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    Posted: January 26 2022 at 7:54pm

'Just wear a mask and don't tell anyone': Workplaces are filling up with sick employees

Maria Bernal, an employee at a Jack in the Box in Folsom, Calif., couldn’t read the orders popping up on her screen. Her vision was blurry, her hands shook from chills and her head felt heavy.

A pharmacist told her she probably had COVID-19. When she told her boss, the manager told Bernal to keep working.

“Don’t worry, everyone has it, you can still work. Just wear a mask and don’t tell anyone,” the manager said, according to a Jan. 14 complaint Bernal filed with Sacramento County’s public health department.

As the Omicron variant knocked out swaths of the labor force, people in a variety of jobs — fast-food workers, grocery clerks, teachers — say they have been under immense pressure to report to work while feeling sick or having tested positive with the virus.

Bernal, the Jack in the Box employee, said she does not know what the chain's protocols and sick-leave benefits are for workers who contract the virus, as no manager at the company has given her this information.

The complaint Bernal filed with Sacramento County’s public health department alongside three of her co-workers at the Folsom Jack in the Box alleges restaurant management dissuaded workers from quarantining, encouraged them to cover up or not disclose their symptoms to their co-workers and failed to take additional safety precautions.

The complaint says the restaurant has allowed several staff members with COVID-like symptoms to continue working without wearing masks, including the store manager. About a third of workers at the Folsom location have been working with COVID-like symptoms or were home sick with a confirmed COVID case in the first two weeks of January, the complaint says.

Jack in the Box did not respond to requests for comment.

Crystal Orozco, another Jack in the Box worker in Folsom, said in the complaint her manager asked to see a doctor's note after Orozco texted the manager reporting she was sick with a fever and a cough, and was having trouble finding a COVID test.

In California, officials took a further step to battle shortages of healthcare workers as intensive care units filled up with COVID-19 patients. A policy change allows healthcare workers who have tested positive for the coronavirus but don't have any symptoms to return to work immediately. And at facilities with the most severe staffing shortages, symptomatic staff are allowed to work with COVID patients.

A child-care provider at a facility in Las Vegas was told to come to work even after reporting to her boss she had been exposed to the virus and wasn't feeling well, according to screenshots of text messages reviewed by The Times. The facility was short-staffed, and its director believed the worker, who is vaccinated, was well-protected.

The worker got a PCR test and went to work. After her shift, she was able to find a rapid test. The result was positive.

When she returned to work a few days later, the message from management was to not talk about what happened. “They said, ‘We didn’t let anyone know about your situation. You’re fine now, you can just work.'"

A child-care provider at a facility in Las Vegas was told to come to work even after reporting to her boss she had been exposed to the virus and wasn't feeling well, according to screenshots of text messages reviewed by The Times. The facility was short-staffed, and its director believed the worker, who is vaccinated, was well-protected.

The worker got a PCR test and went to work. After her shift, she was able to find a rapid test. The result was positive.

When she returned to work a few days later, the message from management was to not talk about what happened. “They said, ‘We didn’t let anyone know about your situation. You’re fine now, you can just work.'"

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I suspect there's a lot of this happening. It's not right on any level, no person should have to work when they are sick and it's bloody irresponsible for anyone to work in any environment when they have a contagious disease, but as a business owner myself, I can see why businesses are trying to force people to come to work regardless. It's not something I would ever do myself, but then I don't own a retail business, but I know a lot of other business owners who are staring down the barrel of gun right now, and years of hard work may well go to the wall if their employees don't turn up for work. Business loans still have to be serviced, and rent paid. It's a nightmare scenario for any small to medium sized business. 

Already here we've seen well established hospitality businesses fold because they were the first businesses to be affected by our vaccine passport system. Everyday there are reports of well known eateries going bust. As Covid becomes entrenched in NZ we'll see businesses in all sectors fail simply because without the staff you can't run a business. It's a terrible situation.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WitchMisspelled Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2022 at 8:45am

KiwiMum, it's a very American mentality that people are expected to go to work even when sick and infectious. It's not like that anywhere else in the world. Maddening but it's true.

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I also remember hearing that many Americans don't dare take their holiday time owed to them, for fear that they won't come back to a job if they take it. What a terrible situation to be. Little or no job security.

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Right now it doesn't matter if you're sick or not... If others are sick. They still make you go to school and study. They tried to force my daughter to go to college where a lot of sick people go to school. We gave it up and now study at home because it's much safer that way. We found college essay writing service which helps her with her homework and I am very happy with the results.

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so many weird ideas concerning the united states...people going to work when sick is usually a personal choice...either the person isnt getiing paid when sick or he or she feels a responsibility to not let others down by not being there.  for example if you have a small construction business or similar its difficult to not do a scheduled job....although all through the worst of the covid pandemic most of the outdoor or construction workers i talked to said that they didnt get covid and werent worried about it....the biggest mistake other countries can make is underestimating the people of the us...we are a country based on geography....go 60 miles outside any major city and you are in a world still tied to the older values and i dont mean racism or white supremacy...in fact i joke that finding a white supremist is harder than finding bigfoot....dont believe much of what you read  in the us media...we dont....lmao

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I think the US sounds an amazing place. I envy the American people for so many of the things they can do / buy / get. One of my sisters is now an American citizen and has lived there over 20 years. We have the same issues here with people going into work sick, mainly due to terrible sick pay conditions and so many people living on the bread line, they simply can't afford to take a sick day on no pay (you get 10 sick days only a year). 

I've only ever changed planes in the US but if I ever win Lotto then I'll go on a huge shopping spree there and send home a shipping container of fantastic stuff that I just can't get here. Look out Lehman's homeware store - you'll be my first port of call!!

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hope you win that lottery!  btw  if you want to get closer to what is happening in the us rather than propaganda get a social media account on gab...for the right....and twitter for the left....check the biography of media darlings on wikipedia for bias....and if available read the comments on any article that catches your interest...if available...lol....and stay safe!

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Right now it doesn't matter if you're sick or not... If others are sick. They still make you go to school and study.

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Where I work if you have Covid they pay you to stay home. After 5 days you are supposed to take another Covid test, if it's negative, you come back to work. If it's positive they pay you for another 5 days until you test again. You cannot return until you have a negative test. 

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