Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
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Report Blames Flu on Industrial Poultry Farms Not Backyard Birds
By staff | Feb 27, 2006 http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/EnvironmentNewsService/2006/02/27/1254939?cl=&pbl=222 |
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Hmmm, must dig out my recipes for pigeon, aka the free-range urban chicken!
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Give it up guys !
lets face it , the spread of Bird flu is a combination of 1. The transmission by wild birds. 2. Trade in poultry ( sale ) 3. Spread within flocks of farmed poultry whether large operations or small holdings. 4. Other creatures , bats , rats , cats etc . Whether disease spread is caused by factory farms depends very much on the quality of the operation and it is impossible to generalize . Some operations are very well run and others are horrendous . If you want to ban factory farming I suggest you argue on the grounds of cruelty rather than spread of disease. There is also a great suspicion that the people producing many of these reports have their own little wheel barrow to push at the expense of scientific honesty. Personally speaking , if bird flu comes to my area I would eat a factory chook before a free-range chook every time . |
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Factory Farms or Bird Flu? Our choice:
http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/EnvironmentNewsService/2006/02/27/1254939?cl=&pbl=222 |
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Avian genocide or bird flu! Our choice!!
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A professor mine once had this to say about the science and math in published papers...
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
A reputable scientist can manipulate the numbers to say anything he or she wants them to say. You say 50% of the men in the world are bald? I say that 50% have exhibited miraculous hair growth and that they must be studied to determine what sets them apart from everyone else. Ya know, i could probably get a gov't grant to study this condition...well, maybe if i was a scientist i could...
So don't believe everything you read, even in reputable journals. I mean, there was a time when reputable journals claimed that the world was flat, that mankind could never achieve flight, and that a journey to the moon was preposterous.
This factory farming is a theory, albeit one with some form of empirical evidence. But it may yet be discovered that there is something underlying the supposed cause, and when that happens, the theory will change, and people will look foolish to have blamed it all on factory farming.
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As a scientist working in disaster preparedness, I have to respect the evidence, which now supports the various factory-farm cause hypotheses with a solid theory based on all of the evidence. I don't want to engage in arguing the science on the internet because it won't help, but it is interesting and instructive to see the attempts to portray the slight doubt that remains as outweighing the best science. I don't run into any of that among serious people, so it's good to get a preview of the industry marketing campaign that the WHO and others will have to contend with as they incorporate these new and solid findings into their policy.
Unfortunately, there's no international body that can prohibit factory farming, so it's up to consumers to reduce consumption and so reduce factory farming until the world reaches agreement. Considering the dramatic rise in public awareness after the Bernard Matthews outbreak, and the tremendous drop in consumption that followed, we could see a resolution this year if outbreaks continue. (imho :) Here is a link to an industry publication reporting today on further poultry job losses linked to drop in demand: http://www.worldpoultry.net/ts_wo/worldpoultry.portal/enc/_nfpb/true/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3_actionOverride/___2Fportlets___2Fts___2Fge___2Fnews_singleeditorschoice1___2Fcontent___2FshowDetailsList/_windowLabel/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3id/13305/_desktopLabel/worldpoultry/_pageLabel/tswo_page_news_content/ Another pointer to a rapid resolution is suggested by the current precipitous drop in Asian and world markets on the day that Indonesian banks advised investors that flood and bird flu mean falling economy: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/27/bloomberg/sxasia.php |
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Here is a report on the financial state of the factory farming poultry industry in the southeast US, where I live, that mentions that bird flu has recently impacted prices, and that feed prices have soared because of weather.
http://www.247wallst.com/2007/02/safm_chicken_pu.html |
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if we kill all the birds ....the bugs will eat us up.
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Dr. Michael Greger, director of Public Health and Animal Agriculture at the Humane Society of the United States, has new book, “Bird Flu: A Virus of Our Own Hatching.” In his book, he discusses his belief that the naturally occurring range of avian flu viruses present in waterfowl combined with a new and unnatural poultry industry practice of confining chickens has created the potential for a deadly flu pandemic among humans.
