How to Prepare for a Pandemic -- Seven Ba
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Topic: How to Prepare for a Pandemic -- Seven Ba
Posted By: Guests
Subject: How to Prepare for a Pandemic -- Seven Ba
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 8:20am
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We are hoping to create a leaflet that we can distribute to the American public. It's purpose would be to educate and inspire Americans -- right now to begin prepping. This leaflet would be posted on the AFT web site as an educational material -- a printable document/poster. Our goal would be to design an easy to follow guide that can be distributed to media and the general public.
The following is a just a copy and we hope to get your input as to what other what topics should be included. I was inspired by the CDC and USDA/Homeland Security web sites and thought this was a great idea to reach the average American. We are 2165 strong here in AFT membership -- and this informational brochure has the potential to reach a lot of people. Perhaps, we can contact health departments, churches, emergency officials, and school organizations. Here are some ideas I came up with and I would love to hear what you ideas you might also have. Let's paper America and help them prepare for the future pandemic. Regards, Argyll.
Note: This leaflet should also be adopted for use in other countries as well. This is a global future pandemic, so everyone should be included.
Preparing for Pandemic Influenza -- Seven Basic Steps.
1. Store enough non-perishable food and water for 1-3 months ( 2 months?). Include one gallon water per person each day. Remember to include your pets.
2. Stockpile all necessary prescription drugs.
3. Prepare a first aid emergency kit for your family. Include any special medical items ( N95 masks, plastic gloves, hand sanitizer, bleach) in addition to basic first aid items.
4. Collect and make copies of all important documents -- including medical records. Store in a waterproof container.
5. Store gas in an approved gas container for possible use in a generator.
6. Create a family emergency plan and keep in a special folder. This could include a first aid and survival book.
7. Protect your family by practicing healthy habits -- stop the spread of germs. Wash hands often, and cover your mouth and nose when sneezing. Practice social distancing.
For more information on how to prepare for pandemic influenza visit the pandemichelp.org web site at:
http://www.pandemichelp.org - http://www.pandemichelp.org
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 8:28am
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argyll: can you change the title to read pandemic influenza instead of avian influenza |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:05am
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cover updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:08am
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On the inside of the brochure there would be three sections unfolded. Can they be broken down into sections like: Home - Food - Family for example...with tips under each heading. Ease of reading... Critiques Welcome! Change the graphic? Change the layout? Change the font? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:21am
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Standingfirm,
That looks great! Is there anywhere in the leaflet we could insert a picture of a family? This graphics package is really nice -- I especially like the font and pandemichelp.org site on front. Really jumps out and commands your attention.
Check with Albert -- he is the man in charge. Thanks! Argyll,
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:27am
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inside updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:28am
Whatever Albert wants....I thought you checked this out with him already!!!  I will try to find a public domain family but there are singles out there and "different" sorts of families - makes it tough. I can change anything and everything to suit. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:31am
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On the reverse I thought about quotes from CDC FEMA CIDRAP-Osterholm What do you think? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:34am
| Will this brochure have a brief summary of why the need to prepare? Pandemic, or other unpredictable emergencies? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:41am
| Argyll? That may be good for the reverse and I can reference it on the front with an arrow and the word "why?" |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:52am
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Standingfirm and 4thegirls, great ideas! I think a simple paragraph inserted inside is a great idea. Would love to see what you all have in mind. I did talk with Albert about the idea, but told him everything would have his final approval since he is the administrator. Hope he takes a look at this thread and we hear from him soon! Argyll. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:55am
| I will keep playing until I hear |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 9:58am
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I have an idea. How about a mission statement on the purpose of the brochure? What do you think? Something short and right to the point? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:27am
| it is always good to know why someone is giving you information but I would lose it in favor of quotes from "authorities" that way the reader is arguing with those authorities....our mission matters little if our information is good. Brochures are limited spacewise |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:28am
| I could use the space within the lines around the graphics for a mission statement as long as the readers eye isn't diverted from the main point. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:30am
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cover updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:32am
| The mission statement or brief summary that 4thegirls suggested could also go on the bottom of the 7 points (inside portion) of the brochure. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:41am
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inside updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:55am
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Very nice! I have a few recommendations, take it for what it is worth. change to read: 2. Stockpile all necessary prescription and non-prescription over the counter medications.
