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    Posted: February 13 2006 at 6:47pm

Here are some things that I know that Kill the Avian Flu virus:

  1. Bleach
  2. UV Rays
  3. Antiviral Agents
  4. Heat

What am I missing or do you know one that I may not know?

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Doesn't alcohol kill H5N1?
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I think that sounds right if it is 60% or higher. I will check into it, THANKS!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elbows Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2006 at 10:02am
Im not sure if antivirals count as killing H5N1, maybe just interfere with its ability to reproduce.
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Originally posted by elbows elbows wrote:

Im not sure if antivirals count as killing H5N1, maybe just interfere with its ability to reproduce.

Good Point!

Howver I was meaning more cleaners than medications. I am sorry taht I did not specify.

Good Point!

However I was meaning more cleaners than medications. I am sorry that I did not specify.

Example:  Tea Tree Oil is a Natural Form of an antiviral agent and Lavender Essential oil is universal; it has all of the properties needed for cleaning. It is antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, and boosts the immune system. Most everyone can use it with no allergic reaction. If you are very sensitive to everything and are tired of having no smells around try a little Pure Organic Lavender Essential Oil in you cleaning products. See more: Make your own Natural Antiviral, Antibacterial Cleaners!

 

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I just ran across this site. It's called, What Doctors Don't Tell You (WDDTY). This .pdf is 17 pages long and has a few very good article on Tamiflu.

Prep-On

http://www.wddty.co.uk/cms/files/WDDTY162qxd.pdf

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Doug, I just had a look at the WDDTY site and was a bit puzzled -- they keep referring to Tamiflu as a "vaccine"!? At one point they correctly label it an anti-viral, only to question its effectiveness by stating that it can't work  since "experts agree that there is no vaccine against BF".  ????
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viruses are not live entities like bacteria to be killed,we desactivate it,two other thing can do the job

1-digestive enzymes called protease

2-silver.

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Originally posted by virusil virusil wrote:

1-digestive enzymes called protease

Thanks, do you have information on this one, I knew about Bromelain.

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As H5N1 is a virus, antibiotics dont work.  Only Tamiflu and Relenza Can be used for the treatment of bird flu.

you can get information about Tamiflu and Relenza or you can even buy Tamiflu and Relenza by clicking the link below

http://www.bbonlinepharmacy.com/category.asp?kid=29

 

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a nice digestive enzymes taken 3 times on empty stomach will do the job
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What kills this virus?

Ive posted this elkswhere on this site, but will do so again.

Bird flu is a flu virus, and that means its a lipid coated virus. Lipid coated viruses can be killed with Lauric acid(found in coconut oil and also mothers milk)

Lauric.org was established in 1997 when it was determined a need existed for (i) undertaking clinical research that focused on the role that lauric acid and its monoglyceride derivatives play in combating lipid-coated viruses (LCVs) such as HIV virus, measles virus, herpes simplex virus-1 (HSV-1), vesicular stomatitus virus (VSV), visna virus, and cytomegalovirus (CMV), and (ii) promoting an awareness among the international research community of the existence of such anti-viral, anti-microbial monoglycerides.

http://www.lauric.org/mission.html

Approximately 50% of the fatty acids in coconut fat are lauric acid.

Lauric acid is a medium chain fatty acid, which has the additional beneficial function of being formed into monolaurin in the human or animal body.

Monolaurin is the antiviral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid-coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various pathogenic bacteria, including listeria monocytogenes and helicobacter pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia. Some studies have also shown some antimicrobial effects of the free lauric acid.

Also, approximately 6-7% of the fatty acids in coconut fat are capric acid.

Capric acid is another medium chain fatty acid, which has a similar beneficial function when it is formed into monocaprin in the human or animal body. Monocaprin has also been shown to have antiviral effects against HIV and is being tested for antiviral effects against herpes simplex and antibacterial effects against chlamydia and other sexually transmitted bacteria.

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_health.htm

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2. Research ibn Korea identifies kim chi as a possible cure for bird flu:

South Korea's spicy fermented cabbage dish, kimchi, could help to cure bird flu, according to researchers.

Scientists at Seoul National University say they fed an extract of kimchi to 13 infected chickens - and a week later 11 of them had started recovering.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4347443.stm

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Soapy water and detergents are first choice for many items!!

- The avian influenza virus is more simple to destroy than many viruses since it is very sensitive to detergents which destroy the fat containing outer layer of the virus. This layer is needed to enter cells of animals and therefore destroys the infectivity.

- The virus survives well in water and simple washing may assist the virus to enter into areas where it is picked up by other birds.

- Therefore any washing to remove contamination should always be with detergents (soapy water) or specific disinfectants.

- The biggest danger is bird droppings -the virus likes moist, dirty conditions so it is essential to thoroughly disinfect items that have been in contact with bird droppings - cages, shoes, clothes before working with poultry/entry to a place where poultry are kept.

- Simple hygienic measures can reduce risk - but national authorities are encouraged to prepare and communicate specific guidance of each type of poultry enterprise.

- More guidance for veterinary services on selection and application of decontamination procedures is given in the reference below. Adaptation to the specific country circumstances will be needed.

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bleach and boiling water, IMO
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  A virus has to get into and back out of a cell to wreak its havock. Amantidine blocks entry into the cell and tamiflu blocks the virus from getting out of the cell. These drugs do not kill the viral particles. The separate modes of action is the reason for the recommendation of dual therapy. Unfortunately a single amino acid change in the M2 protein can block the effectiveness of amantidine and a single amino acid change in the N5 protein can block the effectiveness of tamiflu.   ER Doc
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I am basing my disinfection plan on:-
 
BLEACH, (5% +)  for water,  benches, door handles etc.
 
ALCOHOL, (in the form of 95% Methylated Spirit) for personal disinfection.
 
 
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Originally posted by KillerFlu.net KillerFlu.net wrote:

Here are some things that I know that Kill the Avian Flu virus:

  1. Bleach
  2. UV Rays
  3. Antiviral Agents
  4. Heat
 
From this list I take it you mean external to the body. Bleach is usally sold as 2%, from there is has to be diluted as 10/1 water/bleach.  Soap and water as already posted is very effective in killing this virus (less so on some other viruses).  Cooking.. does not even have to be up to the boiling point to be effective. 
Don't put bleach in hot water.  It will more quickly lose its disinfecting power.  You can wash with soap and hot water, then use bleach mixed with cool or lukewarm water.  Or after washing use 70% alcohol (at least 60%, 90% is also ok, but overkill) 
Some UV is more effective than others at killing virus, use a light designed to kill germs.  This could reduce viruses in air, but not very reliably.
Air drying of droplets will slowly kill them by exposure to oxygen.  Hydrogen peroxide is also effective, and can be used in the mouth as a gargle - mix half and half with water, or as a nose rinse.   Eyes are not as vulnerable but should be rinsed with clean if not sterile water; some avian flus cause conjunctivitis.
 
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Thanks for all the replies!!
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