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Penham
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I am very interested in learning about dehydrating foods, but I know nothing about it. I know there has to be some experts here. If you are starting from scratch. Thanks for any information you can post about this!
What is the best type of dehydrator to buy?
What types of foods can be dehydrated? Do some foods dehydrate better than others?
How long does the process take?
How do you store the food after you dehydrate it?
How long does dehydrated food last?
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My husband makes jerky(beef or venison) all the time. He got this method from Alton Brown on the food network - no food dehydrator needed.
Simply slice your meat of choice in thin strips, then leave it overnight in marinade of your choice- he uses a spicy teryaki most often. To make a dehydrator - buy 4 or 5 of the filters you use for your heat pump - the ones that look like an accordian with a cardboard frame. Stack the filters 4 or 5 high, and put the whole thing on top of one of those old fashioned box fans. Use bungee cords to attach them to the fan, and sit it upright. Turn the fan on and leave for about 24 hours. This makes the best jerky ever! You can also dry fruit, etc this way, but we have not tried it yet. So Alton says don't spend money on dehydrators! |
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American Harvest makes the ones that I like. I have two. One of them has a temperature control and that is the one I prefer by far. The one without it gets too hot and cooks the food first. I don't want that. All you want is to take most of the moisture out.
I love to dehydrate tomatos. I get a big pot of boiling water really going. Then I drop in a tomato (jsut one because I want that water to stay boiling) and I let that tomato sit in the water about thirty seconds and then working very quickly I transfer the tomato to icy cold water to stop the cooking. In a few minutes the skin will jus slide off. I then slice the tomato about a 1/4 " thick and dry them out. They last so long in a vacuum sealer bag. I remember when tomatos were nearly $4 a pound a year or so ago. I buy them in summer now at $1 to $1.5 a pound and dehydrate, dehydrate, dehydrate.
Onions. So easy. You peel, slice and dry. No pretreatment necessary. Store very, very airtight because they just love to soak up moisture in the air if you don't. Do in well ventilated area.
Bananas. So easy. No pretreatment necessary. Slice 1/4 inch thick and dry.
I haven't tried broccoli and I probably won't. I've heard it doesn't dehydrate so nicely.
I've had good luck with carrots but you should blanch them before putting them on the dryer. Blanching stops some sort of chemical process that I don't understand. Maybe someone here can explain it.
Strawberries are so easy.
I've also done canned pears. They take forever to dry. Fresh would dry faster.
I've done cauliflower. Sure turns out ugly but then cauliflower is ugly to start with isn't it?
If you are going to do this I recommend buying a vacuum sealer that seals both bags and cannisters. Also a good dehydrator with a temp dial on it.
I just ordered some cannisters a month ago. They are fantastic. Let me go find the link for you. Be right back.
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I really enjoy dehydrating. I have two electric dehydrators, but my husband built a twelve shelf solar dehydrator which is my favorite. It retains the color better and the vegetables rehydrate much nicer. We found plans on the internet for the solar dehydrator. I blanch all my vegetables first. Blanching neutralizes bacteria and enzymes. After I dehydrate I store either in a canning jar or in a vacuum sealed bag. I have really had good luck with everything but potatoes.
I have dehydrated tomatoes, onions, peppers, carrots, cabbage, rhubarb, corn and tons of herbs. I do not blanch herbs, just wash them and put them in the dehydrator. Corn tends to darken if left too long in the dehydatror.
During the summer, I can dehydrate twelve shelves in the dehydrator in less than two days. If we ever have to face a situation without electricity, I'll still be able to save the garden vegetables.
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Thanks for all the great information!
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Penham may I suggest Mary Bell's dehydrating book? Its' my bible so to speak. Its' a must have for dehydrating.She has a web site called The Dry Store. Its chock full of advice recipes etc.
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How long does dehydrated bananas, onions, ect,last if stored in food saver bags? I am thinking about trying the fan / heat filter method.
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I am so excited. My local market is finally, finally, having a good sale on zuchini, crook-neck squash and vidalia onions. I love to dehydrate those things. They also have a fantastic sale on yellow, orange and red peppers. Nothing on green bell peppers though. Those peppers haven't been under a $1 a pound in over a year. A couple of years ago I could get three to four a $1.
Has anyone else noticed the priced increased in dehydrators?
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Coyote may I suggest that you store your dehydrated foods in jars using the jar sealer?Also a Pump n'Seal is good too.I have both and use both too frequently.In fact a Pump n' Seal will be a must if the power goes out when pan flu hits
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Zucchini chips. Success. Sliced 1/8" thick, blanched, sprinkled with garlic salt and black pepper and they are too good for words. Pandemic or no pandemic I will never buy potato chips again. You just gotta do these.