4. Collect and make copies of all important documents -- including medical records,a list of all relatives with names, addresses and phone numbers for emergency contact. Also include copies of family birth certificates, wedding certificates, firearms licenses, passports, driver licenses, law enforcement credentials. military ID cards and any other importatnt documents that may be required for identification, travel or special purpose. Store in a water proof and washable container.
5. Make preparations for extended electric power interuptions. This may include alternate power sources, ie. a gas generator and gas, solar or wind power, candles, matches, flashlights, alternate cooking methods, batteries, battery operated radios, wired phone that doesn't require batteries.
add these:
8. Make preparations for disruptions in heating fuel supplies including fuel oil, natural gas, propane, and normal wood delivery. This may include wood for use in a fieplace or wood stove, heavy blankets or sleeping bags, a winter freestanding backpacking tent to setup inside to retain body heat at night,
9. Make preparations for alternate water source disinfection. This will include regular un-scented bleach to disinfect municiple water supplies, local lake or stream water, rain water or other surface water that may be available.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 10:58am
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new back posted below |
Posted By: VtDoc
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:01am
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Would change #1 to just food and make water its own item, something like:
Ensure enough water for one gallon per person each day. This can be either stored clean water, or the means to purify water from outside sources. (Perhaps a little more info or website on water purification)
For #2, should expand to:
If possible, obtain a 1-3 month supply of essential medications for all family members.
For #3, would list some items to be kept in a basic first aid kit (maybe in a separate box) and a brief description about what an N95 mask is, since this is likely to be a new term to many people.
Not sure about #5. If you have a generator this is good advice, but maybe this should be a broader statement about what to do to get ready for possible utility disruptions. For example:
Prepare for possible interruptions in electric service with battery-powered lights and a radio, and a supply of batteries. Consider obtaining a generator and storing fuel.
Number 7 is good advice, but strictly speaking is about what to do during the outbreak, rather than beforehand. What about 2 separate lists, 1 for preparation, and 1 for suggestions of what to do when it strikes? (I know that it shouldn't be too long and there's a limit how much can be included.)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:03am
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I looked up the Red Cross' mission statement and came up with idea for a mission statement for the brochure. All feedback welcome! This brochure is supported in part by pandemichelp.org. A humanitarian forum, pandemichelp.org's primary mission is to inform and educate all people in order to prepare and respond to pandemic influenza. For more information visit: http://www.pandemichelp.org - http://www.pandemichelp.org Albert -- how does this sound? Is there a mission statement on file for pandemichelp.org? Please feel free to revise this in any way you deem necessary.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:10am
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VTDoc,
Good points. Standingfirm, go ahead an revise to his specifications. Makes good sense. Throw out number 5 and add a line about the possiblity of utility disruptions. Thanks for all of your input! Argyll.
p.s. I like the idea about 2 brochures -- pre-pandemic and post-pandemic.
5. Use VtDoc -- it is excellent.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:14am
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Standingfirm,
There are awesome ideas for revisions to this brochure. Feel free to adapt any to copy. I really like the graphic you have used -- Thanks Argyll.
p.s. Thanks Mach --great ideas indeed!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:41am
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Any other revisions-I added some of my own so check this please. 1. Ensure enough water for one gallon per person each day. This can
be either stored clean water, or the means to purify water from outside
sources. Include one gallon water per person each day. Remember
to include your pets. Make preparations for alternate water source disinfection. This will
include regular un-scented bleach to disinfect municiple water
supplies, local lake or stream water, rain water or other surface water
that may be available.
2. Stockpile all necessary prescription and non-prescription over the counter medications. If possible, obtain a 1-3 month supply of essential medications for all family members.
3. Prepare a first aid emergency kit for your family. Include any
special medical items ( N95 masks, plastic gloves, hand sanitizer,
bleach) in addition to basic first aid items.