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Industry reports steady decline in demand:
"Poultry prices decrease in Pakistan // 02 Mar 2007 The price of domestic poultry has been steadily decreasing due to a decline in demand, according to poultry wholesalers. The once fast growing poultry industry has been a victim of bird flu menace since 2004. The poultry industry was providing 45% of meat products to people across the country. Poultry producers feel that in addition to actual cases, inauthentic reports of bird flu in electronic and print media have caused million of rupees losses to poultry farmers across the country. They said that many small poultry farmers have shut their farms after huge losses hit them over the last two years." http://www.worldpoultry.net/ts_wo/worldpoultry.portal/enc/_nfpb/true/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3_actionOverride/___2Fportlets___2Fts___2Fge___2Fnews_singleeditorschoice1___2Fcontent___2FshowDetailsList/_windowLabel/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3/tswo_portlet_news_singleeditorschoice1_3id/13320/_desktopLabel/worldpoultry/_pageLabel/tswo_page_news_content/ This poultry industry publication asserts that false BF reports have caused industry losses. Of course, the assertion of false reports is itself false, which only the few hundred people tracking BF news worldwide know. Add to this the documented blackouts on events in Indonesia and China, and there is a strong trend emerging towards a dangerously misinformed general public. |
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kparcell,
Pardon me for saying so, but you seem to have a one-track mind when it comes to this factory-farming bit. We won't see eye to eye on this issue, so I think i'll just ignore this and any other factory-farming related threads from now on.
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AnnHara - Bugs are going to be big winners. Bird flu will probably cause
there to be less birds to eat bugs and more bodies for bugs to eat. Buy some more fly and mosquito spray for your preps is my suggestion . |
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Thanks, FW, and good luck with your writing.
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Bugs might win short term, but long term is uncertain. Overhunting of plankton-eating whales in the Pacific resulted in huge plankton blooms, with the bacteria eating the plankton also consuming all of the oxygen in the water, resulting in vast dead zones.
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Reviewing the various stories put out by the poultry industry and the latest reports from real news agencies, it seems that the industry continues supporting an end to backyard farms to fight BF. Now that the science shows that the backyard farms are not the source of infection and that the end of backyard farms means increased hunger, we will see whether the poultry industry adjusts its policy, or if its purpose is to use BF to eliminate the small farmer rather than protect the public health.
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In a nutshell...
"...Man’s interference with nature was identified as a key factor with a serious impact on eco-health. The preliminary findings of a new report by the Canadian academic Dr David Rapport were presented at the seminar. The report addresses linkages between the emerging threat of an HPAI pandemic and a continuously deteriorating environment. The loss of ecosystem health places humans at risk. The conservation and restoration of large areas of wetlands can dissolve the increasing conflict between wild birds, land uses and farming practices. “Intensive poultry operations along migratory wild bird routes are incompatible with protecting the health of ecosystems that birds depend upon. They also increase the risks of transfer of pathogens between migrating birds and domestic fowl,” says the study. "
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While we chat about the pro's and con's of chicken virus man , seems they have been busy working on rice .....
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Thank you for info on these other diseases and problems, however none of these other diseases are caused by poultry industry concentrating production into crowded facilities, and the other diseases are not going to kill 90% of the pregnant women in the world who catch them if we don't shut down factory farms.
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"Yani Mulyani, 25, who was five months pregnant, died along with her fetus while she was being treated at Sulianti Saroso, the main hospital treating bird flu patients in the capital, said hospital spokesman Ilham Patu."
This is perhaps the first woman and unborn child to die from H5N1, just one year ago. She had the best treatment and no chance, except, of course, if factory farming was stopped. http://www.todayonline.com/articles/104900.asp |
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Here is report about panic in the middle class suburbs when Bird Flu first killed in Indonesia.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/24/AR2005072401146.html Very similar to Bernard Mathews factory farm outbreak: no backyard poultry, just terrified people. |
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Sunday, March 4, 2007
Meat-Out event planned for next week RHINEBECK — The Mid-Hudson Vegetarian Society has scheduled its annual Meat-Out event for 4:30 p.m. March 11 at the Church of the Messiah in Rhinebeck. The guest speaker will be Dr. Michael Greger, director of Public Health and Animal Agriculture at the Humane Society of the United States, who will be discussing his new book, “Bird Flu: A Virus of Our Own Hatching.” In his book, he discusses his belief that the naturally occurring range of avian flu viruses present in waterfowl combined with a new and unnatural poultry industry practice of confining chickens has created the potential for a deadly flu pandemic among humans. The event also features a vegan potluck with no meat, dairy eggs or other animal ingredients. Cost is $10 with a dish or $25 without a dish. Children 12 and under admitted free. For reservations, e-mail rsvp@mhvs.org or call 845-876-2626. |
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"The protection of Britain’s £3.4bn poultry industry appeared to be taking greater priority than the risk to human health."
