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    Posted: September 30 2006 at 6:14pm
American Biotech Labs — A Quiet Company

Chances are you have never heard of American Biotech Labs, but don't assume that it's not worth knowing who they are and what they do. American Biotech Labs (ABL), headquarters in Alpine Utah, provide innovation and problem solving for companies, governments, and everyday people. At ABL, a team of experts quietly go about the task of finding the hidden keys that unlock the gate to improved health and happiness, without a great deal of fan fare or hoopla. Many of the ABL products are found under private labels of very large (billion dollar) companies. ABL can typically be found, behind the scenes, providing the cutting edge technology necessary to accomplishing that which some of the largest companies in the world have not been able to do.

The experts at ABL have created a patented technology that transforms pure silver into sub-micron or nano-sized particles. These tiny engineered particles react very differently than any of the other more common forms of silver products. Over sixty studies, by some of the worlds leading institutions and scientists, have verified the astounding results achieved from the ABL technology. American Biotech Labs' products have been proven to kill, inactivate, or render harmless some of the most deadly pathogens know to man.

Studies have been completed that show that the company's supplement product can mitigate one of the most lethal diseases in the world today (Malaria) in an average of just five days, for less than a handful of dollars per case or person. Major independent labs, universities, and government institutions have proven the product's ability to kill deadly pathogens including: anthrax, SARS, flesh eating staph, leishmaniasis (Bagdad Boils), and Tuberculosis. It also kills food poisoning bacteria like E. coli, Salmonella, and Listeria. Other deadly pathogens can be killed as well, such as: deadly viruses, black mold, yeast, and yes even the latest world problem H5-N1 bird flu. All this is accomplished with a product that is safe enough to drink which hundreds of thousands of people do every day, all over the world.

To date, the company has been issued three EPA approvals for hard-surface disinfection of bacteria, biofilms and odor-causing bacteria. Three patents have been issued to the company with hundreds of pages of patents currently pending. ABL's supplement product was found to be so successful in the treatment of Malaria in independent human studies, that one African country granted them a homeopathic drug approval. Recently an officer of the company testified before a Congressional Committee as to the success of those human studies and their products unprecedented effect on Malaria.

ABL has been asked to update numerous Congressmen and Senators on Capital Hill about their technology's unparalleled capability to control human pathogens. ABL has briefed numerous leaders in the Army, Navy, Air Force and the Pentagon. ABL representatives have twice met with the Surgeon General of the United States. ABL is currently working with a number of government and military organizations, including: DHS, SOMA, and the William Beaumont Army Medical Center. ABL has been granted purchase contracts with the DLA (Defense Logistics Agency), GSA, and also Veterans Hospitals for both their supplement and also disinfectant products.

ABL has four products on the market now, with a fifth product set to be released this month. Their products can be found in national chain stores like GNC, and literally thousands of health food stores across the United States, doctors offices, hospitals, clinics and some government offices where officials are in the know. Hundreds of thousands of bottles of ABL products are shipped under private labels to countries all over the world, including Canada, Russia, the UK and numerous other countries.

So, if American Biotech Labs can really solve many of the world's most deadly microbial problems, why haven't you heard about them? ABL management would only say, "Many of the people who need to know about us already do. Many government agencies have been briefed about the ABL technology and the unparalleled product capability to protect public health. We are not looking for the front page. We like solving companies', hospitals', and everyday people's problems mostly from behind the scenes. I guess you can say that we do very well by doing good. We have one of the top-selling mineral supplement products in the whole country, and yet chances are that you have never seen an advertisement on our products. News of our products and their abilities seems to spread very quickly by word-of-mouth, and that frees us up to do what we do best, which is to find solutions to current, as well as potential upcoming problems of both National and international importance. Our Utah office has hosted visits from representatives of companies and governments from all over the world, including India, Ireland, Africa, China, Japan, and the Middle East. The fact is that we can do some things that few other people in the world can efficiently do."