4. Collect and make copies of all important documents -- including medical
records,a list of all relatives with names, addresses and phone numbers
for emergency contact. Also include copies of family birth
certificates, wedding certificates, firearms licenses, passports,
driver licenses, law enforcement credentials. military ID cards and any
other important documents that may be required for identification,
travel or special purpose. Store in a water proof and washable
container. Include a letter from a utility company that proves residency of your home.
5. Prepare for possible interruptions in electric
service with battery-powered lights and a radio, and a supply of
batteries. Consider obtaining a generator and storing fuel. As always store fuels in an approved fuel containers. Make preparations for disruptions in heating fuel supplies including
fuel oil, natural gas, propane, and normal wood delivery. This may
include wood for use in a fieplace or wood stove, heavy blankets or
sleeping bags, a winter freestanding backpacking tent to setup inside
to retain body heat at night.
6. Create a family emergency plan and keep in a special folder. This could include a first aid and survival book. Include plans on where to meet if seperated during an emergency.
7. Protect your family by practicing healthy habits -- stop the
spread of germs. Wash hands often, and cover your mouth and nose when
sneezing. Sneeze into the bend in your arm and not your hands. Practice social distancing. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:50am
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Standingfirm,
Looks great. I liked the line about proof of residency. Is there a place in the list of 7 that we can state stockpiling non-pershiable foods say for two months? I am thinking 8 weeks based on the first wave which that said could last 8 weeks. People may read up on this and stock for longer, but for some this will require time to make financial arrangments if their bills are tight. Maybe we can throw the food line in with the water recommendation?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:55am
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1. Stockpile 8 weeks of non-perishable food needs to be stored in your home. This may require the assistance of other family members or that you assist family or neighbors in accomplishing this task. Also, ensure enough water for one gallon per person each day. This can
be either stored clean water, or the means to purify water from outside
sources. Include one gallon of water per person each day. Remember
to include your pets. Make preparations for alternate water source disinfection. This will
include regular un-scented bleach to disinfect municiple water
supplies, local lake or stream water, rain water or other surface water
that may be available. ??? Argyll |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:06pm
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back updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:16pm
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update posted below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:51pm
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:53pm
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any changes? I can prepare this is word and as a pdf ready for printing. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:56pm
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Looks great. I would add only a little bit and maybe include the following:
1. Stockpile 8 weeks of non-perishable foods and store within your home. This food source will cover you in case there are any interruptions to receving adequate food supplies.
I thought maybe we should throw that line in ( as to why 8 weeks) because I saw that addressed in other pandemic guidelines. They basically said that stores might be closed, or refrigeration not available.
What do you think?
Has Albert chimed in today? Would love to get his feedback, too. Thanks! Argyll.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:58pm
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Standingfirm,
I just have to say this looks absolutely fantastic -- awesome job. And to those who helped with the copy -- your ideas were outstanding.
Argyll.
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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:01pm
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OK...I know I'll be under fire for this...but here goes. I feel pretty strongly that, when a person receives this for the first time, they will say "Food for 1 to 3 months...yeah, Right...I can barely keep my family fed now". I just think that number will put off a lot of people who would normally not see it as a huge task to store, say a couple of weeks worth of food and water, and they might simply toss the leaflet out. I am prepped for 4 months, but I started out prepping for just 2 weeks. I've heard many on this forum say "What good will 2 weeks of preps do?" I'll tell you: If all or most people only prepped for a couple of weeks (including batteries, etc.) we would almost entirely avoid panic buying and cleaned out grocery shelves in the first days. It could buy suppliers time to adjust their "just-in-time delivery" systems to better accommodate the demand. It will buy us time!!!! If I were printing the flyer, I would say that each family should store a MINIMUM of 2 weeks worth of food, water and meds. JMHO, you know... ------------- I do everything my Rice Crispies tell me to.... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:01pm
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we can always make changes later.... I will post links where people can download a copy after we get Alberts final approval. OK argyll? It was great working with you all on this! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:02pm
| But Legacy, that is the reality-they need that much food and water and they have to take the responsibility for trying. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:03pm
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Legacy,
That is an excellent point. Maybe what we should do is ask Albert what he thinks we should put to copy. Anything is better than nothing. Thanks for your feedback as I really appreciate it. Argyll.
