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    Posted: September 14 2022 at 8:31am

DJ,

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/armenia-has-just-invoked-article-4-collective-self-defense-of-ctso-treaty-the-world-now-has-second-war-front[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/armenia-has-just-invoked-article-4-collective-self-defense-of-ctso-treaty-the-world-now-has-second-war-front ;

Wednesday morning, the country of Armenia invoked Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CTSO) which calls for all member countries to come to the military defense of Armenia as neighboring Azerbaijan commences military attacks against Armenia.  The world now has a SECOND war front, after the ongoing Ukraine front.

If one of the Member States suffers aggression (armed attack menacing to safety, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty), it will be considered by the Member States as aggression (armed attack menacing to safety, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty) against all the Member States of this Treaty.   Article 4 of the CTSO is akin to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty.

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GEORGIA REFERENDUM ON WAR WITH RUSSIA!

Adding to the troubles, the country of Georgia is holding an actual public referendum on whether or not Georgia should re-open its war with Russia!

The leadership of Georgia can organize a nationwide referendum and ask the question: do the Georgians want a war with Russia.

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Hal Turner Analysis and Editorial Opinion

All of this is the underhanded work of the collective West: in particular, the European Union and the United States/NATO.   Turkey backs Azerbaijan. So does Israel.  Turkey is a NATO member.  Israel being a welfare client of the United States, has to do what the US tells it or they lose their $3 Billion+ a year in free U.S. money and their little country, that can't even sustain itself, fails.  So The trouble with Azerbaijan and Armenia is a direct result of Turkey and Israel doing what NATO and the USA instruct them to do.

Through Turkey and Israel, Azerbaijan got told to re-commence war attacks against Armenia BECAUSE Russia backs Armenia.  The US and EU  __want__ to bog Russia down in multiple wars.  As such, what is now taking place is all deliberate.  It is all the deliberate exacerbation of old grievances, into war.

Step by step, the US and EU are deliberately inciting, fomenting, and facilitating what will very soon become World War 3.

I have a suggestion: Maybe some of the people who are doing these things, should become victims of their own war?   They know who they are . . .  and so do we.  Maybe it could be like Seth Rich; they become a mugging victim that no one investigates?

So Armenia is asking Russia [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization protection against Azarbaijan agression...Georgia-very involved already in the Ukraine war since 2014-also wants to join NATO-may go to war with Russia as well...

A look at the map shows south of Azerbaijan is Iran...Iran a major party in Syria, Iraq, Yemen wars...Talks on a new Iran-deal did break up...So-very likely we may see the NATO-Russia war jumping south...with very likely the Middle East getting involved...Israel-NATO war with Iran...

-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i2e93jb_OE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i2e93jb_OE The Kim Iversen Show

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DJ talking with [url]https://t.me/s/ScottRitter[/url] or https://t.me/s/ScottRitter abouth the Ukraine war..

-Yes Ukraine did win a battle, it does not mean they win the war..

-Ukraine giving over 100% of its forces, Russia only 20% of their forces...

-NATO is running the Ukraine Army

-"International Brigade" Private Military Contractors (PMC) (DJ-On the Russian side there is the "Vagner group"...

-Russia going for its targets...security and de-nazification..

-Special Military Operation (SMO) may transfer to Anti Terrorist Operation (ATO) giving Russia more legal ways to fight [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_the_North_Caucasus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_the_North_Caucasus may give an indication what that looks like...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-kharkov-counterattack-was-not-a-big-success.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-kharkov-counterattack-was-not-a-big-success.html 

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein
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I was hoping to find more on the Iran position in the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/13/689121/Iran-gets-offer-for-overseas-farming-in-Venezuela[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/13/689121/Iran-gets-offer-for-overseas-farming-in-Venezuela

Venezuelan Agriculture Minister Wilmar Castro Soteldo says Caracas has offered at least five million hectares of land following agricultural investment agreements with producers from Iran and other countries.

He made the remarks on Monday at a presentation ahead of the Iran-Venezuela scientific, industrial and technological expo fair, which is planned to open in Caracas on Wednesday.

“We are making available five to seven million hectares [of land] that our country has to develop to reach 30 million cultivable hectares,” the minister said.

He added that Venezuela is offering the farmlands to foreign producers to grow crops in the South American country.

however indicates how "south-south cooperation" is getting formed...

[url]https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/476717/Armenia-Azerbaijan-clashes-sound-alarm-bells-in-Tehran[/url] or https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/476717/Armenia-Azerbaijan-clashes-sound-alarm-bells-in-Tehran 

Armenia; [url]https://tass.com/world/1507397[/url] or https://tass.com/world/1507397

YEREVAN, September 14. /TASS/. Armenian Foreign Minister Ararat Mirzoyan said that a mission of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) will arrive in Armenia on September 15.