Test Work From Numerous Labs And Institutions

American Biotech Labs currently has test work from 37 different EPA and FDA approved labs, government and military agencies, and major universities and international companies. The company has completed test work against Anthrax at IIT, tests against SARS with the NIH (National Institute OF Health), Yeast tests with the University Of California at Davis, food disinfection at Kansas State, Leishmaniasis with William Beaumont Army Medical Center where the product killed the Bagdad boils pathogen at only 1-2 ppm. Numerous anti-microbial studies have been completed at Brigham Young University, as well as test work against Hepatitis b. and with Viridis BioPharma in India. Tests against Malaria were conducted at four different hospitals in Ghana, West Africa. The list goes on and on. Currently the company has started a series of tests in which the ASAP and Silver Biotics supplement products are being tested in test tubes against a number of viral strains of the bird flu. This is information may soon prove invaluable to people worldwide. The product has already been shown to successfully kill several strains of the bird flu in the test tube.

Importance Of The Supplement Product

The importance of a bird-flu-killing supplement product has yet to be determined. But, information is coming to light from numerous sources suggesting that the drug Tamiflu™ will most likely have little or no effect on the bird flu, and that there are so few doses of the product available anyway, that most people would have little or no chance of getting some, even if it did work. Add to that the fact that other treatment options, like an effective vaccine, are still years away, most common people will have little chance of having anything to protect themselves, and their families, should the bird flu go pandemic. ABL's supplement has at least proven to be able to beat the flu in the test tube, which is something that Tamiflu ™ has yet to accomplish. When asked why ABL doesn't try to get the product approved as a drug, the reply was that if the bird flu hits in the next few years there wouldn't be enough time to do it, and even if they tried, they expect that it may not be worth the political fight. Another asset which the product has is that it is safe enough to take prophylactically (used or taken every day), the importance of this being that it is much easier to fight a problem pathogen a little at a time from the start, rather than waiting until a person exhibits or finally feels the full symptoms coming on. In other words, it is a lot harder to fight a virus after it has multiplied in your system and you have all the symptoms of the full-blown disease.

Of the bird flu cases that have been found and reported, and drug treatments in many cases have been given, over 50% of the infected people have died. This means that if you come down with the disease and then seek treatment, the odds of your surviving the disease, even with drug treatment after infection, is not good. The real problem is that many experts are stating that a person can have the disease and be able to spread it to others for as many as 10 days, before they show any symptoms of having the Bird Flu. If the virus has ten days to build up in the body before it is recognized that a person needs treatment, that person would be past the time in which any known anti flu drug can claim usefulness, most approved drugs claim that treatment needs to begin within 24-48 hours after infection starts. It would seem the prophylactic use of the ABL supplement may be one of few viable options.

Currently, the American Biotech Labs' supplement product (under the Silver Biotics label) is available in thousands of health food stores, like GNC, all across the United States, and the public has easy access to it. ABL management has stated that if they did get it approved by the FDA and it became a drug, fewer people would be able to get it, and the cost would go up substantially. ABL believes they can do more good by leaving it as a supplement and not making any claims about it themselves. That way anyone can purchase the product at their local health food store any time they need or desire it, instead of only being able to get the product after a doctors visit by prescription. Other important scientific groups can continue report their findings and take the credit. ABL has stated that they just want to be able to continue to give people hope and a first line of defense when they need it.

A Unique But Effective Kind Of Disinfectant

American Biotech Labs' ASAP AGX-32 product is a new and very different kind of disinfectant. It has no color, smell, chemicals, or human toxicity, and yet the product is highly effective at killing deadly human pathogens. The ABL product is not designed to compete with the giant disinfectant products. Rather, it was designed with the specific purpose to disinfect areas in and around where people, including children, live and work and play, with no negative effect. An added bonus is that the places where the product is used will not have that disinfectant smell that many hospitals, doctors offices and dental offices have.

The ABL product has its own unique niche, in the fact that it can be safely used to disinfect a number of surfaces which other toxic disinfectants cannot be used. It could safely be used for disinfecting a child's wheelchair with the child still in it, disinfecting an operating room while the doctors work on a patient, disinfecting around a bed where a war veteran is recovering and can't easily be moved. The ABL product can also be used to disinfect a military tank, submarine or helicopter, in tight quarters, with everyone still at work. The ASAP AGX-32 disinfectant product will not irritate the eyes or skin. It is so effective that it can kill some of the deadliest pathogens in minutes, (it killed 81,000,000 bubonic plague or Y. Pestis bacteria in just two minutes of contact time) but if a small child were to accidently drink the whole bottle, the child would not suffer any negative effects.