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Hi Anon and girl with a curl. Yes i have a food saver. What is the shlf life for dehydrated fruit and veges?
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Coyote,
Depending on the amount of water you get out of the food and the properly storing the food they can last one to three years I think.
Alright, folks. I have dehydrated about ten pounds of zuccchini now and I'd like to share my observations.
First off, it is easy. I read that some people elect not to blanch the zucchini slices but I chose to do so. This is what I did.
Sliced zucchini into 1/4 inch thick rounds. Do not peel. Boiled water and when it was really boiling I added zucchini rounds. When it returned to a boil I waited two minutes before emersing the zucchini in icy water to stop the cooking process. Drain and put in dehydrator in single layers. Temp was set at 135. Twelve dog gone hours later they were brittle. Oh, I might add that I sprinkled the zucchini with garlic salt and black pepper.
Next batch I did I thought to myself I would make the rounds thinner and reduce the drying time. Worked like a charm except I made them so thin that when it was time to take off the dehydrator many just sort of stuck to it or crumbled before I could get them off the rack. They were so thin it was like looking at thin paper surrounded in green. I wasn't pleased but if one planned on grinding the dried zucchini and using as a spice this is the way to go. I prefer mine with a bit more substance so .....
Next batch I sliced them 1/8 inch thick. Took eight hours on the dehydrator and I was satisified with the results. They came off the rack easily and without disintegrating in my hands.
So, if anyone wants to try their hands at zucchini I hope this helps.
Now I have enough to vacuum seal in some bags but I always plan on keeping at least my three quart vacuum sealable cannister full and in the frig. My three quart cannister is halfway full and that would have been ten pounds.
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I also dehydrate tomatoes. I feel like I have done enough of those to guide anyone with questions. Tomatoes do not have to be pre-treated. Some people just wash and slice and dehydrate without taking the skin off. I tried that but when I rehydrated some the skins were so tough. I'm not a very picky eater but gosh golly they were tough. I now take the skins off. It is easy to remove the skins. Just get a big pot of boiling water. I drop in two tomatoes in my pot and when the water comes back to a boil I count out 30 seconds and oh so quickly remove the tomatoes from the boiling water with a slotted spoon and emerse in icy water. Once I let the tomatoes cook for 40 seconds and found that not only did the skins come off but the tomato had actually begun to cook. You don't want that so work fast with these. Once it has cooled the skins slide right off. Some skins come off more easily than others. For instance, the roma tomatoes are a bit harder to get the skins off of than regular old vine ripened tomatoes but not ridiculously so. Get which ever you like. I can tell when my tomatoes are done. I take one slice off the dehydrator when it is still somewhat pliable and let it air cool a couple of minutes. Then I try to break it in half. If it is crisp and breaks in my hands it is done. If it tears, bends or won't snap, I put it back on for a while. I slice my tomatoes before putting on the dehydrator about a 1/4 inch thick. Much thinner than that and they seem to stick to the dehydrator or fall apart in my hands. My tomatoes take about 8 to 10 hours to dry depending on how dry the air is in the room.
I found that if I sprinkled them with garlic salt and pepper while they are dehydrating that I like to eat the dried rounds as a snack. No need to rehydrate.
Hope this helps. Anyone wanna hear about dehydrating onions?
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Yes Please! You are good. Thankyou For your help!!!
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I suppose any good onion will do.......peel the outer layer, slice 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick. No need to pretreat. Just put in single layer in your dehydrator. 135 degrees until crisp. Mine turn slightly brown like they got toasted. Pretty. Length of time depends on humidity in the air to a large extent. It is humid here today and those little devils have been on the dehydrator 9 hours already. Another hour I think they will be done. Just waiting til they are crisp. I take a few pieces off, let them air cool a minute or so and if it snaps into I know it is ready. If it is hard as a rock.....well....that might have been on too long. Crisp. That is what you want. Of all the foods I have dehydrated it seems to me that onions suck up moisture in the air faster than any other veggie. As soon as they come off that dehydrator you need to package them in something air tight and refrigerate. I don't know why yet, but from what else I have read everyone seems to think dehydrated onions keep best if refrigerated so I have always done that. Besides, dehydrated foods last a long time but if frozen or refrigerated they last a really long time. No tellin' how long. I love having dehydrated onions on hand. They rehydrate nicely. Taste the same if you ask me. They really are a wonderful convenience. Because I use mine on a regular basis, I store mine in a vacuum seal cannister. Everytime I open it I reseal it and put back in the frig.