http://wsws.org/articles/2007/mar2007/flu-m05.shtml ......................................... Food industry implicated in Britain’s bird flu outbreak By Barry Mason 5 March 2007 Use this version to print | Send this link by email | Email the author On January 30, some dead turkeys were found in one of the intensive rearing sheds that form part of the Bernard Matthews turkey farm and processing plant in Holton, Suffolk in eastern England. The following day more turkeys were found dead and by February 3 more than a thousand had died. Local vets were called in and, at first, E coli was suspected. Only after 48 hours had elapsed since the first bird deaths was the government Department of Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) called in. Their vets established that the birds had died of the highly virulent bird flu strain H5N1. This virus has killed many birds throughout the world since its initial outbreak four years ago. To date, world wide, over 160 people have died of the H5N1 bird flu strain, most as a result of close proximity to diseased birds. As yet the virus has not mutated to a form where it can be transmitted from human to human. This is an ever present danger. Because of the novel genetic make-up of the virus, and subsequent lack of previous human exposure, the virus has the potential to cause a human flu pandemic on the scale of the 1918 outbreak of “Spanish Flu” in which millions died. Once it had been established that the turkeys had died of H5N1 type bird flu, the whole of the 160,000 flock of turkeys on the farm were slaughtered. After the cull had taken place, DEFRA scientists investigated the cause of the outbreak of the disease. First inclinations were to suspect transmission from a wild bird that had somehow entered the rearing sheds. Last year a swan found dead in Scotland was diagnosed as having died of the H5N1 virus. It was thought to have flown in from the continent where there have been several outbreaks of the disease. However, DEFRA scientists analysing the viral DNA from the dead turkeys found it was genetically identical to viral DNA found in domestic geese that had been infected in January this year in Hungary. It appears a possible link to the Hungary outbreak came as a result of a chance find of a label in a rubbish bin at the Suffolk site. Part of a leaked memo dated February 9 from COBRA, the British government’s civil contingencies committee which tackles national crises, published in the February 13 Daily Mail, “DEFRA epidemiologists have found a label in a waste bin on the Suffolk site with a reference that indicates it is from a third party abattoir, Gallfoods in Hungary, just outside the restricted zone [i.e, the zone in which bird flu has been found] . . . One possible unconfirmed route is that the abattoir processed birds from within the restricted area.” The Bernard Mathews company has a subsidiary poultry business, the Saga plant, in Hungary. It would seem the Bernard Matthew company had initially failed to mention a possible link between its Suffolk farm and its Hungarian subsidiary. A Guardian article of February 10 stated, “For days, the company has maintained that operations in Hungary and Suffolk are entirely separate with no trade between them but yesterday [Feb 9] . . admitted there was significant trade between the plants . . that it could have imported infected turkey meat.” Whilst DEFRA had become aware of such a connection between the outbreak in Hungary and that in Suffolk it did not want the information to be publicised. The Guardian had published the information on its web site on February 8. The newspaper had been told by a source within DEFRA that a shipment of nearly 40 tonnes of poultry meat from Hungary had arrived at Horton just prior to the turkeys contracting the bird flu. The source contacted the paper with concerns that DEFRA were not making the information public. The article states, “oth state vets and officials were deeply aware that such information would take the trail away from the hypothesis of a wild bird flying in and spreading the disease, and into the realm of the poultry food trade. The document which discussed the consignment of food and how it was handled was marked ‘commercial in confidence’ The protection of Britain’s £3.4bn poultry industry appeared to be taking greater priority than the risk to human health.” The Guardian had contacted the Food Standards Agency (FSA), the official body that overseas food safety, to ask what actions they were taking to avoid the possibility of infected food going into the human food chain, only to be told by the FSA that they were unaware of the matter. The incoming Labour government of 1997 set up DEFRA and