"We expect that the CSTO mission will arrive in Armenia as early as tomorrow. Our request was duly discussed at the CSTO," the top diplomat said speaking during the government hour at the parliament on Wednesday.

DJ, I think Russia-and Iran-may have major interests in limiting the conflicts...Georgia-discussing restarting war with Russia is north of Armenia, Türkiye to the south...

Pepe Escobar; [url]https://thesaker.is/the-kharkov-game-changer/[/url] or https://thesaker.is/the-kharkov-game-changer/ ;

A counter-terrorist operation

All eyes are on whether “centers of decision” – as in Kiev – may soon get a Khinzal visit. This would signify Moscow has had enough. The siloviki certainly did. But we’re not there – yet. Because for an eminently diplomatic Putin the real game revolves around those gas supplies to the EU, that puny plaything of American foreign policy.

Putin is certainly aware that the internal front is under some pressure. He refuses even partial mobilization. A perfect indicator of what may happen in winter is the referenda in liberated territories. The limit date is November 4 – the Day of National Unity, a commemoration introduced in 2004 to replace the celebration of the October revolution (it already existed in imperial times).

With the accession of these territories to Russia, any Ukrainian counter-offensive would qualify as an act of war against regions incorporated into the Russian Federation. Everyone knows what that means.

It may now be painfully obvious that when the collective West is waging war – hybrid and kinetic, with everything from massive intel to satellite data and hordes of mercenaries – against you, and you insist on conducting a hazily-defined Special Military Operation (SMO), you may be up for some nasty surprises.

So the SMO status may be about to change: it’s bound to become a counter-terrorist operation.

This is an existential war. A do or die affair. The American geopolitical /geoeconomic goal, to put it bluntly, is to destroy Russian unity, impose regime change and plunder all those immense natural resources. Ukrainians are nothing but cannon fodder: in a sort of twisted History remake, the modern equivalents of the pyramid of skulls Timur cemented into 120 towers when he razed Baghdad in 1401.

If may take a “hammer blow” for the RSG to wake up. Sooner rather than later, gloves – velvet and otherwise – will be off. Exit SMO. Enter War.

DJ, again further escalation...with growing risks of NATO forces fighting inside Ukraine against Russian forces-leading to all out NATO-Russia-Iran-China war...The worst possible scenario, no "winners" ...

[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2022/09/13/america-is-the-biggest-winner-and-europe-is-the-biggest-loser/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2022/09/13/america-is-the-biggest-winner-and-europe-is-the-biggest-loser/ ; The European Union’s energy ministers failed in their first meeting to set a cap on the price of energy to prevent the collapse of the unity of Europe, which is on the brink of division due to the consequences of the Ukrainian war. Nevertheless, the disagreement of the European nations’ leaders is also a blessing for the people of the 27-member states, who pay dearly for Europe’s loyalty to the United States of America. European citizens have been under the hefty weight of the high prices of commodities, food and energy for several months. The US admits that its European allies are paying a heavy price to stand by the US-EU sanctions on Russia that hit– not exclusively – the most needed energy in the first place. Nevertheless, the end benefit goes to Washington, defending its unipolar position and world throne, reaping profits from gas selling. Still, at the same time, it strongly contributes to draining the European Union’s wealth and energy. Following Washington’s anti-Russia policy, the EU nations are meant to remain obedient for many years, with a burden that the European population may not accept for very long.

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For many years, Russia supplied 27% of the EU’s imported oil and 40% of its gas. The EU paid Russia around $430 billion a year in return. Von der Leyen wrongly believed Russia wouldn’t dare stop the gas flow to Europe due to the substantial revenue. This wrong assessment by the EU Commission was clear when Russia imposed the payment in Rouble for its gas and later reduced the flow due to “maintenance” to show its readiness to supply other markets and turn its back to the EU.

DJ, for now the US may dream it can keep its position as the "only super power"...Reality is "Asia" is the new superpower, mainly the Russia-Iran-China/RIC alliance -but countries like Saudi Arabia/OPEC+, India, Pakistan made a choice NOT to be colonized by a "global NATO"...From Egypt to Brazil, possibly even South Korea the horror of a colonial past-with their population "a subject" not a "citizen"-apartheid is the totally unacceptable perspective the 10% of the global population "west" is offering the 90% "rest"...

I find it impossible to understand "progressive parties/groups" in that "west"accept this anti-democratic NATO offensive...Again-the "west" may have nuclear weapons pointed at the "rest"...however "the rest"  has even more nuclear fire power...

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein
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