They smell wonderful dehydrating, too, but it can be a bit strong. You might want to do this one outside or right next to an open window.
Some people make their own onion flakes or onion salt. I haven't tried that. Couldn't be any harder than chopping dried onions in the blender. You would be able to put more onions in a smaller space than if they were left sliced.
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I have been so inspired by what people have wrote on dehydrating food that I decided to buy a dehydrator, which arrived this morning,only to discover when I had unpacked it that the operating instructions are missing. [A stiff letter to manufactures has now been sent, but I know it is going to take a few weeks before instructions arrive].
I have already been on the internet for recipes and how to prepare fruit and veg, and I have now got 3 trays of musharooms drying. So now I am hoping that the more experienced people can give me some advise on the do's and dont's. Can I do more than one type of vegetable at a time, or come to that more than one type of fruit at a time. |
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You may want to check out MREfoods.com. They now carry a lot of Freeze Dried Foods along with a pretty good selection of MREs (Meals Ready to Eat).
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The Ohio State University ExtensionHuman Nutrition1787 Neil Avenue, Columbus, OH 43212Drying FoodsHYG-5347-97Drying is the oldest method of preserving food. Through- out history, the sun, the wind, and a smokey fire were used to remove water from fruits, meats, grains, and herbs. By definition, food dehydration is the process of removing water from food by circulating hot air through it, which prohibits the growth of enzymes and bacteria. Benefits of Dried FoodDried foods are tasty, nutritious, lightweight, easy-to-prepare, and easy-to-store and use. The energy input is less than what is needed to freeze or can, and the storage space is minimal compared with that needed for canning jars and freezer containers. The nutritional value of food is only minimally affected by drying. Vitamin A is retained during drying; however, because vitamin A is light sensitive, food containing it should be stored in dark places. Yellow and dark green vegetables, such as peppers, carrots, winter squash, and sweet potatoes, have high vitamin A content. Vitamin C is destroyed by exposure to heat, although pretreating foods with lemon, orange, or pineapple juice increases vitamin C content. Dried foods are high in fiber and carbohydrates and low in fat, making them healthy food choices. Dried foods that are not completely dried are susceptible to mold. Microorganisms are effectively killed when the internal temperature of food reaches 145 degrees Farenheit (F). Equipment Needed for DryingTo be certain of the final quality and consistent drying of foods, a dehydrator is recommended, especially with unpredictable Ohio weather. Sharp knives and a food processor or blender will also make the drying task easier. Many guidelines call for blanching, steaming, or pretreating foods. Equipment for these processes include a deep kettle with a lid and a wire basket, a colander, or an open mesh cloth bag to hold produce. A non-metal bowl is best for pretreating fruits and vegetables to prevent discoloring. Preparing Food for DryingSelect ripe fruit for drying. Bruised fruit can be used if you trim away any bruised spots. Do not use molding food for drying. Slicing foods allows the dry air to circulate and dry the surface area of the food first. Cut foods into 1/8-inch to 1/2-inch slices. The higher the water content, the larger you should make the slice size. Small slices of high-moisture foods, such as watermelon, would disappear when all the moisture has evaporated. Peel fruits and vegetables, including bananas, melons, winter squash, and other foods. PretreatmentPretreatments are techniques used to make quality products. Pretreatments include dipping, blanching, cooking, or candying. Dipping prevents oxidation or color changes in fruits and vegetables. Dip fruits in pineapple or orange juice. Dip vegetables in diluted bottled lemon juice (dilute 1/4 cup of lemon juice in 2 cups water, then dip vegetables and some fruits for 2 to 3 minutes). Commercial fresh fruit stabilizers can also be used (dilute 1/2 Tablespoon of stabilizer in 2 cups water). Sodium sulfite is another commercial product for pretreating foods. To make a homemade stabilizer, mix 1 Tablespoon of salt or vinegar with 8 cups of water or dissolve one 500 mg tablet of vitamin C per 1 cup of water. Blanching is recommended for asparagus, green beans, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and peas. Blanch for a very short period to cause checking of skins. Making Fruit LeathersLeathers from Fresh FruitSelect ripe or slightly overripe fruit. Wash fresh fruit or berries in cool water. Remove peel, seeds, and stem. Cut fruit into chunks. Use 2 cups of fruit for each 13-inch by 15-inch fruit leather. Purse fruit until smooth. Add 2 teaspoons of lemon juice or 1/8 teaspoon ascorbic acid (375 mg.) for each 2 cups of light-colored fruit to prevent darkening. If you choose to sweeten the leather, add corn syrup, honey, or sugar. Corn syrup or honey is best for longer storage because they do not crystallize. Sugar is fine for immediate use or short storage. Use 