the FSA in the wake of the outbreak of “Mad Cow Disease,” or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), which to date has claimed nearly 160 human lives. The previous Tory government, after initially denying a link between Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) in cows and its human equivalent vCJD, finally accepted that such a link existed DEFRA and especially the FSA were trumpeted by the incoming Labour government as being free of the commercial pressures that had led to the cover-up of the BSE crisis. The incident at the Bernard Matthew turkey farm shows this is not the case. An interim report published by DEFRA on February 14 pointed out the proximity of Bernard Mathews’s turkey rearing sheds and its meat processing plant. There were “large numbers of gulls . . clearly attracted to the site by the presence of the processing plant and . . . the access to waste trimmings . . in bins . . . Gulls were observed . . carrying trimmings away from the processing plant and into the area containing the finishing units (turkey sheds) . . Polythene bags which had apparently contained meat products . . [had] the potential to be blown across the site . . there were several points of entry for small birds and rodents . . [and] extensive water leakage . . that could allow physical transfer of infection . . In summary, there are a number of ways that infection could have entered the shed with the clinically affected birds.” According to the Daily Mail, February 17, “It is understood the MHS (Meat Hygiene Service) warned Bernard Matthews on several occasions about leaving the processing plant waste bins open. Now the organisation is investigating prosecuting the company under the Animal By-Product Regulations 2003 for failing to do so.” The Bernard Matthews Holton turkey rearing site and processing unit is no shoestring operation. There are 22 rearing sheds with 7,000 turkeys in each shed. Nearby, separated by a chain link fence, is an abattoir, processing sheds and cold store. According to the company, bio-security is given top priority. Bernard Matthews’s company generates a £400 million a year turnover. It is the largest turkey processing company in Europe. It is still not clear how the bird flu virus entered the turkey breeding sheds at the Suffolk site. The DEFRA report of February 14 notes that “investigations will continue to be all embracing with respect to possible sources of infection and means of introduction of the virus into the premises. Further reports will be made when significant findings are revealed by our investigations.” An International Herald Tribune article of February 12 commented, “Most of the scattered bird flu outbreaks this year probably can be traced to illegal or improper trade in poultry, scientists believe.” The article went on to quote Samuel Jutzi, director of Animal Production and Health at the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome, saying, “Many of us at the outset underestimated the role of trade. The virus is behaving rather differently than last year—it’s rather enigmatic.” Speaking at a recent Royal Society of Medicine meeting in London, Professor Sir Roy Anderson, an epidemiologist at Imperial College London, warned of Britain’s lack of preparation for an outbreak of H5N1 bird flu that has managed to cross to the human population. He explained, “This is a virus that is always rapidly evolving . . It is extremely difficult to predict in which ways it will continue to evolve . . We currently live in an international jet-setting age, so the range of contacts of people from other countries is far greater than it was four generations ago. (A reference to the 1918 flu pandemic) . . . This makes it harder to control any outbreak . . . The virus will saturate very quickly in the UK, and there will be very little time to contain it.” See Also: Britain unprepared for bird flu threat [20 April 2006] EU states downplay risk as bird flu spreads toward Western Europe [10 September 2005] |
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"UCI scientists reconstruct migration of avian flu virus
The analysis shows that Guangdong – home to a large poultry industry – is the source of many H5N1 strains that have spread to other provinces and countries." Report released today traces path of H5N1 from origin in factory farms and spread through industry. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-03/uoc--usr030507.php |
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How's This...
Judge rejects bird flu argument against chicken farm
(TUESDAY MARCH 6) A group of residents from Aston Abbotts have failed in a High Court c******enge to a proposed chicken farm near Aylesbury.
