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Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

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    Posted: September 29 2006 at 6:47am
Anyone have any predictions regarding the effects on the poultry market once H5 HPAI is discovered in U.S. birds?   Any guesses?
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i'm not sure if the prices of chickens will be higher or lower.
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I have to believe that poultry sales will mirror what has happened elsewhere. . .a rapid decline.  What follows will depend on the number and severity of subsequent outbreaks.  My mother-in-law who lives in France has told us that many people there still aren't eating poultry and beef consumption has stayed low since the emergence of mad cow disease.
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Ynot2K.  That's my guess as well.  The only difference here is that the beef market might do good.  Unless, the entire market panics, in which case, look out..   
 
 
 
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Yes, Albert, the beef market would probably improve ie: higher prices.  I bet we would hear of people throwing out chicken they had purchased prior to BF arriving.  Heck, at some point we may have to make hard choices about food supply.  Mad Cow, Bird Flu, The Pig disease plus the fact that pigs are succeptible to BF.

I have a wide contrarian streak, when BF hits North America and prices drop I'll probablly go stock up at rock bottom prices and then can as much as possible. 
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I will become a gopher rancher.Or maybe  an opossum rancher.Those things are tough.Dont laugh to hard it might just happen.Lol
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If the poultry market begins to collapse, I would personally stay clear of the entire stock market for a while.  Although if anyone is feeling the greed bug, you could always short Foster Farms down to around .25 cents.  LOL
 
My personal opinion would be to stay clear of the entire market if the poultry market begins to go. 
 
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if the chicken is found to be even questionable to human health in the USA, consumed or handled. I think the Feds would have to pull it like they do with other products that have possed health issues. They could'nt just say Oh keep buying the stuff it can only kill you if you handle it wrong.
The side effects would be everywhere. From home town grocery stores and resturants, to the beef farmers that suddenly cant meet the demand of a growing market. Alot of the demand can be redirected but not all of it. I beleave a sudden stop of any of the big three meat groups would hit our markets like a sledge hammer. One market would halt and the price of the others would adjust to demand. Everyone would be financialy effected since our chain of dependancey is very balanced in a free market.  I could go on and on with this topic, but you get my opinion on it anyway. Thanks Albert for anouther good topic. I do beleave we will see this prior to any wide spread waves of h2h BF in the USA. If the countries that are dealing with this now did the same we might have a global chance to extend the time line of a pandemic. Why they are still eating chicken in some of the countries is simply becouse chicken is that important in their available and affordable food choices and other countries have not stepped up with food assistance to help them off set that dependence. JMO. Thanks
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I re-read my post and realized it was not as clear as it could of been.  My intent was to state that beef prices in the stores would go up as consumers switched from chicken to beef.  Not that the "stock market" would go up. 
 
I agree with Albert regarding the stock market.  "Paper Wealth" may take a huge hit.
 
My wife and I have goats (milk and meat) and rabbits to raise for meat.  So far neither species has been reported as affected by anything  of an endemic nature.  If anybody knows anything differently please post it.
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Suit seeks grilled chicken warning ,

A Washington group filed suit against seven national restaurant chains, saying their California stores must warn that their grilled chicken has carcinogens.
The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a non-profit preventive medicine and research group, said Thursday it filed the suit in California Superior Court in Los Angeles against the chains, claiming they violated the state's requirement that businesses post a warning if they expose patrons to carcinogens. The group wants such a warning included on the restaurants' menus.

The group said grilled chicken sold by the chains contains "PhIP," a carcinogenic compound included on California's list of cancer-causing substances. The group said it sent chicken samples to a lab for testing and they were found to contain the carcinogen.

The suit named restaurant parent companies of McDonald's, Burger King, T.G.I. Friday's, Applebee's, Chick-fil-A, Chili's and Outback Steakhouse.

Copyright 2006 by United Press International
 
             
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Fish (cod) in my area has already gone from $5 a pound to $7.
A storm is coming !
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If they are smart they will have a massive campaign advertising ready cooked chicken... all done for the busy family.  I have even seen chicken soup and pickled eggs...boiled eggs in a bag, never saw that before.
 
 
People won't want to handle it at home. 
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The group said grilled chicken sold by the chains contains "PhIP," a carcinogenic compound included on California's list of cancer-causing substances. The group said it sent chicken samples to a lab for testing and they were found to contain the carcinogen.
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This is getting off topic, I know, but recently it was reported that the Indian Government suspended the sale of Pepsi when it was found to contain 20x the acceptable level of pesticides.  Pepsi's response was something like 'what do you expect, groundwater world wide is contaminated".
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