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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:09pm
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No...thank you argyll. It is an outstanding flyer. I just want readers to act on it. Standingfirm, I hear you, and that's why I think we should put a minimum of 2 weeks. People in this forum are prepped from 2 weeks to 2 years, and "How much is enough" seems to be a profoundly personal choice. While you may think that anything less than 6 months is "suicide"(I'm not saying that's what you think, but I know that many do),
others may disagree. I just don't want to scare readers into not prepping at all. Thanks for your feedback! ------------- I do everything my Rice Crispies tell me to.... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:12pm
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I understand where you are coming from...i am not that prepared myself and it is frustrating. If you give people a minimum of 2 weeks that may be all they prepare for. Its a tough dilemma and you bring up a good point. Wouldn't it be great if we could get the US Postal Service to deliver it to every household...a not very realistic dream but what an impact that would make! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:17pm
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Dear Everyone,
It has been honor working with you on this pandemic leaflet project. I do think it could get people moving in that direction -- making plans beforehand for a pandemic. That is the key. We have been told it's going to happen at some point in the future and the time is now to prepare.
This leaflet will help people on a realistic level prepare. It is written by the people for the people so that makes it all the more powerful. I hope we can secure a donation to cover materials and get it distributed. I do think posting it online and forwarding to all email news receipents could be helpful.
It's nothing new as far as it's recommendations go, but it is unique in that it was designed by everyday Americans. Perhaps, this will be the key to getting Americans to listen and respond.
Many Thanks,
Argyll.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:22pm
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Thanks argyll and it really was a pleasure for me too. The brochure printed and in hand really has an impact! It gave me goose bumps.... I agree that this could make a huge impact. Argyll, you had a wonderful, wonderful idea! Thanks again. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 1:43pm
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 2:24pm
| wow. I'm just getting back. I like these ideas. Good job on using PHO instead of AFT. AFT seems to scare people, literally, with the forum colors, h5n1 theme, etc ... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 2:26pm
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Albert,
I put together a mission statement? What do you think?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 2:31pm
| argyll: i just emailed a link to Albert so he can print them out...when printing you may receive a prompt about the border on one, just ignore the warning if you get one. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 2:47pm
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I think the phamlet is wonderful!! Informative without panicing. I have been on the forum for months and did not know about the tent indoors. I will be buying one. I want to copy this and hand it out to all I know. I have feared handing anything out, for fear of it being too frieghtening and alarmist but this is perfect.
As far as stockpiling food for several months, it does not have to be great food, just food, rice, popcorn, beans are very cheap. They store easy, and come in bulk.
Do you think we will get supplies after two months? Do you think we will get more medicine for current conditions? I have no clue and I want to hear peoples thoughts.
Most important, how do I copy this phamplet? I tried to copy paste on here, but it wont let me.
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 2:51pm
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Hi Argyll, I haven't had the chance yet. Can you repost if for me here... Thanks.
I will check back in a little bit.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:22pm
| As soon as Albert gives me the ok I can post the links to the documents for downloading. They are in word .doc format and adobe .pdf format. There is a place on the back for mailing information and they open opposite what you normally would when folded. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:24pm
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Albert,
I came up with the mission statement idea after viewing the Red Cross' statment. Here is what I came up with:
This brochure is supported in part by Pandemichelp.org. A humanitarian forum, Pandemichelp.org's primary mission is to inform and educate all people in order to prepare and respond to pandemic influenza. For more information please visit: http://www.pandemichelp.org - http://www.pandemichelp.org
I used pandemichelp.org because you referenced it yesterday in one of your posts. Sounds like it was a good choice.
I think eveyone did an excellent job on this project. There was a question about how many weeks and/or months of food to recommend. I thought perhaps you might decide this. If you approve of the brochure, could we list it on the front page of the web site as an educational material download? I am sure you would have a gazillion hits. Also, could we send this brochure off to any news media? I was thinking along the lines of the original Nepal PR post. Thanks again! Argyll.