They fear the farm could put them at risk if there is a bird flu outbreak. Three members of the Aston Abbotts Residents Association had sought the go-ahead to bring a full High Court c******enge to Aylesbury Vale District Council's decision to grant permission for three new buildings and a temporary mobile home at Norduck Farm, Moat Lane in the village. Arthur Dicken, Lisa Jenkins and Simon Roberts, whose properties are all served by a private road through the farm, had argued that the Council had failed to take into account the implications on them of a possible bird flu outbreak or any resulting biosecurity measures. Mr Dicken, of Norduck House, Ms Jenkins, of Norduck Barns and Mr Roberts, of Moat Lane Stud, had all asked Judge Hamilton for permission to bring a full judicial review c******enge, through which they hoped to have the planning permission quashed. However, the judge today ruled that they had failed to show that their case was sufficiently arguable or had a reasonable prospect of success. She refused to grant permission, clearing the way for farm owners Kinsale Agriculture to start work on the new egg production facilities. The scheme has been opposed all along by the trio, with the new buildings set to come within 200 metres of Mr Dicken and Ms Jenkins' properties, and impact on Mr Roberts livery business, as he, his family and his customers all regularly use a bridleway across the farm. They claimed that the Council not to consider the public concern about avian flu as a material planning consideration, even though any biosecurity measures that resulted from an outbreak could affect access to their homes. They argued that the development would harm the appearance of the area, which is designated as an Area of Attractive Landscape, and overlooks an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. They claimed it will be a blight on neighbouring properties and affect market values, and that, if poorly managed, could lead to problems of smell and groundwater contamination. They claimed that heir human rights were breached by the Council's decision. According to papers before the court, the farm is estimated to house around 20,000 chickens. http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Bird%20Flu |
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Good on them for trying. Here is a link to the story
http://www.aylesburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=789&ArticleID=2098467 This case might play out differently soon. |
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/World/The_United_States/China_is_source_of_bird_flu_virus_study_shows/RssArticleShow/articleshow/1729053.cms
Factory Farms in Guandong source of Bird Flu virus - not wild birds or backyard poultry. |
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Set up tagging system? http://*********/rfid.html www smart-tek solutions com
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new outbreak in factory farms near Hanoi
http://orange.advfn.com/news_Bird-flu-hits-chicken-farms-in-Vietnams-capital-ministry_19692397.html |
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"This virus comes into existence in farms where the cleanliness level is very low and there are chickens being bred."
http://madecenik.net/kuwaittimes/read_news.php?newsid=MTM1NDE4ODQ5OQ== |
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VIDEO
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Kparcell..... has this been posted?
Hope any doubters have a look at this One... :O
Bird Flu: A virus of our own hatching
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World WIDE ... Poultry Trade and Factory Farming
at a glance...
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Antigenic drift.
These are small,
permanent, ongoing alterations in the genetic material of a virus.
Because viruses aren’t able to repair genetic errors that take place as they reproduce,
new strains are continually replacing old ones.
Once you have a particular strain of flu, you develop antibodies to it,
but those antibodies won’t protect you from new strains.
In the same way, the flu vaccine you received last season
won’t ward off this year’s bug.
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And the question is... (Did it even ward off last years bug?)
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SO.... when we talk about
World Wide Poultry Trade & Factory Farming
We are talking
DRIFT... Excelerated.
Drift at a Billion miles an hour ... It's Unnatural
See video above.
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AnnHara ,
I watched the video . I suspect Kparcel will go bananas when I say this ,but I am still not quite convinced . It seems to me , that yes , if birds in a factory farm are infected the consequences are worse in the sense of many more bird dying suddenly . However factory farms should have a lower chance of suffering disease in the first place since their flocks are generally enclosed in doors away from wild birds , cats , rodents etc ( that is other carriers ). In contrast small farms seem to very often have their flocks out doors and therefore be very vulnerable to disease carriers. Secondly it seems to me that properly setup factory farms should have a better chance of acheiving higher hygiene and monitoring standards that small farms. If we look at places like Indonesia or Turkey human most infections seem to have occurred because people with small flocks have butchered their own birds. Something that does not happen with factory farming. However do not like factory farms at all , in particular , the apparent cruelty of their cramped , crowded nature . If it has to be done then , there should be stricter laws about the amount of space and conditions under which the animals are kept. |
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Thank you, Ann, I wasn't aware of that great video.
