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    Posted: April 02 2021 at 2:23am

The Guardian: Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/01/almost-third-of-uk-covid-hospital-patients-readmitted-within-four-months

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I think you posted the details elsewhere, but...

Quote After an average follow-up time of 140 days, nearly a third of the Covid patients who had been discharged from hospital had been readmitted and about one in eight had died, rates considerably higher than seen in the control group.

12.5% of discharged patients dying within 4 months is a huge amount.   From what I can gather, since it is more than 28 days since they contacted covid19 this is not counted as a covid-death.  


I wonder what the rates will be 6 months to a year after discharge.

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This puts a skew in the stats of those who think that Covid is exaggerated.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2021 at 3:35pm

Originally posted by ViQueen24 ViQueen24 wrote:

This puts a skew in the stats of those who think that Covid is exaggerated.

YEP......

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So for every one person who has died from covid19, 8 people have experienced 'long-covid'.  


This is huge.  The numbers affected are huge, and this puts a burden on the health and social services needing to look after so many people.


The other figure of 13.7% of people who had covid experiencing 'long-covid' is of great concern.  That too is a very high figure.

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......... 'and covid may yet have more surprises in store for us.  

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Any predictions Techno?

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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

Any predictions Techno?

I have,

"In the next 12months we will see the dead rise and start eating all those not vaccinated"......tee hee...

That might get the the antivacciners motivated....lol 

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No specific predictions, except this damned bug becoming endemic - WHICH WAS AVOIDABLE.  Sorry, I could list lots of things it could do.  But I don't know which ones it will pick, or even if it will excede my list. (Don't laugh!) I actually have a crystal ball.  But predicting that is way beyond me.  No one knows the full gamut of permutations it could go through.  I can only see a small number of the most  likely senarios.  I confess I don't like most of those much.  Top of that list for probability is an ensuing, unending race between new vaccine variants and new viral variants. But there could be so much more.


That is the thing with novel viruses, we don't know what they will do.  That is why it is so vital that emerging viruses are eliminated and why I am so bitterly dissapointed with our governments (not yours, you lucky dog. KiwiMum!) for failing us in our hour of need.  I think I can predict governmental idiocy allowing things to get worse again over in this hemisphere.  Based on past performance, that is odds-on.


I relate to ViQueen's sense of 'impending doom' but that could just be me.  A slate wiper or a full season of "The Walking Dead" is rather unlikely, but who knows?  Not me.

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Was it Edwin that talked about the "slow burn" theory of this virus?  The one that just plods along and shape-shifts gradually and resolutely while we keep underestimating it?  The one that keeps on and destroys the economies we sacrificed lives to save?

It's one possibility that, if I let it, could keep me up nights.  Thank God I can blame menopause and a noisy cat.

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I predict a booster shot every 6/12 months.....

And "slow burn" was Jacksdad's...... Who I guess Is lurking.....

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Yes, you're right, Carbon, I was just coming back to correct that.  You're just too fast for me, lol.  Jacksdad, and I fear he was right...

When I'm feeling optimistic, I say booster shots, continued use of masks, distancing, contact tracing, working from home, and rolling shutdowns for the foreseeable future.  When I'm feeling pessimistic, the slow burn destruction of life as we knew it I mentioned up thread.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Thanks for the laugh about the Walking Dead, Carbon!  The great George Romero made movies about that right here in Da Burgh!

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Thanks for give the credit for "slow burn" to where it belongs  

Slow-burn is right as  I am sure that the effects of this pandemic will last beyond  my life time.  


One prediction is that I am thinking that life-expectancy rates will fall and that elderly people will continue to be badly hit.  There was a lot said about protecting this group but in practice measures were put into place very late.   It will also continue to hit the poor more than the rich (because it loves crowded areas to spread in).



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Dawn of the dead.....1st zombie movie I  watched

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Yep, slow burn is the #1 probability with irregular variations in the virus's RNA.

I can't say I'm kept up nights, but this nasty choice is almost a certainty.  My predictions fail where the as yet unseen viral variants change the risks and harms it brings along with it.

We all (except Cobber) seem to be on the same general page here.  Covid is here to stay. Vaccines will be an annual, or biannual thing.  It will occasionally spring new and nasty surprises upon us and predicted human lifespans will be reduced by a couple of years because of it.  

Thanks, Boris, Jaio, Jin Ping, Donald, Valadimir et al!


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I think if the worst-case scenario happens, we all unfortunately will be up nights, especially those of us with mortgages and no jobs.

The original Night Of The Living Dead is still my fave, Carbon.  Made on a shoestring by ten friends including Romero, shot locally, with several of those ten serving as actors, and featuring Bill "Chilly Billy" Cardille, the host of our local NBC affiliate's Chiller Theater.  A real hometown film, and one we're proud of here.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H91BxkBXttE

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