The ASAP AGX-32 disinfectant product is fully approved by the U.S. EPA as a hard-surface disinfectant, for any medical facility, industrial, commercial or even residential usage. As the company states, "The ABL product is strong enough to disinfect a hospital operating room and gentle enough to disinfect a baby's crib." The ABL product is approved to kill gram-negative, gram-positive and even nosocomial or hospital-mutated pathogens. New test work has already been filed with the EPA to expand the approval to include not only bacteria, but also yeast and black mold (environmental fungi), all with just a 10 minute kill time. In animal toxicity tests the ABL product had no negative effect on the test animals, even when it was injected into them at levels of up to 5000 milligrams-per-kilogram of body weight.

Historically, to use a regular disinfectant a person would need to put on gloves and a mask, move everyone from the room, disinfect, disinfect from the disinfectant, and then let people back into the room to work. The next person that walks into the room may then reinfect the whole area. The benefit of using the American Biotech Labs' product is that it can be used to disinfect an area while people are working in the room, and the user has the option to disinfect again an hour later if they choose to. No gloves or masks are needed and the people working or recovering in that room, would never have to leave the room while it is being disinfected. The product will not irritate a persons skin or eyes. The government approval on the ASAP AGX-32 product currently lists the product as: Bactericidal -Disinfectant - Antimicrobial - Cleaner - Bacteriostat.

Broad Spectrum

The technology that ABL created is very broad spectrum in its ability to kill a wide variety of deadly pathogens. Out of the thousands of antimicrobial tests that have been completed, the company has not found one pathogen that the engineered product could not kill. Test pathogens include: yeast, fungus, black mold, bacteria, virus and also a number of pathogenic protozoa. Research attributes this unprecedented anti-microbial success to the multiple modes of action of the ABL product. Because the product utilizes these multiple modes of action (different ways of killing the problem organisms ), pathogens are less likely to mutate around the technology, and therefor die at the same levels each time tested.

Drug Adjunct

One of the most important uses of the ABL technology may be as a drug adjunct. A peer review paper due out later this year examines the potential of using the American Biotech Labs' engineered nano product in conjunction with antibiotics to fight resistant pathogens and disease. In the paper, the authors tested the additive value of using the product with 19 different antibiotics, and found in the study that indeed the product did have an additive value in each test case. This means that potentially the ABL product could be added as an additional supplement treatment with drugs, to make the drugs more effective. In an era where many, if not most drugs, are losing their abilities to treat infections because of bacterial resistance to the drugs, adding in the nano product as an adjunct or addition to treatment may be a huge advantage to both the drug companies and also to the end user or patients. The drug companies would benefit because their drugs could remain effective for longer periods of time and thereby continue to add to profits, while the patients benefit because the product has the potential to significantly reduce their hospital down-time, as well as reduce the potential risk of acquiring a serious secondary or superbug infection, which are so common in hospitals today.

Conclusion

While American Biotech Labs is in fact a quiet company that tries to stay out of the limelight, the technology they created may just save your life someday. Through the use of a number of different products, including supplements, disinfectants, or drug adjuncts, the need to know who ABL is, may become very important to you or your loved ones in the future. Knowledge is power, and there is nothing worse than seeing a loved one slip away and not having the power to do anything about it, especially when there may be something out there that could help them. This quiet company seems to be working hard to provide that kind of hope.    
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Originally posted by ABLL ABLL wrote:

American Biotech Labs — A Quiet Company

Chances are you have never heard of American Biotech Labs, but don't assume that it's not worth knowing     
  
 
No, as a matter of fact I haven't and for a company that opens that it is a "Quiet Comapny" you sure do have a lot to say!  For now I will say it is not worth knowing unless you can show me all the fortunate souls you have saved over in Indonesia from bird flu... Here, I'm not too concerned about anthrax, SARS, flesh eating staph, leishmaniasis (Bagdad Boils), and Tuberculosis and that it also kills food poisoning bacteria like E. coli, Salmonella, and Listeria at the moment, thank you.  For those old nasties, good old bleach, vinegar, face masks and hand washing works just fine! Approve 
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For now I will say it is not worth knowing unless you can show me all the fortunate souls you have saved over in Indonesia from bird flu...
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Cruis...Did you read my post?   That Co. needs to get the Gov's attention
and $$$ funding in order to help anyone.... I'll take it over posible suicidal thoughts... i.e. ribavirin
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Hello Anh...