As the video states, the scientific evidence shows that H5N1 originates in factory farms, not backyards. We can kill all of the poultry outside of factory farms to protect factory farms and delay the start of the pandemic, or we can follow the recommendations of informed scientists and stop factory farming. |
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There has long been opposition to factory farming and the suspicion is that
much of the research is driven by the need to prove a truth rather than the need to find the truth. Guandong Province . The fact that bird flu appears to have originated in Guandong and there are factory farms in that area is not evidence. I have never been to China but I would expect to find thousands of small village flocks for every factory farm. Secondly the real danger is not so much from the virus in poultry but the virus in Mamals . There is much likelyhood of poultry and mamals mixing in small operations than in large factory farms. With the subsequent escape of the virus back in to the wild. |
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hi Ross... I think the scientists are trying to tell us that
The craming of all the poultry ...zoomin in the doo...
is not natural....very stressful.
well birds cannot escape the close proximity of ill birds.
Most shocking is the process of... drift....
being unnaturally excellerated in these "Chicken Fields"
This House of... Viral Varient Vrooming..... can't go on.
and the vile stuff.... Virus.... gets out....escapes the farm. Carried out by...rodents, people, vehicles, guano buyers,
carrion loving birds etc.
the move is on to.... restrict the transport of poultry,
poultry parts and guano, which is used for fertilizer and food for farmed fish.
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AnnHara
I have to agree about stressfull filty conditions and close proximity of large numbers of other birds being a dangerous environment . Also agree that when such a flock becomes infected there is significant potential to spread the disease outside the factory farm . I does seem to me that we should not be talking about the subjects as if all factory farms are the same. Firstly if the birds are totally enclosed there is far less possiblity of picking up infection than if they are in a free roaming factory farm ( that is outside ) . Secondly the quality of the factory farm in terms of management and conditions in the factory farm is very significant . Also I would think that Antigenic drift in mamals is far more dangerous than in poultry ( but I am not a scientist ) . Perhaps we can compromise by saying that badly designed and managed factory farms are dangerous and the better factory farms much less so. |
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Also I would think that Antigenic drift in mamals is far more dangerous
than in poultry ( but I am not a scientist ) . ..................................................................................
We share this... zoonotic .... that's why people are so PO'd that the $ comes first...
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Ross... I went to a hearing in VA on P hiesteria years ago at the Marine Institute. Grown men tearful...who made their life's work...fishing, were ill and lost their living...told their stories several of them, very powerful stuff.
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you see... it is so much more...than a hoard of chickens kept too close.
It's also the waste they produce and what is done and not done with it.
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Known to scientists as P-f-i-esteria (feast-eer-ee-ah) piscicida (Latin for "fish killer"),
the microscopic organism was demonstrating its propensity for turning rivers and estuaries into death traps for immense schools of fish.
P-f-i-e-steria's powerful nerve poison was also being blamed as the likely cause for sickening scores of fishermen, coastal residents and tourists.
P-f-i-esteria leaves fish and people with ugly lesions. Human contact can also result in memory loss, dizziness, fatigue and asthmatic problems. Too Much Manure to Endure
The good news for ****esteria and perhaps other yet-to-be discovered pathogens is this—factory farms like those in North Carolina are proliferating nationwide, churning out mountains of animal waste, largely unregulated. US rivers and streams are carrying ever-larger volumes of nutrient pollution—the biggest single source of which, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency, is livestock waste. Little surprise then that most of the nation's 127 estuaries show symptoms of nutrient overload. This past summer, the once prolific Chesapeake Bay played host to a ****esteria rampage that claimed tens of thousands of fish, closed rivers and sickened dozens of people.
What caused the outbreak? Many scientists suspect fowl play—the 600 million factory farm chickens raised around the Bay. According to the Baltimore Sun, these birds generate 658,000 tons of manure annually—"enough to lay a yard-wide, foot-high swath from Salisbury [MD] to Salt Lake City."