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Posted By: Pegasus
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:38pm
You all have done a fabulous job on this flyer. It was amazing to come on just now and read what has transpired thru the course of the day. My only contribution for consideration would be to rephrase from 'stockpile' to 'stock your home pantry with 8 weeks of....'.
Yes, I am well aware of the importance of doing this but I think the less severe wording makes it sound more like part of a rational preparation plan than a panic hoarding of goods. We all know what we mean and what needs to be done but we need to lead the rest of the unknowing or unwilling in whatever is the nost comfortable manner possible. I would love to say to them... "What the heck are you all thinking about? Get your canned goods and water stocked up now!" but many are totally unaware of what is happening around them - hard as that is to believe. ------------- "We do not know the true value of moments until they have undergone the test of memory." unknown author |
argyll wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:41pm
Congratulations to All. Logged on tonight and what a surprise. Good Job done by a great group of peoplel. You all should be very proud of your work today.
GG
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:51pm
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Pegasus,
Good point. I tend to overword things from time to time. Standingfirm can we change the wording and include Pegasus' phrase?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 3:58pm
| sure, but if its ok I will wait until all the "final" changes are in so I can make them all at once. |
Posted By: KOMET163
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:05pm
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I think we are forgetting someone here, while the information is wonderful, we need to consider the disabled and elderly population. May I propose a change that includes disabled and elderly people.
8. Prepare for disabled or elderly persons who may not be able to care for themselves during a pandemic. Extra supplies may include hearing aids, walkers, wheelchairs, oxygen, scooter batteries, and medical supplies. Making your residence accessible for disabled and elderly family members will insure the safety of disabled or elderly family members.
Thanks
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:11pm
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Komet,
A very good point. Standingfirm maybe we could list something in number 3 or 6. Something along the lines of: Remember to make special preparations ahead of time to care (look after?) for the elderly or those with disabilities.
Feel free to rephrase this. It's just a quick line.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:13pm
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3. Prepare a first aid emergency kit for your family. Include any special medical items ( N95 masks, plastic gloves, hand sanitizer, bleach) in addition to basic first aid items. Prepare for disabled or elderly persons who may not be able to
care for themselves during a pandemic. Extra supplies may include
hearing aids, walkers, wheelchairs, oxygen, scooter batteries, and
medical supplies. Making your residence accessible for disabled and
elderly family members will insure the safety of disabled or elderly
family members.
This could work...Argyll? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:33pm
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Excellent. Very well-written. I like the reference to all of the equipment those with disabilities may need. Thanks again Komet for bringing this to our attention.
As far as I can tell when I look up Preparing for Pandemic Influenza, the main web site for the big three come up. This leaflet is really going to be different and I believe if and when it gets posted on-line, it will generate a lot of traffic. And traffic is just what we need to sound the alarm. This is going to help a lot of people. It's simple and covers all the basic points in preparedness.
We could always design a post-pandemic brochure after a pandemic were to strike, to include things like how to care for the ill and isolation, home schooling, etc. Similar to the seven points here and covering the mains points. I think VTDoc mentioned this idea early in this thread. Anyhow, just thinking ahead ...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:35pm
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Standingfirm,
Can we can add nebulizers to the equipment?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:43pm
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update posted below |
Posted By: lion of judah
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 4:52pm
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Great job I love it. This would be a great thing to copy and leave at the library.
I'm so impressed.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 5:00pm
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<<<<Legacy,
That is an excellent point. Maybe what we should do is ask Albert what he thinks we should put to copy. Anything is better than nothing. Thanks for your feedback as I really appreciate it. Argyll.>>>>
first let me say,,that pamphlet that you guys collaborated on is just awesome!! also,,legacy,i see your point as well. i would like to hear albert's feedback as well on which timetable for food storing is more "public friendly" i agree that they have to be told the cold truth,,which is this could be a LONG amout of time,they need the proper amount of food. however, i know i would have freaked out if someone told me i had to prep for 3 months or longer,
good points all!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 5:05pm
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<<< You all have done a fabulous job on this flyer. It was amazing to come on just now and read what has transpired thru the course of the day. My only contribution for consideration would be to rephrase from 'stockpile' to 'stock your home pantry with 8 weeks of....'. >>>
i am just coming in from out of town,,taking child #2 away to college,,,so ditto the above for me too and yes,,i think if you haven't gotten it set in stone yet,,i think the above wording is much easier to wrap the public's brain around,,then the word "stockpile" which,,i never thought of it before but i think to some may sound extremist.