 

I apologize, I did not read your reply and now that I have, I am even more resolute in my abhorrence of ABLL's post.  Colloidal silver and any similar offerings has been presented here before and is old news, just look at the date of the initial presentation... April 2005 and concerning indigenous diseases in Africa.   I would expect given an almost two year grace period would be more than enough for them to show the world that their product indeed will save us from the scourge of Bird Flu of which I am currently and most concerned with here if it truly had even a slight advantage to help us fight this battle.  Please no offense to you Anharra, I am not convinced nor interested in the barker on the street corner selling his wares!

Please think positive thoughts for we will prevail and survive if only on the good will of the members here who support our worthy cause!   Smile
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 hi Cruiser...
 
"...I am even more resolute..."  LOL... you would be.
 
"...if it truly had even a slight advantage to help us fight this battle...."
 
I grabbed that idea of any advantage (so I have a bottle of it)
 
True... many are here with the cure, but not so many for me to mind much.
 
I'm very pos... remember...I have no gun :)
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I know of people who use collidial silver and have never been sick. I also know that a lot of Israelis have this, due to the threat of bio terror etc. However, the stronger point should be, that someone posting something that may help, helps us all. We will get from time to time repeats or new news on something we have heard of before, especially with new people coming on board. I think we have to be very careful about not discouraging in any way what someone else thinks could be helpful, or people will stop posting for fear they will be put down. We could miss some good stuff that  way. My preps do include collidial silver making device, and some distilled water. It is cheap and easy, and as long as you dont take too much, you wont turn blue. LOL Like so many other things on here, it may work.
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"I grabbed that idea of any advantage (so I have a bottle of it)"
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I may get another bottle of it.
 
The Company above is talking nanoparticles ... I am interested in how that differs from a homeopathic version of silver.  It's action on the body.
 
I think the Government is overlooking nanotechnology as it did cellular
back in the 70's.   At this point people in the know are tring to talk it up...above the roar of conventional pharmacuticals.
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Howdy folks,

 

I bow to the collective desire to freely exchange information and wholly support that concept here.  I work in the chemical industry and have had nono technology presented to my company for product research.  To date despite all the potential for new novel technology I have taken a pass for the only reason that these producers have yet to fully understand the health risks firstly to myself and co-workers and secondly to my customers.  These nano particles are so small they can freely move throughout our bodies which have zero capacity to process nor interact with particles so small that they are foreign to our bodies and can trigger hostile cellular responses within our bodies.  I encourage you whole-heartedly to do further research since I do care about all here and only wish for the best care and support of all members and guests.  Here is an article I would like to offer to you for a start….

 
 
Tuesday, February 07, 2006

Screening for Toxic Nanoparticles

Researchers suggest a strategy that could weed out dangerous nanoparticles.

By Kevin Bullis

The novel properties of nanoparticles mean they could find uses in applications as different as solar power and cancer treatment. Indeed, some nanoparticles have already made it into commercial products, notably, cosmetics.

Many experts worry, however, that the unique properties of these particles could make them toxic, and fear over the potential dangers of nanoparticles has led to increasing calls for tests and regulations (see New Nano Law? and Can EPA Regulate Nano?). But the sheer number of new nano materials will make evaluating all of them impossible. The result: either harmful materials could reach consumers, or, in an effort to play it safe, restrictive regulations could be created that clamp down on innovation.