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 cups sugar, corn syrup, or honey for each 2 cups of fruit. Saccharin-based sweeteners could also be used to reduce tartness without adding calories. Aspartame sweeteners may lose sweetness during drying. Leathers from Canned or Frozen FruitHome-preserved or store-bought canned or frozen fruit may also be used to make leathers. Drain fruit and save liquid. Use 1 pint of fruit for each 13-inch by 15-inch leather. Purse fruit until smooth--if too thick, add liquid. Add 2 teaspoons of lemon juice or 1/8 teaspoon ascorbic acid (375 mg.) for each 2 cups of light-colored fruit to prevent darkening. Applesauce can be dried alone or added to any fresh fruit purse as an extender. It decreases tartness and makes the leather smoother and more pliable. Preparing the TraysFor drying in the oven, a 13-inch by 15-inch cookie pan with edges works well. Line pan with plastic wrap, being careful to smooth out wrinkles. Do not use waxed paper or aluminum foil. To dry in a dehydrator, purchase specially designed plastic sheets or line plastic trays with plastic wrap. Pouring the LeatherFruit leathers can be poured into a single large sheet (13-inch by 15-inch) or into several smaller sizes pieces. Spread puree evenly, about 1/8-inch thick, onto drying tray. Avoid pouring purse too close to the edge of the cookie sheet. The larger fruit leathers take longer to dry. Approximate drying times are 6 to 8 hours in a dehydrator, up to 18 hours in an oven, and 1 to 2 days in the sun. Drying the LeatherDry fruit leathers at l40 degrees F. Leather dries from the outside edge toward the center. Test for dryness by touching center of leather; no indention should be evident. While warm, peel leather from plastic and roll. Then, allow the leather to cool and rewrap the roll in plastic. Chances are the fruit leather won't last long enough for storage. If it does, it will keep up to 1 month at room temperature. For storage up to 1 year, place tightly wrapped rolls in the freezer. Adapted from Ohio State University Extension, All About Food Drying, 1974. Prepared by
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So I have been doing lots and lots of dehydrating, right. I have an American Harvest dehydrator with temperature control and four racks. I decided to order more racks from Target and got eight more yesterday. The manufacturer of my dehydrator says I can use up to twelve trays at a time. Well.......I'm not so sure about that but then again I didn't rotate the trays. Some tomatos were done and others still WET. I'll dry more today but this time I have the time to rotate. I hope that makes a difference because it would be so nice to use twelve trays instead of just four or five. Anyone have experience with using more trays?
Secondly, I tried my hand at drying celery. I like to make fried rice and I like celery in mine. Oh my stars. It dehydrates down to nothing. That is great for storage space but gosh how tiny and they drop right through the racks. I need to find some screening material I can use. Has anyone here ever used any type of screening material in their hydrator?
I also tried my hand with broccoli. Easy to do. I'm going to rehydrate a piece of it though because it looks to me like it might just fall apart and that will help me determine how I am going to use it. I'll let y'all know.
Update Septemer 23rd: The broccoli I will continue to do but I don't like the stalks. I'll do just the heads and I was wrong. They don't fall apart. They look and feel like little hard trees when dried.
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I'd like to tell you guys about my try at dehydrating mushrooms. They turned out GREAT. I have read a lot about how to do them. Sometimes I read that you want to wash them. You don't. Sometimes I have read that you want to soak them as a pretreatment. I don't think so. No need to wash. Best not to as they absorb a lot of water and will take longer to dry out. That extra moisture and heat make a bad place for mushrooms. They can get ruined and make you sick. This is what I did.
1. brush them off
2. cut off the woody stalk part (used with the steak I had last night)
3. Sliced the mushrooms 1/4 inch thick. No thicker.
4. Put them in a single row on my dehydrator rack making sure they don't touch or overlap.
5. Dried 8 hours at 95 degrees.
You want to dry them so they are crisp or brittle.
PERFECTION.
I tried also doing a batch where I cut the mushrooms into 1/8 inch thick slices. They dried about two hours faster but nearly fell apart.
I live in a very, very dry climate so if you live in a humid climate it will take longer to dry them. I think then I would probably try to cut them somewhere between 1/8 of an inch thick and a 1/4 inch thick or decide that I don't mind that they crumble a bit more when only an 1/8 inch thick.
I'm just tickled pink with how these turned out.
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pineapple or banana chips, Mmmmmmmmm i know these won't last long.
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Learning how to can would be great for post-pandemic skills once resources like the stores no longer exist. Remember, we need to plan for after the pandemic just as much the pandemic itself.
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I am not a prophet
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