either way,,,excellent job,,i am almost choked up at what i am seeing. the best in people, caring so much for other people , working together for the greater good
yay we humans! =*)
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Posted By: candice
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 5:26pm
What a great idea as it is not safe for one person to warn everyone but a pamplet that can be left in hosipitals and in your neighbourhood . It should be downloadable so that copies can be made. ------------- If you cant get in the front door try the side door then the back door. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:33pm
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This is a completely wonderful and caring idea, and I am grateful to know people with the quality of character as all involved in this. If I could make a small suggestion about the amount of food, maybe we could say to them 2 weeks is a starting point (that isn't as frightening or even for fixed incomes impossible) and then encourage them to keep storing until they could survive 8 weeks. Something along the line of:
Begin to prepare by collecting 2 weeks worth of non-perishable foods and water, then as you are able to add more until you can see yourselves able to live for 8 weeks on the stored items.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:36pm
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Very nice brochure... Please consider leaving out the word ...visit.... on the same line with the pandemichelp address.
I see the 7 steps are a bit crowded looking on the page, (please give area size the 7 steps are printed on) if it is in an 8 1/2 by 11 page can you use a different font that gives a diff. look? just a suggestion.
The black backgrounds ...rather expensive use of ink...would you like to try using a border surround instead? Just considering cost of ink.
Please tell the size of the brochure unfolded ...is it reg 8 1/2 by 11?
keep up the good work.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:43pm
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ps... I do agree about the food amount... several weeks?
and the amt of water...picture some folks trying to convert those small water bottles into a gallon and mult. by their family... can we figure how many of the small water bottles per wk? they may faint...it's a lot... a week or two of water? Would it take longer than that to get a boil water advisory going? I would hope a few weeks would get the water up and running? We need to ask about that? we should not rush to print?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:45pm
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8-1/2 x 11 and there was more room prior to making wording changes. Now it is getting a bit crowded. Paladino is a great font for legibility and letter recognition and the font size is 12. I can go down to 11 but that is tough on seniors eyes. I cannot see these printed on a standard printer although they printed out fine. It would be more cost effective to print one and then run off copies on a copier, so the amount of black wouldn't matter. Too may borders make moving the eye around a brochure confusing... Initially that was the way the brochure looked and it changed as we progressed throughout the day....good thinking though, thanks Anharra. Argyll, changes???? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:54pm
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Avian flu could hit hard on campuses
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This one is a heartbreaker for me. Those kids are packed in with family a long way off. How can we help them? I am wondering if we can devote a small section of the brochure to college kids...what to tell them or send with them? Please think about it?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 6:56pm
Argyll & Standingfirm: - I think you have done a wonderful job. Also all the ideas coming in are great but there comes a time to go with your wonderful product. I believe the intent was a brochure to give highlights and point people to places to learn more. If we all continue to make changes it will end up a novel in print that no one can read. You guys are all the greatest. Our gene that makes us preppers seems to also make us perfectionists. I say go with what you have - IT'S GREAT!!
GG
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:00pm
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Standingfirm,
Maybe we could the take out the black and border and just have the title. This would be cost effective. Maybe you could use a different font for the title to make it stand out? Or perhaps make it bold?
Your call on the print size. 12 would be good, but 11 might look better. I am hoping most seniors are like my dad and wear glasses! But, it is nice to consider if they can read it.