The authors of a review of past studies published last week in the journal Science suggest a strategy for screening the most dangerous nanoparticles more efficiently, which could help avert potential disasters and allow the development of new technologies to continue. The strategy would use "predictive toxicology," which looks for subtle signs that the cells in a culture are starting to defend themselves, indicating that the particles they've been exposed to could be dangerous.

Andre Nel, professor of medicine at UCLA, and one of the authors of the paper, says that existing work on the toxicity of particles that are byproducts of industrial and natural processes should help researchers to identify the telltale danger signs in cell-culture screening of nanoparticles.

According to the review, researchers studying particle toxicology have already identified molecular mechanisms that are triggered when dangerous particles come into contact with living cells. They've found that dangerous particles create reactive forms of oxygen that damage cells. At low concentrations of these molecules, cells can defend themselves by producing anti-oxidants. As concentrations increase, however, cells become inflamed or die. At each stage, the cell produces signs that can be screened for, using cell cultures that have been exposed to these new particles.

Nel says that engineered nanoparticles are likely to produce similar effects, as was found with early studies on fullerenes. By testing engineered particles on cell cultures, he says, researchers could identify those particles that are most likely to be dangerous.

Nel's proposed screening method won't catch everything, though. "There may, in fact, be some novel mechanisms for toxicity that nanoparticles might produce," says Kevin Ausman, executive director of operations at the Center for Biological and Environmental Nanotechnology at Rice University in Houston. This could mean that some dangerous particles get through.

But, for now, signs of reactive oxygen "seem to be a natural place to start looking," says Ausman, adding that others have suggested similar ideas. "Should it be looked at to the exclusion of all else? No. But given the fact that we have limited resources to look at this really huge field, with a wide-open set of questions, we have to be able to focus."

Indeed, Nel emphasizes that their tests won't prove that a particle is safe. But, as nanoparticles appear in more products, the need for some sort of efficient screening is growing. "We don't have the luxury at this stage to wait for a mature toxicology for each particle," Nel says. "We need to do something proactive."

Be safe...Cruiser

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I have taken a pass for the only reason that these producers have yet to fully understand the health risks firstly to myself and co-workers and secondly to my customers. (Cruiser)
 
"...the need for some sort of efficient screening is growing...."
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I agree...
 
This is why I wish the Gov. would fund nanotechnilogy, to get the kinks out. 
 
I'm thinking it is far more frightening to let the world go willy nilly down the path of bovine, canine kidney, caterpillar, rabbit, human fetal, cadaver skelital cells.... concocting all sorts of cool things to inject people with.
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Beware the snake oil sellers.They will all come out now while people still have money in their pockets
 
This article is so poorly written and full of gooblygook phrases that are used in the back of magazine That you can  tell it not backed by anyone or any medical facility. 
 
I dont mean cruser article
 
Cruizer your article was a athentic research paper.  You can spot the difference 
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It does sound amazing... it is.     
ExxonMobil is spending research money on Nanotechnology
It's everywhere now
this is why they need to hurry and catch up with the laws and regs.
 
 
Andre Nel, professor of medicine at UCLA
 
 Kevin Ausman, executive director of operations at the Center for Biological and Environmental Nanotechnology at Rice University in Houston.
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1. " The experts at ABL have created a patented technology that transforms pure silver into sub-micron or nano-sized particles. These tiny engineered particles react very differently than any of the other more common forms of silver products. Over sixty studies, by some of the worlds leading institutions and scientists, have verified the astounding results achieved from the ABL technology. American Biotech Labs' products have been proven to kill, inactivate, or render harmless some of the most deadly pathogens know to man.

Studies have been completed that show that the company's supplement product can mitigate one of the most lethal diseases in the world today (Malaria) in an average of just five days, for less than a handful of dollars per case or person. Major independent labs, universities, and government institutions have proven the product's ability to kill deadly pathogens including: anthrax, SARS, flesh eating staph, leishmaniasis (Bagdad Boils), and Tuberculosis. It also kills food poisoning bacteria like E. coli, Salmonella, and Listeria. Other deadly pathogens can be killed as well, such as: deadly viruses, black mold, yeast, and yes even the latest world problem H5-N1 bird flu. All this is accomplished with a product that is safe enough to drink which hundreds of thousands of people do every day, all over the world. "

2.  Internet ad:

Effectiveness

In testing, ASAP-AGX-32® was able to kill bacteria with just a 10 minute contact time. It killed deadly bacteria, including gram-negative, gram-positive and even nosocomial (hospital mutated) pathogens.