Another traditionally rich aquatic environment now imperiled by livestock waste and fertilizer runoff is the Gulf of Mexico. Off Louisiana, researchers are studying the infamous Dead Zone, a lifeless expanse currently the size of Connecticut. Excessive nutrients pouring into the Mississippi River from factory farms and other so-called non-point sources spawn algae blooms which strip the waters of oxygen as they decompose, with fatal consequences for many Gulf denizens. Alarmingly, the Dead Zone has been growing steadily larger throughout recent decades.
Even the nose-wrinkling gaseous emissions from factory farms can pollute waterways. That's because the ammonia gas released by manure routinely returns to earth as acid rain. In Northern Europe, acid precipitation tied to ammonia emissions from hog farms is the agricultural community's top environmental concern. Pandora's FeedlotOf Lagoons, Leaks and Loopholes While diversified farmers see manure as a resource, for factory farm operators it's a waste disposal nightmare. Factory farms have two principal ways to handle waste: store it in massive earthen pits called lagoons until it decomposes; or spread it onto fields. Lagoons, some covering 12 acres, are prone both to leaking and breaking. In 1995, spills in North Carolina discharged more than 40 million gallons of unmentionables into state waterways, about double the amount of oil lost by the Exxon Valdez. Meanwhile in Missouri, spills left more fish belly-up "than had been killed in the previous ten years by ALL agricultural operations," says Ken Midkiff, Director of the Missouri Chapter of the Sierra Club.
Even when their banks hold, roughly half of North Carolina's lagoons built before 1993 (which is most of them) are leaking, say researchers at NCSU. A 1995 survey revealed that hundreds of lagoons were badly eroded and in danger of leaking or collapsing, and that 122 operators were deliberately and illegally dumping manure into North Carolina's waters.
What about field spraying? Many areas (including three entire European countries—the Netherlands, France and Belgium) already produce more waste than available land can absorb. This limitation apparently doesn't deter farm operators. St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Bill Lambrecht found that with a million tons of poultry manure piling up each year in Missouri, much of it gets spread on fields that don't need it, a practice that "looks suspiciously like dumping."
All of which spells trouble for drinking water. A test of wells in eastern North Carolina found that almost 10 percent were so contaminated with hog waste that the water was unsafe to drink. In 1996, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) found that three Indiana women who miscarried a total of six times within two years may have been sickened by well water polluted by a neighboring hog farm.
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AnnHara
When I said this.... Also I would think that Antigenic drift in mamals is far more dangerous than in poultry ( but I am not a scientist ) . I meant poultry and pigs etc together in small holdings. Throughout this discussion I have been talking about poultry factory farms rather than piggeries , which I regarded as a seperate issue . I am surprised to read your stories of waste disposal , I had always thought that the waste from poultry farms was a valuable resource, for which there would be a ready market. Dumping the stuff in waterways is just unforgiveable . Is it actually dumping or run-off from fields driven by heavy rains ? |
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I dont agree - Influenza pandemics go back in history long before factory farms
Just having domestic poultry is all thts needed for a pandemic
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There is a company in Australia with a distributor in USA
that manufactures a bulk product to perform water remediation. It removes phosphorous from industrial and natural waterways ( rivers , lakes etc ). You can find out more at ....http://www.phoslock.com.au ( ps. I own a small amount of shares in this company , so rather than do a Gnfin I will say no more about them , except to say that they have a dubious cashflow position and would be a risky investment ) . |
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Not to mention whats in their feed ..... con't follow link
Arsenic's use in chicken feed troubles health advocatesBy Tom Pelton
Sun reporter
Originally published March 10, 2007
POCOMOKE CITY // Carole Morison steps into a vast metal building where 27,200 chicks cluster in darkness around feeding machines. Pipes pump a gray, gravelly mush into round steel bowls. Along with the corn, fat and protein being snapped up by the young birds is Roxarsone - a feed additive made from arsenic. Perdue Farms requires Morison to feed it to her chickens to fatten them and fight parasites. |
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Of course anyone can disagree and some do here, but I still have to go with the science: all the evidence supports the theory that bird flu originates among birds in factory farms and spreads from there to backyard poultry (See UN, WHO, Lancet, Worldwatch, Humane Society, etc).
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