You've got the copy and it's your call on what looks best. an 8.5 X 11 would be perfect for printing, even if you have to change fonts or go to font size 11. You'll know what looks best once you print it out. Great job! Can't wait to see the changes!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:10pm
| Albert has the links now. I will take out the border and see what it looks like and post it...brb |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:16pm
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update posted below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:21pm
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That looks awesome! Super job Standingfirm!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:22pm
| Less heavy, less ominous... |
Posted By: KOMET163
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 7:55pm
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Thanks standing firm, we can do this the right way
------------- He who laughs last laughs hardest. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 8:08pm
| I think we would need a booklet if we try to cover every possible human scenario out there. Parents need to direct college kids to our site, they could send the phamplet to them. They need to have some supplies in their cars, water, energy bars, perhaps a weapon. They should keep a full tank of gas and refill when it is still three quarters filled, they could buy and carry some gas cans. Use gas efficent cars. I would also check to see if I had any friends whose homes they could join in the state they were living in for school. If colleges were on their toes, they would have a adopt a student program, if my kid goes to school in Arkansas and cant get home, then I would know a prepper to send them to, who may have a kid in NC they could send their kid to me. Everyone needs to brain storm while we still have the time to do so. This phamplet is a fine example of what can be done when people put their minds to it. Again, it is great. |
Posted By: Beemom
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 5:25am
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How can I access the brochure? Can we print it and pass them out? ------------- mc |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 6:08am
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Beemom, we are currently awaiting Alberts approval. This is a AFF project, the advice built upon so many posts. Argyll did a great job in bringing it all together and the posts tweaking it from so many people invaluable...this is exciting! As soon as we receive final approval I will make the final changes and then post the links from my server for downloading. Albert has the links, which will remain the same after finalizing and he can post them too. |
Posted By: roxy
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 6:35am
| hi to all, I think you all did a GREAT job, pat yourselves on the back. I have a question, can we download this ourselves and print out to pass in our areas? also the Red Cross I believe wants people to have 3 gallons of water per day per person, I know thats alot of water to store , for any body. one gallon to wash with, one to cook with, one to drink. but I would be happy if they had one gallon per day, some water is better than none. just a thought,and thanks again for all your hard work. roxy |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 7:46am
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Argyll, mission statement looks good. You guys have done a good job.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 7:51am
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updated belpw |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:15am
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Very impressive!!! Excellent job..... These would have been perfect to set out for our "disaster drill" held here in Michigan last month.. Where should we place these in order to get the best exposure??? SF Cover looks good......Easy on the eyes |
Posted By: VtDoc
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:16am
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The advice to have a gallon of water daily per person is listed twice in item #1.
Would add a statement about cooking. For example, in #1 you could add something like:
If you store foods that need to be cooked, plan for alternative cooking methods, such as fires, charcoal or gas grills, camp stoves, in the event of gaps in electric and natural gas or propane service. Don't forget a non-electric can opener.
Alternatively , this could be covered in item 7.
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Posted By: VtDoc
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:26am
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I like the quotes from Osterholm, etc. I know this can't be a very long document, but I personally think there should be a paragraph about the flu itself, past pandemics, the predictions about possible mutation and pandemic, and a short list of the consequences of a major pandemic (disruptions in utility service, shortages of food/fuel/medicine, possible social disorder, business and school closures, etc.)
If this were about preparation for a hurricane or other natural distaster, we could assume that most people know that a risk exists, and have at least seen what could happen. For a pandemic, we should assume that most people don't know about the nature and magnitude of the predicted risk. I think a short bit of info about this would place things in context as to why there is a need to prep. In fact, this is probably a bigger need than the list itself; people will only act if they know about the risk and believe it really may occur.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:32am
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updated below |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:37am
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there is a place on the brochure that I have reserved for mailing information. If these are handouts there is an entire column open. Could you write something VtDoc? I would need to know what others want to do. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:46am
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Hi Everyone,
Wow! Thanks for all the great work. I just read through the thread and I think you have covered a lot of ground.
One suggestion I have would be to tell people why they need to be prepared. Maybe quote some statistics to move people to action. For example, During a pandemic it is estimated that 25% of the work force may be unable to work due to illness. This would cause an unprecidented disruption in availability of goods and services. Please prepare now to avoid risk exposure during a pandemic.