Disinfectant Uses

ASAP-AGX-32® can be used to disinfect hard surfaces, including: walls, tables, sinks, baby-changing tables/tubs, chairs, beds, wheel chairs, door handles, hand rails, countertops, light fixtures, floors, bathrooms toilet seats, urinals, public phones, desks, computer tables, travel and any other hard non-porous surface. The surfaces include those made of glass, porcelain, glazed ceramic, enameled, painted, and also metal.

http://www.silverbiotics.com/asapAGX32.html

Also this page, which I could not copy, describing the product but does not really tell you what the product does:
 
 
What the EPA has to say about products with the claims asserted in #1:
 

"Articles or products that claim to be effective in controlling microorganisms such as E.coli, S.aureus, Salmonella sp. or Streptococcus sp. must be registered as a pesticide. These articles or products make a public health claim that goes beyond the preservation of the treated article itself. EPA requires the submission of chemical data in support of the public health labeling claims and patterns of use of the product. If EPA determines that such a product is exempt from registration as a pesticide, the product may claim only that it contains a pesticidal preservative to protect the product itself. These pesticides are known as materials preservatives. In these cases, the pesticide is registered for the intended use, and the sole purpose of treatment is to protect the product itself. These pesticides are widely used in the manufacture of textiles, plastics, paper, adhesives, and coatings.

"Any pesticide-treated product that is not registered by EPA must not make public health claims, such as "fights germs, provides antibacterial protection, or controls fungus." EPA's policy is predicated on the fact that no scientific evidence exists that these products prevent the spread of germs and harmful microorganisms in humans. "   Also:   The Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) requires the registration of any substance intended to prevent, destroy, repel, or mitigate pests. However, the Code of Federal Regulations prescribes the conditions under which an exemption from registration is allowed for treated articles or substances.There is more that you can read about this registration here:

 
The very descriptive praise of this product sounds very misleading to me. EPA approved for what?
FDA says this:Claims stated on the product labeling, in advertising, on the Internet, or in other promotional materials. Certain claims may cause a product to be considered a drug, even if the product is marketed as if it were a cosmetic. Such claims establish the product as a drug because the intended use is to treat or prevent disease or otherwise affect the structure or functions of the human body. article too long to copy can be read here:
a pdf file of the actual communication from the FDA to the president of this company in question:
particularly telling is the labeling statement required by FDA (and he assures FDA is posted on label)  that this has not been evaluated by the FDA and is not intended to "diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease", a long way from what the original post article stated.
Sorry for the length of this post, but I don't think there is any bird flu cure or preventative here.
 
If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
   
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Nanotechnology is a large word and is used freely in this article .  Nanotcnology is used in milartary uses and in machinerery manufacturing for years .  It simply a case of someone using a new buzzword to sell snake oil.   The more you read on it,the more you read references to  medical usese being toxic
 
Judy well written post.   I feel we need to keep out the snake oil sellers out of the forum or at least fight them with intelligent articles.   If we dont then it give these products acceptance and literly  could cause a death of a member of this forum
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[QUOTE=Anharra]The Company above is talking nanoparticles ... I am interested in how that differs from a homeopathic version of silver.  [/QUOTE] A remedy is homeopathic because of how it is prepared, not simply that it is probably ultradiluted.  Homeopathy is an energy medicine and promotes the body's ability to cure itself rather than acting directly.
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 in how that differs from a homeopathic version of silver.  It's action on the body.

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It's action on the body.
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"...technology that transforms pure silver into sub-micron or nano-sized particles. These tiny engineered particles react very differently than any of the other more common forms of silver products...."
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Wanting to hear from someone on the nontech end....
 
 
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I'm wondering if your question is how does it compare to the action of colloidal silver.  Colloidal silver is definitely not homeopathic.  That may be where the confusion lies.
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The problem with nanatecnology in drugs is controlling the toxicity of the product. 
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