it is not in any H5N1 sequence at GenBank.

There are now over 30 confirmed human cases in Indonesia, and H5N1 has been isolated and sequenced from many. However, these sequences are being withheld and some comments have suggested that many of the human sequences have RESRRKKR, suggesting the source of infection is not avian.

The withholding of these mammalian H5N1 sequences from Indonesia should not be tolerated. The evidence for H2H in Indonesia continues to increase, as do the number of human sequences that are being withheld. Below are some of the recent avian HA sequences made public. None have the RESRRKKR cleavge site found in the Indonesian cluster from July, 2005.

Recent avian H5N1 sequences from Indonesia:

DQ497642.1 A/chicken/Malang/BBVet-IV/2004(H5N1)

DQ497643.1 A/chicken/Magetan/BBVW/2005(H5N1)

DQ497644.1 A/chicken/Ngawi/BPPV4/2004(H5N1)

DQ497645.1 A/chicken/Pekalongan/BPPV4/2003(H5N1)

DQ497646.1 A/chicken/Sragen/BPPV4/2003(H5N1)

DQ497647.1 A/quail/Boyolali/BPPV4/2004(H5N1)

DQ497648.1 A/chicken/Purworejo/BBVW/2005(H5N1)

DQ497649.1 A/quail/Yogjakarta/BBVet-IX/2004(H5N1)

DQ497650.1 A/chicken/Kulon Progo/BBVet-XII-2/2004(H5N1)

DQ497651.1 A/chicken/Gunung Kidal/BBVW/2005(H5N1)

DQ497652.1 A/chicken/Kulon Progo/BBVW/2005(H5N1)

DQ497653.1 A/chicken/Purwakarta/BBVet-IV/2004(H5N1)

DQ497654.1 A/quail/Tasikmalaya/BPPV4/2004(H5N1)

DQ497655.1 A/chicken/Bangli Bali/BBPV6-1/2004(H5N1)

DQ497656.1 A/chicken/Bangli Bali/BPPV6-2/2004(H5N1)

DQ497657.1 A/chicken/Jembrana/BPPV6/2004(H5N1)

DQ497658.1 A/chicken/Mangarai-NTT/BPPV6/2004(H5N1)

DQ497659.1 A/duck/Parepare/BBVM/2005(H5N1)

DQ497660.1 A/chicken/Kupang-2-NTT/BPPV6/2004(H5N1)

DQ497661.1 A/chicken/Kupang-3-NTT/BPPV6/2004(H5N1)

DQ497662.1 A/chicken/Kupang-1-NTT/BPPV6/2004(H5N1)


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Novel Human H5N1in Indonesia Raises Pandemic Concerns

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The recent large cluster in Indonesia has refocused attention on human-to-human transmission and the novel cleavage site in human HA H5N1. Although cleavage sites can change, there has been no evidence for a species specific change.

The first H5N1 isolated in Asia in 1996 in the Guangdong goose had the highly pathogenic sequences of RERRRKKR. That sequence has found in the human cases in 1997 as well as most human and animal isolates in Asia. In 2005 milder cases in northern Vietnam had been noted and those cases had lost an R in the cleavage site, which was then RERRKKR. Recently, China released human sequence data and those sequences were closely related to a Fujian strain, which was missing a K, giving the sequence RERRRKR. However, that cleavage site had been found in a duck in Fujian province and had been in bird H5N1 sequences dating back to 2003. The Qinghai strain of H5N1 has a unique sequence of GERRRKKR, which is found in virtually all of the Qinghai isolates, including human isolates from Iraq and Egypt.

Thus, although the cleavage can change, the change is typically found in both mammals and birds. The bird H5N1 sequences from Indonesia have the common sequence of RERRRKKR and the recent sequences from Indonesia span isolates from 2003 to 2005. However, the human isolate from 2005 has the novel sequence RESRRKKR. This sequence is not found in any of the avian H5N1 Indonesian sequences or any other H5N1 sequence at GenBank. However, the one sequence is not definitive because there are some novel sequences that have not become widespread and may lack significance.

However, a report that a cat sequence from Indonesia has the same change is cause for concern, as is the comment that many additional human sequences from Indonesia also have the same change. A large number of human isolates with RESRRKKR, in the absence of any avian sequences with RESRRKKR, would indicate that birds were not a source of the human H5N1 infections.

These data raise concerns that the human sequences are due to infection by H5N1 from other humans or other mammals. Since there have been over 30 confirmed cases of human H5N1 in Indonesia, the WHO private database would have the answer to the frequency of human H5N1 with the novel cleavage site.

If that data validates the comment that several human and cats sequences have the novel site, then the claims that the human cases were due to poultry infections would be suspect and the limited testing, which requires association with dying poultry should be expanded to those who have bird flu symptoms, but lack a poultry connection.

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This is the most significant piece of information that has appeared on the subject imho. It would suggest that the virus has already mutated which many of us had already guessed. Significant _that there are NO BIRDS with this latest strain of the H5 but there is a human and cat with newest form of the disease.
 
Also alarming is the fact that the WHO is keeping this information in a confidential database.  Why is this information being withheld as the disease is in its early stages and they KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT.
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PonyGirl - my guess as to the motive for secrecy would be money.

As horrible as the prospect of a pandemic is, there is a lot of money in it for whoever develops the vaccine first.

Just my opinion but greed usually wins over concern for others.
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Absolutely it is about money.  The well-connected pharmaceutical firms that are getting this information out the back door will reap UNTOLD BILLIONS by being first with a vaccine, and they are UTTERLY INDIFFERENT to the millions of deaths their secrecy strategy will cause.  Death is their stock in trade, their path to billions every day, and this one is the Big One for them.  Open Source and other non-profit  endeavors are demonstrating the myth that this sort of business model is the only way.  It is completely disgusting that research and information paid for with taxpayer money goes to a few well-connected companies for their sole benefit at the cost of untold money and lives to all of us.
 
For a level business playing field, ALL information from public sources should be distributed  publicly immediately.  But these companies are masters at creating a rigged game.
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oknut & fiddlerdave2 are right, it's about patents.
    
    
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