I don't know, maybe it is obvious to be prepared but I'm trying to remember what actually got me motivated. I think it was Micheal Olsterholm talking about the just in time supply chain.
Whatever we use I think there should be some kind of statement to let people know they can't wait until the last minute. People seem to think they will have time once it gets closer and a pandemic is officially announced. If they truly believe that, they will not prepare now.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 8:49am
| Great idea. Can you write a quick blurb? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 9:16am
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Here is a quote from Olsterholm that we can use.
Michael Osterholm, a member of the Health and Human Services Advisory Council on Public Health Preparedness, says "There may be mandatory and/or voluntary closings of national, state, and even local borders. Be prepared for public panic. “Imagine,” he said, “a 12-18 month global blizzard.”
Osterholm says "Look at the Katrina disaster for things that went awry. Twenty to thirty percent of workers may be out at any time due to illness or other family members being ill. That means that supply chains for money, food, electricity, and other necessities may be slowed or halted entirely. Have a family plan in place for alternatives."
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 9:18am
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Olsterholm's quote reminded me that we may want to say something about having cash on hand for emergencies.
You could include this in #6
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Posted By: VtDoc
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 9:20am
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I'll try to come up with a short introductory/summary paragraph.
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Posted By: AandEmommy
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 9:39am
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Hello, (Long time lurker, first time poster) I recommend mentioning something about the lack of a vaccine at the beggining of a pandemic. Everyone I try to talk to thinks they don't have to worry because "we will have vaccines for that sort of thing." |
Posted By: VtDoc
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 9:52am
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This is what I came up with:
Why Prepare?
History is full of examples of outbreaks of severe infectious diseases. Everyone is familiar with the “Black Death” of the Middle Ages in A severe pandemic of influenza, or any other infection, may result in disruptions in many aspects of daily life. Problems with production and distribution can easily result in shortages of food, medical supplies, fuel and other consumables. Electric power and other utilities may be disrupted. Schools and businesses could close. The healthcare system might be overwhelmed and unable to provide usually expected care. Social disorder may occur. Why Now? Many experts are concerned that we are overdue for an influenza pandemic. They believe that the H5N1 influenza virus (“avian flu” or “bird flu”) poses the greatest risk of a pandemic in decades. This virus has already acquired many properties needed to cause a severe pandemic, and has spread to over 50 countries. Infections have been mainly in birds, but of the over 200 humans known to be infected, over half have died. The virus continues to change and may mutate to a form that is spread easily from person to person. If this occurs, infection could spread throughout the world very quickly. Effective treatments and vaccines may not be available for the first several months of a pandemic. Please share this information with family, friends, and neighbors. Much more information on why and how to prepare is available on the internet at www.pandemichelp.org |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:27am
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This is just what I had in mind for my nieghbors, thank you all for the hard work. The only thing I would change here, and you can take this suggestion or leave it, but the front page (which will determine whether many people even pick up the brochure at all) needs to have some other descriptive info for people who don't understand the meaning of the phrase "Pandemic Influenza". I'm sure we all know that most people posting here are brighter than the average Joe - but this brochure is being made for everyone, including the 'Average Joe'. I promise, Joe does not know what 'pandemic' or 'influenza' is. 'bird flu' is too laughable and uninteresting to some, but is there a descriptive term, or statement, below the main title that could explain it more? For instance, some thing like "How to protect the people you love from killer flu" or something like that. I don't know the wording, maybe somebody can think of a clarifying statement to help the uninformed understand what this is about. I hope the post made sense. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:30am
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:34am
| How about super-flu, we in the USA like everything to be super-sized, and I seem to be getting a better resonse from clerks at pharmacy and grocery store when I explain my large purchases by saying I'm prepping for the super-flu. Uniformed people seem to better respond to this scenerio instead of bird-flu, I still get that deer in head-light stare when I say bird flu ,so I gave it up and have tried super-flu, at least don't get the stare, get some questions though. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:45am
 Awsome! Thanks SF. It looks great.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:48am
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 10:53am
Thanks sf, that helps 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:03am
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try this one for clarity someone please http://home.comcast.net/~pandemichelpdocs/InsideFINAL5.pdf |